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      Re: Set Pieces?
      Reply #23: Nov 13, 2007 09:21:06 pm
      I agree venom-C, it is pretty frustrating really because corner are such a good opportunity to score, I think the delivery is to blame for that no doubt, I also think that Crouch should be closer to the first post..With guy like Hyypia, Crouch and Torres we really have to improve in that sector, I don't know the stats but it must awfully low the numbers of goal scored on corners for us in the last 5 years..
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      Reply #24: Nov 24, 2007 07:52:20 pm
      Today's 1st goal from a free kick.

      Second from a corner.

      Good enough for ya?
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      Reply #25: Nov 24, 2007 08:48:18 pm
      Free kicks have never really been a problem, but corners have, and that scrappy goal from Kuyt doesn't really reassure me that all's ok now in that department TBH.
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      Reply #26: Nov 24, 2007 11:59:08 pm
      True; that was more disgusting defending than a good set piece.
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      Reply #27: Nov 25, 2007 02:28:43 am
      Im sure Dirk will take it anyways. ;)
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      Reply #28: Nov 29, 2007 07:32:12 am
      HAHA its as if rafa saw this thread and made them practice set peices! I couldn't be happier to eat my words.

      2 goals from corners and the penalty came from a freekick as well!
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      Reply #29: Nov 29, 2007 09:44:09 am
      2 goals in 2 games from corners whats going on?
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      Reply #30: Nov 29, 2007 09:49:10 am
      I thought of this thread straight away when Torres put it in.  I always felt as if we would score form a corner last night.
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      Reply #31: Apr 05, 2008 02:50:37 pm
      I think this is our biggest problem. We don't score many from set pieces and we concede most of our goals from set pieces. I really don't know why but all I can spot out is this is true.

      From open player we hardly ever concede, but when are we going to sort out our set piece play? In my opinion it's the most silly way to concede and it's one that bugs me a lot.
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      Reply #32: Apr 05, 2008 02:56:50 pm
      I'm sorry, but no! This is a topic thats come up before and I remember someone came up with the stats to prove we've conceded the least goals from set pieces in the Premiership. Ra Ra, don't just come up with this because we've conceded two goals in the past two games from them, I would say that's more down to the attacking prowess of Arsenal than us being inadequate.
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      Reply #33: Apr 05, 2008 02:59:17 pm
      I'm sorry, but no! This is a topic thats come up before and I remember someone came up with the stats to prove we've conceded the least goals from set pieces in the Premiership. Ra Ra, don't just come up with this because we've conceded two goals in the past two games from them, I would say that's more down to the attacking prowess of Arsenal than us being inadequate.

      I love being accused!

      But no, this is how we mostly concede our goals especially in the big games. What about against Man Utd twice? We are conceding too many goals from set pieces and please don't accuse me of making a post just because of the previous two games, its just not needed!
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      Reply #34: Apr 05, 2008 03:02:28 pm
      Man Utd twice? One of those was a cross from open play, the other was a corner, yes, but I'd love to see the stats on set pieces conceded this season, I'd be willing to bet we aren't doing bad at all.

      Though I do agree maybe we don't score enough from set pieces, I think the last one must have been the pull back to Aurelio vs Bolton, and even that was from the second ball.

      And I'm not accusing you of anything...  ???
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      Reply #35: Apr 05, 2008 03:07:19 pm
      And I'm not accusing you of anything...  ???

      You are, your accusing me of creating this post because of the last two games against Arsenal. Yes compared to the bottom teams we don't concede many set pieces but against the top teams we are always conceding set pieces. And yes a corner is a set piece.

      We don't score enough from them either, and they are very importnant part of the game!
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      Reply #36: Apr 05, 2008 03:29:18 pm
      We dont score enough from them thats true but in terms of conceding i think Skrtel coming into a new system of zonal marking is part of it its normally in and around that position that they get scored and thats not slating skrtel as hes been fantastic but it can be difficult adjusting to that system if you arent used to using it.

      Todays we couldnt stop the delivery was sublime for fabregas but im sure it will be sorted out soon enough. Cant see us conceding many more throughout the rest of the season tbh.
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      Reply #37: Apr 06, 2008 05:46:38 am
      Im going to have to agree with Ra Ra. I stated last night that we look like conceding from set pieces and it happen no more than 30 seconds later. Need to work on it against the other 3. We may not concede against other teams but against the other 3 we do and need to work on defending them. Also our own set pieces need work, Fabio is sh*t and always takes them over Gerrard for some reason.
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      Reply #38: Apr 06, 2008 06:37:21 pm
      Our zonal marking at set pieces in recent games has been terrible - goal against threat almost every time.

      Come on Rafa... Come on Pepe... Como on Skrty... Come on Sami.... Come on Carra

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      Reply #39: Apr 06, 2008 08:01:26 pm
      I don't go much for stats you don't need stats to see when something needs correcting as for set pieces I don't think we do to bad at defending them, the trouble in the last few games has been Pepe's decision making (2 at the Yuks)and one at Arsenal and in those games Pepe played really well but when a goal keeper makes a mistake it's highlighted a thousand fold (unfair) as most of his other work is spot on so lets hope he sorts out his slight problem with crosses (it's a hiccup no more)....
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      Reply #40: Apr 06, 2008 09:21:43 pm

      Yes it is a hiccup that others, including Wenger, will try to repeat against us... for sure.

      Always room for improvement... watch Pepe punch now... no doubt.
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      Reply #41: Apr 07, 2008 04:58:26 am
      Good point bartman I think Pepe has looked very unsecure in high balls and coming out at them. I also have no doubt that the Arse b***ard is building up his game plan towards this given the height up front he has with Adebayor and Bendtner I have confidence Rafa will stop the rot in time.
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      Reply #42: Jun 26, 2008 01:05:27 pm
      HYYPIA TARGETS SET PIECE BOOST
      Paul Hassall 26 June 2008
         Sami Hyypia admits Liverpool will be aiming to improve their defending at set pieces when the new season gets underway in August.
      The Reds defender believes free-kicks and corners can so often prove the difference in matches at the highest level, but rather than over analyse mistakes, he feels that if the players approach it in the right manner they will soon find the solution to their problems.
       
      "It's probably an area we could do better," he told LFC Magazine.
       
      "We probably haven't dealt with some corners or free-kicks into the box as well as we should have during the season.
       
      "I've always thought, however, that if you worry or speak about something that is troubling you, and bring it all up all the time that will only affect your confidence more.
       
      "Everybody knows that on one or two occasions in the past we've had small difficulties in these situations, but if we bring it up every day it becomes more of an issue than it needs to be and that may start to make some players more nervous to face those situations.
       
      "If you say, 'yeah, we've made mistakes' and leave it like that while analysing what we could have done better then all of a sudden nobody feels the need to talk about it all the time and we will soon be confident in those situations again.
       
      "If you approach things properly they will often sort themselves out."
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      Reply #43: Jun 26, 2008 01:06:20 pm
      We need to improve in that aspect of the game. Rafa already spoke to the defenders.

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