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      Nabil Fekir (Lyon)

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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #874: Jul 10, 2018 10:38:05 pm
      Think it's more to do with not suiting their system maybe, bit like Dembele. Playing an attack of Griezemann, Giroud and Mbappe (none of which really track back) and then 2 defensive midfielders with Pogba and Kante, guess Matuidi is quite defensive too. But, by the looks of it the midfield 3 are there to first and foremost provide protection to the defence, which doesn't leave any room in the team for the likes of Fekir, Dembele and Tolisso.

      Yea, they look fairly well balanced, good on the ball, and work hard to get it back.
      Pity, would've been nice to get a better look at him.
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      Reply #875: Jul 10, 2018 10:48:38 pm
      Yea, they look fairly well balanced, good on the ball, and work hard to get it back.
      Pity, would've been nice to get a better look at him.

      On the plus side, there's not a chance his value has gone up, which is something Aulas was hoping for.
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #876: Jul 10, 2018 10:55:47 pm
      Would offer £40 million and tell them to do one if they don't accept.
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #877: Jul 10, 2018 11:42:44 pm

      I can kick you, just stand still.  :lmao: :lmao:
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #878: Jul 11, 2018 01:06:57 am
      So if we had had the pulling power    Mr Mahrez may have come to us today .
      He didn't but Fekir is on par.

      Still hope we can turn the gas up on the deal.
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #879: Jul 11, 2018 03:52:46 am
      I reckon if this deal falls through and Dyabla is a pipe dream, we throw the cash we would have spent at Christian Eriksen from Spurs. Think he would be brilliant in our squad. Wanted him before those Cu*ts got him.

      I want a free kick specialist in our squad.

      Even though he plays on the right for Spurs he would be perfect in the 10 for us as well.

      I've never understood why we've never gone in for any Tottenham players. We dwarf them as a club and surely whatever they offer to players we can match or even better it ?

      It's the same with Arsenal in recent seasons too. We should be able to take any players off their books if we wanted (I'm not sure they have anyone I'd want at the moment though).

      We don't do business with united. We can't compete with city or Chelsea financially but there's no reason why we can't go in and take any Spurs or Arsenal player other than perhaps Kane who will be 200m+ now.

      Erik is a good shout. Bid 70m see what happens.
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #880: Jul 11, 2018 04:32:06 am
      Fekir is talented; no question.

      However I have a couple of concerns about him...
      - he always takes multiple touches of the ball; this can be a worry given that our counter attacking play relies on speed and quick execution of passes
      - he looks to be lacking pace; although he is agile and possess good initial acceleration, he seems to lack speed
      - weak right knee... do we need one more injury prone player...?

      The above are my observations and thoughts... anyone else agree?
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #881: Jul 11, 2018 07:19:50 am
      Fekir is talented; no question.

      However I have a couple of concerns about him...
      - he always takes multiple touches of the ball; this can be a worry given that our counter attacking play relies on speed and quick execution of passes
      - he looks to be lacking pace; although he is agile and possess good initial acceleration, he seems to lack speed
      - weak right knee... do we need one more injury prone player...?

      The above are my observations and thoughts... anyone else agree?

      My only real concern is the knee. Except from our wingers, we don't really need top class speed, just solid acceleration and agility.

      As for the rest of his play, you have to think of which games we'll be likely to use a #10 style player. It actually won't be against the really top teams. Against those teams where we'll be counter pressing, we're actually better suited to have players like Ox in (to join Keita and Fabinho). Hard working explosive players more so than ultra creative. Let the system win us the game, as it did against Man City.

      But for games where teams sit back (and that probably includes games like Man Utd at Anfield), it is then that we'll need the creative #10. It is then where our system gets bogged down (or our Ferrari gets stuck in traffic). We then need a locksmith and, even though there may be limited space, he'll still have the time to take multiple touches as we're not being pressed.

      That's not always a bad thing. I've often seen players like Coutinho and Hazard take those multiple touches to lure people in and then go past. Actually our new boy Keita often takes what seems to be a particularly lazy touch which tempts opponents to rush in and claim, but he's too quick and agile, and he proceeds to get to the ball first and expose the gap in behind.

      So yeah, personally, Fekir is one of the few players we've been linked with that I'd be keen to sign. But yeah, health is a concern, and if it wasn't just Aulas being a pr**k, then that is the reason we haven't got him yet.
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #882: Jul 11, 2018 02:55:13 pm
      Not from the brightest of sources; this from a Q&A with RMC

      Nabil Fékir seemed set to sign for Liverpool, but the transfer eventually failed to materialise, what circumstances led to this turnaround?

      Again, this one is a very particular case. According to what I’ve been told, Fékir had had an agreement with Liverpool for a long time now, and it’s the club where he wanted to be playing next year. Everything had been sorted but the minor details – in transfers, the fee is often very quickly sorted out, but the small clauses take up a lot of time to negotiate, the ones that involve an amount being paid based on appearances for the national team, for example. All of that was sorted towards the end, right before he left for Russia.

      Then the Liverpool medical team came to Clairefontaine to conduct the medical, and it’s at that point that the sources diverge. We know that Liverpool at that point stopped discussing the transfer, even though up until that point they had been quite open about it. Some sources say that the medical had not gone well because of his knee issues, although that would surprise me; I don’t see why he can go play a World Cup with a bad knee but not for Liverpool next season. Others say that it’s because either his agent or Jean-Michel Aulas asked for more money towards the end. It’s hard to know who’s telling the truth.

      What I’m sure of, is that that the saga isn’t over. Liverpool will come back for Fékir at the end of the World Cup because he’s a player that Klopp’s been interested in for a while. I don’t what the sticking point was, whether it was a financial or medical problem, but if it had been medical, Liverpool would have stopped the transfer right there and then, but at the moment negotiations seem to be going on. There’s a possibility that they’re using his knee as a means of paying less, but in the end, they have the money and they know he wants to come.
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #883: Jul 11, 2018 10:55:57 pm
      Now Maddock is saying Fekir wants to come to LFC and the Aulus promised him to join LFC.

      LFC won't return if any deal remains on the terms originally agreed (53m), but they would listen if Lyon decides to restructure the terms of their agreement (so it doesn't mean there is a reduction in the fee)
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #884: Jul 11, 2018 10:59:17 pm
      Now Maddock is saying Fekir wants to come to LFC and the Aulus promised him to join LFC.

      LFC won't return if any deal remains on the terms originally agreed (53m), but they would listen if Lyon decides to restructure the terms of their agreement (so it doesn't mean there is a reduction in the fee)

      https://twitter.com/MaddockMirror/status/1017160947591413761

      Interesting, so maybe he did pass the medical after all.
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #885: Jul 11, 2018 11:40:14 pm

      and Aulus is just being a d*ck about it?
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #886: Jul 11, 2018 11:53:32 pm
      Excellent news.



      Mane    Firmino      Salah

            Keita         Fekir
       
                   Fabinho
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #887: Jul 11, 2018 11:56:41 pm
      Excellent news.



      Mane    Firmino      Salah

            Keita         Fekir
       
                   Fabinho

      sounds good to me!
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #888: Jul 12, 2018 12:06:31 am
      So basically the British Media are saying that there was problem with the medical.
      And the French are still saying that, Liverpool tried to renegotiate after the deal was done.

      I think the truth is somewhere between.
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #889: Jul 12, 2018 12:07:19 am
      Think we may all need a medical if this drags on any longer
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #890: Jul 12, 2018 02:40:30 am
      Think we may all need a medical if this drags on any longer

      ;D.

      So seriously, would a restructured deal with the same fee end up being something like:

      We pay X amount up front.
      We pay X amount after season one if he plays in Y amount of games.
      We pay X amount after season two if he  plays in Z amount of games
      and so on?

      I can't believe we would agree a deal and then for no reason just say, let's pay less. I know some people stereotype FSG, but you have to give them credit for having enough intelligence to know it would only be foolish, rather than thrifty, to do business like that.

      The other possibility I see from this report is all the publicity appears to be from the French side, which makes me think it's at least a possibility that we have genuinely dropped all interest in the player (because of the medical) and Lyon are just trying a Hail Mary to get something out of their damaged goods.

      As always, I should just stay offline until Aug. 12 but I've logged on tonight and seen this and now I'm going to have trouble sleeping again. Arghhhh!
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #891: Jul 12, 2018 02:53:31 am
      Game over mate. LFC would of moved quicker if we really wanted him.
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #892: Jul 12, 2018 03:06:57 am
      Game over mate. LFC would of moved quicker if we really wanted him.

      If the selling club says talks are over what are they supposed to do, kidnap him?
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      Reply #893: Jul 12, 2018 05:10:05 am
      If the selling club says talks are over what are they supposed to do, kidnap him?


      Talks aren't over by a long shot...they paused with the WC...they will pick up again after Sat.

      This was never going to be a rush because the player himself wasn't going to be available for most of pre-season anyway so they've always had time.
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #894: Jul 12, 2018 09:02:06 am
      All the broadsheets reporting that talks on this one will be reopened post World Cup. Am pretty excited to see if they can resurrect the deal, most articles suggest it's about resctructuring the payments rather than adjusting the actual fee so fingers crossed they can work something out. From what I've watched he seems like a very talented player (although I'd love Dybala! Not gonna happen).
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #895: Jul 12, 2018 09:52:58 am
      Why do we have to wait until after the World Cup? Presumably everything remains the same with the player and he’s done his media stuff.
      Surely if it’s just restructuring a deal with Lyon then that can be done whilst the World Cup is still going on?
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      Re: Nabil Fekir (Lyon)
      Reply #896: Jul 12, 2018 10:07:21 am
      Would MUCH prefer Dybala but as that is unlikely to happen I don't mind taking a punt on Fekir.

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