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      Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST

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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #23: May 07, 2018 01:22:25 am
      Hopefully Ronaldo has trouble recovering from that knock he's picked up. If not, I'm sure he wont be 100% going into the final and it's nothing a crunching challenge won't aggravate. The only reason they are in the final is because of him, he's dragged them over the line on so many occasions this season.

      we won the man city & Roma ties at anfield, we won't face real at anfield.

      So? We also beat City away and in all honesty, should have done Roma too if the officials were actually capable of giving us penalties.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #24: May 07, 2018 01:26:33 am
      Hopefully Ronaldo has trouble recovering from that knock he's picked up. If not, I'm sure he wont be 100% going into the final and it's nothing a crunching challenge won't aggravate. The only reason they are in the final is because of him, he's dragged them over the line on so many occasions this season.

      So? We also beat City away and in all honesty, should have done Roma too if the officials were actually capable of giving us penalties.

      Yep. Salah has been amazing for us, but he isn’t the whole team. Ronaldo literally is winning them games. If he isn’t healthy that only leaves Benzema to be their attacking threat. And with a healthy and rested squad having two weeks to prepare I see us putting some balls into the back of that net. They are gonna need him at 💯 to win
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #25: May 07, 2018 01:37:18 am
      Yep. Salah has been amazing for us, but he isn’t the whole team. Ronaldo literally is winning them games. If he isn’t healthy that only leaves Benzema to be their attacking threat. And with a healthy and rested squad having two weeks to prepare I see us putting some balls into the back of that net. They are gonna need him at 💯 to win

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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #26: May 07, 2018 02:15:09 am
      Reasons To Be Cheerful   Part 6


      Lucky or just savvy?

      Real Madrid have reached a third consecutive Champions League final - but only just, after they clung on against Bayern Munich.

      Zinedine Zidane's side drew 2-2 at the Bernabeu, winning 4-3 on aggregate, but would have gone out on away goals had they conceded one more to the German club.

      They "relied on luck" according to former Chelsea and England midfielder Frank Lampard, while BBC Radio 5 live summariser Chris Waddle questioned Zidane's tactics.

      Zidane argued that the Champions League was "in the DNA of the club", adding: "We never stop fighting up to the very last minute, just as the Bayern players did tonight."

      So are Real into the final through good fortune, or are they just too good in Europe?

      There were certainly fortuitous moments for Real. Bayern goalkeeper Sven Ulreich's mistake gifted Karim Benzema a goal just moments into the second half before Corentin Tolisso and Thomas Muller's efforts were well saved by Keylor Navas.

      Mats Hummels also headed wide and Robert Lewandowski missed a number of key chances as Bayern recorded 22 shots on goal, including 10 on target throughout the game.

      Real Madrid had to make seven blocks, had only had 40% of the overall possession and made more than 150 fewer passes than their opponents - but it was still enough to reach their record-breaking 16th European Cup final.

      Cristiano Ronaldo had just 34 touches - fewer than any other player who started the game

      In contrast, Real produced two goals from three shots on target, compared with Bayern's 10 efforts on goal.

      Former England international Waddle said afterwards if you "give Real chances, they will take them", but criticised some of their key players and questioned Zidane's tactics for the semi-final.

      "Cristiano Ronaldo didn't come to life, Benzema has got more to offer but Gareth Bale might play in the final," said Waddle.

      "Real Madrid have got quality players but I just think Zidane got the balance wrong tonight. Luka Modric was at right-back at times. I didn't get that.

      "The one thing is, they haven't played well but they have still managed to score four goals over the two legs."

      But former Chelsea midfielder Lampard said Real Madrid were "at a lower level" this year.

      "It is not the Real Madrid of the last few years," Lampard told BT Sport. "I wonder whether they can do it again."

      Real Madrid did not shine in the group stage and came through as runners-up, taking just one point from Mauricio Pochettino's Tottenham, who topped the group.

      But the Spanish side overcame Cyprian opponents Apoel Nicosia and German side Borussia Dortmund.

      Things got tougher in the knockout stages, coming up against three reigning league champions en route to the final.

      Real Madrid won both legs against French champions Paris St-Germain - picking up a 5-2 aggregate win - and set up a tie with Italian league leaders Juventus.

      Ronaldo's 97th-minute penalty was needed to prevent Juve recording a remarkable comeback at the Bernabeu before Real Madrid's patchy display saw them survive against Bayern Munich in the semi-final.

      Zidane said it was "nicer" to reach the final through "suffering" after riding their luck on a number of occasions.

      "It's not great for your heart though," he added.

      Real Madrid won La Liga last season but have struggled this term - they are 15 points behind Barcelona, who were crowned champions on Sunday, and they were also knocked out of the Spanish Cup to Leganes in January.

      It could have been worse - they were 19 points off Barca and actually closer to the relegation zone than the league leaders near the start of 2018. Their form has picked up since then, and they have lost only once in La Liga since mid-January.

      Had Real been knocked out of the Champions League before Christmas, Zidane might already have been looking for a new job by that stage.

      But they seem to excel in the Champions League. This season's will be their fourth final out of five (they won the other three), but in that same period they have won just one Spanish title, last season's, and one Copa del Rey.

      Despite their Champions League success, their statistics in the tournament have been remarkably similar to their league games - although their European games have been against top sides for the most part.
         
      Zidane has been in charge for two and a half years and is yet to be knocked out of the Champions League.

      His only four defeats in the competition, two of which have been this season, have been first or second legs (when they have progressed anyway) or in the group stage.

      And two of their current team are in the top five Champions League scorers of all time...

      'Never seen a more undeserving team go through' - How BBC Sport readers reacted on social media

      PJ: "Keylor Navas made some really big and important saves in this game to secure the win for Madrid tonight it must be said!"

      Stu: "Real Madrid have got to be the luckiest team ever to reach a Champions League final."

      Hailu: "The resilience of this Real Madrid team is quite remarkable. Any other team would lose to Bayern tonight. Another final and probably last one for Zidane and Cristiano Ronaldo in Real's shirt."

      Kris: "Bayern made two defensive mistakes and Real scored due to each of them over the tie, whereas Real didn't make any, that's why they're in the final."

      Chuks: "Real have limped into the final and you can never write them off."

      Helles Mammut: "Such riches of attacking talent, but it was the goalkeepers who made the ultimate difference."

      Anon: "I've never seen a more undeserving team go through the Champions League final. Real Madrid were terrible in both legs."



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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #27: May 07, 2018 02:18:32 am

      Hopefully Ronaldo has trouble recovering from that knock he's picked up.

      *If not, I'm sure he wont be 100% going into the final and it's nothing a crunching challenge won't aggravate.

      The only reason they are in the final is because of him, he's dragged them over the line on so many occasions this season.


      *   ;D   

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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #28: May 07, 2018 02:52:38 am

      thanks dawg. I have been reading the thoughts on here but just haven’t had time to post any of mine. In all honesty consider yourselves lucky. I need to be more active on here though. If we win the CL than I’ll never shut up.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #29: May 07, 2018 10:39:19 am
      its going to feel like an age before this comes around and then it will be over in a flash.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #30: May 07, 2018 01:24:37 pm
      Oh good, the ref appointed for this game is Milorad Mazic. For those of you that don’t recognise him, he was voted as the worst ref at World Cup 2014. He’s been involved in our games before, gave the Mancs a penalty against us in the Europa.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #31: May 07, 2018 02:51:57 pm
      Oh good, the ref appointed for this game is Milorad Mazic. For those of you that don’t recognise him, he was voted as the worst ref at World Cup 2014. He’s been involved in our games before, gave the Mancs a penalty against us in the Europa.

      I suppose he could be bad for both teams.

      I guess there was a match between Germany and Portugal that put him in the spotlight then. Here is some video.

      A penalty award at 1:10, a sending off at 3:00 and a penalty non-award at around 5:00 is what got the Portugese manager upset.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOI_6dpGXsw

      I don't know how much these decisions stand out compared to others. It does make you wonder how these referee evaluation systems work. I see he'll be one of the World Cup referees this summer as well.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #32: May 07, 2018 03:03:11 pm
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78ozlGCCMlk

      Oh, found this one from Iran vs. Argentina as well. This is a pretty bad non-call.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #33: May 07, 2018 05:30:01 pm
      1981:
      1. Prince of England got married
      2. Liverpool won the Champions League
      3. The pope died

      2005:
      1. Prince of England got married
      2. Liverpool won the Champions League
      3. The pope died

      2018:
      1. Prince of England is getting married
      2. Liverpool is going to win the Champions League
      3. The pope is...
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #34: May 07, 2018 07:40:29 pm
      1981:
      1. Prince of England got married
      2. Liverpool won the Champions League
      3. The pope died

      2005:
      1. Prince of England got married
      2. Liverpool won the Champions League
      3. The pope died

      2018:
      1. Prince of England is getting married
      2. Liverpool is going to win the Champions League
      3. The pope is...

      Joking aside Ruth, but Pope Benedict, who gave up the papal throne a while back, is seriously ill at the moment 😳
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #35: May 07, 2018 08:59:25 pm
      1981:
      1. Prince of England got married
      2. Liverpool won the Champions League
      3. The pope died

      2005:
      1. Prince of England got married
      2. Liverpool won the Champions League
      3. The pope died

      2018:
      1. Prince of England is getting married
      2. Liverpool is going to win the Champions League
      3. The pope is...

      Replace #3 with "the oldest living human being at that time, died." (as one comedian put it - it seems like those achieving that status are cursed.

      More seriously, this time has shown it has the ability to win the final. In 19 daysllllllllll we'll know.

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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #36: May 07, 2018 09:00:50 pm
      Joking aside Ruth, but Pope Benedict, who gave up the papal throne a while back, is seriously ill at the moment 😳

      Does the burnley keeper pope count, could have an ahem, unfortunate accident
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #37: May 07, 2018 09:03:51 pm
      Hope Ronaldo makes it. Want us to best their best 11. No excuses to detract from.a victory
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #38: May 07, 2018 09:07:32 pm
      Oh good, the ref appointed for this game is Milorad Mazic. For those of you that don’t recognise him, he was voted as the worst ref at World Cup 2014. He’s been involved in our games before, gave the Mancs a penalty against us in the Europa.

      99% of the refs in football are F***ing useless anyway, no shock that UEFA are picking the worst of a bad bunch. Then again it could be Craig Pawson...
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #39: May 07, 2018 09:28:42 pm
      I expect us to put out our starting X1 for the CL final against Brighton and if they don't absolutely destroy them I will be a bit concerned that we have run out of steam .
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #40: May 07, 2018 09:55:06 pm
      I know it's Tottenham but watch this for two minutes (with the sound down) and just see how, with Real Madrid's back three the spuds exploited how both their full backs do go missing.
      youtu.be/Ci-WQgun7xw
      If, and it's a big If, they set up the same way we can beat these and score a few goals in the process, no sweat.
      That Ramos is a thug and a pansy and if he is left exposed he will either hack you down or just bottle it.
      Kroos and Markovic close together are brilliant so we need to split them apart so someone (Winjaldum? Henderson?) needs to be constantly on their case.
      Giroud's goal yesterday was a simple high cross which could've and should've been dealt with but because VVD and Lovren play as a back two Giroud got in between them and made it look easy.
      That's the pefect kind of cross and header Ronaldo thrives on so we need to be super ready for that kind of delivery in from the likes of Marcelo and co.

      It's a couple of weeks off yet but It will be upon us in the blink of an eye and as someones said earlier the best pick me up tonic would be to destroy Brighton this weekend then let Jürgen work on his master plan.



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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #41: May 07, 2018 11:49:44 pm
      Hope Ronaldo makes it. Want us to best their best 11. No excuses to detract from.a victory

      Read that he only has a sprained ankle, so he’ll be available for the final.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #42: May 07, 2018 11:53:51 pm
      Hopefully Ronaldo has trouble recovering from that knock he's picked up. If not, I'm sure he wont be 100% going into the final and it's nothing a crunching challenge won't aggravate. The only reason they are in the final is because of him, he's dragged them over the line on so many occasions this season.

      So? We also beat City away and in all honesty, should have done Roma too if the officials were actually capable of giving us penalties.
      Rather have him on the field and we shut him out...

      Remember Portugal played better and won the Euros without him on the pitch...
      Can be a great player, but as ever thing seem to go through him, when he has a bad game so does Real
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #43: May 07, 2018 11:56:20 pm
      1981:
      1. Prince of England got married
      2. Liverpool won the Champions League
      3. The pope died

      2005:
      1. Prince of England got married
      2. Liverpool won the Champions League
      3. The pope died

      2018:
      1. Prince of England is getting married
      2. Liverpool is going to win the Champions League
      3. The pope is...

      Quick, somebody whack the Pope :o
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #44: May 08, 2018 12:09:39 am
      Remember Portugal played better and won the Euros without him on the pitch...

      Not really, France on the whole were the much better team but were wasteful, they had far more efforts at goal and more of the ball, it's only because of an extra time long range strike that Portugal won, they'd have been going through Ronaldo more but they'd have still been better off with him on the pitch. The fact you think Madrid could well be better off without him playing the final is strange given how average they have been and how he has carried them through as per...oh and also the fact that the Munich keeper looks as though he was paid off too.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Real Madrid v Liverpool (Champions League) Sat 26 May 2018 19:45 BST
      Reply #45: May 08, 2018 04:03:05 am
      Oh good, the ref appointed for this game is Milorad Mazic. For those of you that don’t recognise him, he was voted as the worst ref at World Cup 2014. He’s been involved in our games before, gave the Mancs a penalty against us in the Europa.

      If I recall, it was the right call though?

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