West Brom 2:2 Liverpool. In game & post Match discussion.

Joe Gomez one dozy b***ard

He's never good enough for LFC since the first day.  Soft as a tissue and no sense of direction. We can blame the players all day long but we already know they are sh*t but Klopp is fully responsible for putting the three stooges  in the same team abd tge results.

Gomez played badly but we should not write him off. We were doing the same with Trent before the double games with City.

On the other hand, Moreno should be sold!

Tough call from the gaffer can see why he made the subs he did with Tuesday coming up,we were two up and I think any manager in a similar situation would have done exactly the same in my mind.
Come the final whistle on Tuesday night when we are all smiling and hoarse we will look back on this result
And say 'it was a fair trade off'.
Made up mo got his goal along with Danny.
We go again reds.

 

Pretty much,bigger fish to fry,no injuries,Salah goal .Although the extra defender sub nonsense needs to stop.

we nee one win and draw in last 3 games

Yeah and it might come down to the last game v Brighton so we should be ok.

Really really disappointed in that we had top 4 locked up and could focus on Roma but now we are back to worrying when we lead 2-0 in a game, absolutely no need to drop our two full backs today was there

We need 4 points from our last 3 games to secure top 4 for certain on the basis that Chelsea win all their remaining games. Goal difference acts as an extra point for us.

What this result means is that we'll have to start a stronger side than expected against Stoke next week. Unwanted I'm sure on Klopp's part but sadly that's the consequences of drawing 2-2 with this bunch.

Sad thing is, that last substitution by Klopp was so counterproductive. Taking off Gomez or Moreno for TAA or Clyne and leaving Salah on would have ensured security and the flexibility to play whatever team he wanted next week. No way do I think we would have conceded 2 goals if such a change was made.

He's never good enough for LFC since the first day.  Soft as a tissue and no sense of direction. We can blame the players all day long but we already know they are sh*t but Klopp is fully responsible for putting the three stooges  in the same team abd tge results.

Gomez is 20 years old give the kid a break.

He was excellent the first few months we signed him before he did his knee.

He's also not playing in his preferred position.

Bit rash to say he's not good enough for us he's still developing.

Gomez and Moreno were toilet Lovren way too shaky when he came on. That ugly statistic of dropping points after sizable leads is rearing its head again.

We need 4 points from our last 3 games to secure top 4 for certain on the basis that Chelsea win all their remaining games. Goal difference acts as an extra point for us.

What this result means is that we'll have to start a stronger side than expected against Stoke next week. Unwanted I'm sure on Klopp's part but sadly that's the consequences of drawing 2-2 with this bunch.

Sad thing is, that last substitution by Klopp was so counterproductive. Taking off Gomez or Moreno for TAA or Clyne and leaving Salah on would have ensured security and the flexibility to play whatever team he wanted next week. No way do I think we would have conceded 2 goals if such a change was made.

Aye going 3 at the back late on has never worked for us esp when it’s Lovren coming on!

Gomez played badly but we should not write him off. We were doing the same with Trent before the double games with City.

On the other hand, Moreno should be sold!

The backlash on Gomez is pure knee jerk.

Moreno on the other hand has shown nothing since he signed, a truly awful defender, the best thing he did is fast track Robertson into the starting 11.

Just win the home games.

Playing against teams facing relegation at this stage of the season is never that easy mate. We can no longer afford the kind of complacency that just cost us another 2 points.

Aye going 3 at the back late on has never worked for us esp when it’s Lovren coming on!

Harsh on Lovren, he’s been very good lately. I’m no fan of him by any means, but credit where it’s due, he’s been just as solid as Van Dijk so why not put him on to try and secure things?

Probably got to the stage where Gomez should being considered for the CB position otherwise ship him off as he is too costly as a fullback.

Moreno is never going to be a starter so if he can’t contribute coming in when needed then it’s time to call time on his LFC career.

Harsh on Lovren, he’s been very good lately. I’m no fan of him by any means, but credit where it’s due, he’s been just as solid as Van Dijk so why not put him on to try and secure things?

Lovrens error to step back too early for the second goal playing Rondon onside.

The backlash on Gomez is pure knee jerk.

Moreno on the other hand has shown nothing since he signed, a truly awful defender, the best thing he did is fast track Robertson into the starting 11.

It's ridiculous!

Lovrens error to step back too early for the second goal playing Rondon onside.

That’s not the point, what happened when he was on is irrelevant to what I was saying.

That’s not the point, what happened when he was on is irrelevant to what I was saying.

 

Klopp not happy at all in the post match presser.

Lovrens error to step back too early for the second goal playing Rondon onside.
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Virgil wasn't great to be honest for their first goal. Lovren broke the line yes but Firmino did not track the man he was marking

Gomez trying his hardest at the end to pip Moreno as worst player on the park but Alberto had that tied up already.

By far and away the worst performance I have seen by a Liverpool player this season. Not one thing I can say he done right and unbelievably he managed to lose every 50/50 and he went in for a good few. Doesn’t have a football brain whatsoever; commits when he shouldn’t and doesn’t when he should.

Almost felt sorry for him after he conceeded that free kick after getting the piss taken out him again by Phillips. He looked dejected and probably knows he isn’t good enough. Wouldn’t want him as a back up or even 3rd choice - get rid as soon as possible.

Similar to Mignolet at the start of his Liverpool career you tolerated his mistakes in the belief that high standards would eventually come to him. But then over time, tolerance turned to pity and pity eventually turned to anger. Now anger has turned to loathing and that's where I am with Moreno and have been for a while now. Loathing a player on his quality alone is a desperate state of affairs for any supporter. So bad that when you see him sitting on the bench or even taking to the field for 5 minutes at the end of a comfortable 3-0 victory and you think 'f**k off out of here you charlatan'. You should feel sympathy for a player making a fool of himself and generally destroying his career prospects in front of millions of people. You really should. But when it's the same thing, 4 years on, time and time again (and arguably worse than he was when he first walked into the club) there is no reserve of sympathy left.

After 4 years you expect to see improvement or at least an awareness and a tireless work ethic to cover for the lack of skills he'll never have. But there has been no evidence of that. Not a jot. And given the state of affairs where such players are paid millions a year, naturally the supporter has a short fuse and takes a very cynical viewpoint on it all and believes that he hasn't improved because he simply doesn't want to or worse doesn't think he needs to improve - a misplaced arrogance. So naturally we come to the point of intolerance and loathing towards such players. That's the situation with Moreno and it has been for a while. For Mignolet too. It's bad enough seeing these players stealing a living but what's worse is the bad influence they spread across the whole team - such is their appalling levels of "football" they bring out the worst in players alongside them, dragging excellent, hard working players down to their levels. A corrupting influence on the quality and future development of the team. Getting rid of the likes of Moreno ASAP is imperative this summer. Imperative.

Similar to Mignolet at the start of his Liverpool career you tolerated his mistakes in the belief that high standards would eventually come to him. But then over time, tolerance turned to pity and pity eventually turned to anger. Now anger has turned to loathing and that's where I am with Moreno and have been for a while now. Loathing a player on his quality alone is a desperate state of affairs for any supporter. So bad that when you see him sitting on the bench or even taking to the field for 5 minutes at the end of a comfortable 3-0 victory and you think 'f**k off out of here you charlatan'. You should feel sympathy for a player making a fool of himself and generally destroying his career prospects in front of millions of people. You really should. But when it's the same thing, 4 years on, time and time again (and arguably worse than he was when he first walked into the club) there is no reserve of sympathy left.

After 4 years you expect to see improvement or at least an awareness and a tireless work ethic to cover for the lack of skills he'll never have. But there has been no evidence of that. Not a jot. And given the state of affairs where such players are paid millions a year, naturally the supporter has a short fuse and takes a very cynical viewpoint on it all and believes that he hasn't improved because he simply doesn't want to or worse doesn't think he needs to improve - a misplaced arrogance. So naturally we come to the point of intolerance and loathing towards such players. That's the situation with Moreno and it has been for a while. For Mignolet too. It's bad enough seeing these players stealing a living but what's worse is the bad influence they spread across the whole team - such is their appalling levels of "football" they bring out the worst in players alongside them, dragging excellent, hard working players down to their levels. A corrupting influence on the quality and future development of the team. Getting rid of the likes of Moreno ASAP is imperative this summer. Imperative.

Can only think he is being played with a view to selling, his contribution is F***ing woeful.
One thing's for sure it won't be a quick sale.

Similar to Mignolet at the start of his Liverpool career you tolerated his mistakes in the belief that high standards would eventually come to him. But then over time, tolerance turned to pity and pity eventually turned to anger. Now anger has turned to loathing and that's where I am with Moreno and have been for a while now. Loathing a player on his quality alone is a desperate state of affairs for any supporter. So bad that when you see him sitting on the bench or even taking to the field for 5 minutes at the end of a comfortable 3-0 victory and you think 'f**k off out of here you charlatan'. You should feel sympathy for a player making a fool of himself and generally destroying his career prospects in front of millions of people. You really should. But when it's the same thing, 4 years on, time and time again (and arguably worse than he was when he first walked into the club) there is no reserve of sympathy left.

After 4 years you expect to see improvement or at least an awareness and a tireless work ethic to cover for the lack of skills he'll never have. But there has been no evidence of that. Not a jot. And given the state of affairs where such players are paid millions a year, naturally the supporter has a short fuse and takes a very cynical viewpoint on it all and believes that he hasn't improved because he simply doesn't want to or worse doesn't think he needs to improve - a misplaced arrogance. So naturally we come to the point of intolerance and loathing towards such players. That's the situation with Moreno and it has been for a while. For Mignolet too. It's bad enough seeing these players stealing a living but what's worse is the bad influence they spread across the whole team - such is their appalling levels of "football" they bring out the worst in players alongside them, dragging excellent, hard working players down to their levels. A corrupting influence on the quality and future development of the team. Getting rid of the likes of Moreno ASAP is imperative this summer. Imperative.

£40,000 a week paid to Moreno.

As you say .... stealing a living .... just like Sturridge. He's a pro skiver ...he's on £120,000 a week.

Can only think he is being played with a view to selling, his contribution is f**king woeful.
One thing's for sure it won't be a quick sale.

Yeah hopefully they have figured by now that the more he plays the quicker his value will drop. Ironically he has contributed more to Sevilla than to us the 4 years he's been here.