Emre Can, now a free agent (to Juventus)

Come on, we at least need a transfer thread.

Apparently Juventus are interested in signing Can on a free,   

Just to tick the boxes, here's the link. http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12961/11390027/juventus-confident-of-signing-emre-can-from-liverpool-this-week

If anyone can Juve can

Not really fussed about him to be honest.

He had a chance to be part of what's shaping to be a special squad but for some reason doesn't want to.

The slower pace in Italy will suit his football more anyway. 

This could be the last thread to put your can puns in...

I'm thinking with the way things were developing, he maybe saw that he wouldn't get too much game time. The stronger the players we targeted, perhaps the more he thought he'd be on the bench more often than not. Probably got more chance of game time at Juventus.
Can think of no other reason why anyone would not want to be part of this revolution.

Only my opinion of course.

I'm thinking with the way things were developing, he maybe saw that he wouldn't get too much game time. The stronger the players we targeted, perhaps the more he thought he'd be on the bench more often than not. Probably got more chance of game time at Juventus.
Can think of no other reason why anyone would not want to be part of this revolution.

Only my opinion of course.

I think this is at least a big part of his thinking.

He did make some comments in an article on discrimination/bigotry that made it seem like he is not enamored with life in UK.

I think this is at least a big part of his thinking.

He did make some comments in an article on discrimination/bigotry that made it seem like he is not enamored with life in UK.

And Italy is much better regarding racism/ bigotry?

I'm thinking with the way things were developing, he maybe saw that he wouldn't get too much game time. The stronger the players we targeted, perhaps the more he thought he'd be on the bench more often than not. Probably got more chance of game time at Juventus.
Can think of no other reason why anyone would not want to be part of this revolution.

Only my opinion of course.

Klopp plays him at CDM most of the time. If Fabinho performs, he'll be the starting guy in that position and Can will rotate with him and two CM spots that are going to be disputed by Ox, Keita and potentially Fekir. Lots of competition.

Keita is hopefully going to cement his position as a starting guy really quickly. Ox IMO has qualities that Can do not have like speed and what seems to be an improving rocket right foot.

All in all, I think him worrying for his playing time is justified, but when you think of it, nobody plays as many games as a PL club in the CL. The amount of games is insane and injuries are too. Add to this the fact that we play a brand of football that requires a lot of rotation and rest because of the running and constant pressing. If he stays he would clearly have fewer minutes than this season, but he would still have a decent amount and a chance to fight for a spot.

I'm thinking maybe the wage Juventus can offer his also probably higher than what we can afford to give him.

This could've gone into the player thread but nevertheless, not really fussed.. we already have a better player. There were reports that he saw himself as #6 but Jürgen saw him as #8 for a couple of reasons.

But we have a superior #6 now, kinda letting him know who is the boss!

Emre, thanks for the Watford goal and a few other winners. Good luck at Juve and hope you become what you think you are!

Wanted to upgrade on Can for a very long time. Very average on the ball and his energy and work rate (along with our other midfielders) isn't enough to seriously challenge for honours.

His best performances came from when we briefly played a back three and Can slotted in at rcb. He was immense then but as a midfielder he is basic to say the least. I think that if he has a long and lengthy career at juve then he will eventually become a full back or a right wing back. He isn't good enough to play in midfield at that level. My gut feeling says he will flop at juve and return to Leverkusen or a club similar stature where he is the big fish in a small pond.

Good luck to him. He's no loss to us. We've got Fabinho and Keita who are both better footballers and who are more likely to take us to the next level.

Wanted to upgrade on Can for a very long time. Very average on the ball and his energy and work rate (along with our other midfielders) isn't enough to seriously challenge for honours.

His best performances came from when we briefly played a back three and Can slotted in at rcb. He was immense then but as a midfielder he is basic to say the least. I think that if he has a long and lengthy career at juve then he will eventually become a full back or a right wing back. He isn't good enough to play in midfield at that level. My gut feeling says he will flop at juve and return to Leverkusen or a club similar stature where he is the big fish in a small pond.

Good luck to him. He's no loss to us. We've got Fabinho and Keita who are both better footballers and who are more likely to take us to the next level.

Far better option than Henderson and Wijnaldum the Italian league will suit him think he has attributes to become a very good player

Far better option than Henderson and Wijnaldum the Italian league will suit him think he has attributes to become a very good player

Agree on Henderson. Disagree on Wijnaldum. Wijnaldum is inconsistent but when he turns up he is head and shoulders above can.

Interesting that you say 'become' a very good player though, which suggests you don't think he is currently?

Can will never be an elite player. Not as a centre midfielder anyway. He isn't good enough on the ball.

Agree on Henderson. Disagree on Wijnaldum. Wijnaldum is inconsistent but when he turns up he is head and shoulders above can.

Interesting that you say 'become' a very good player though, which suggests you don't think he is currently?

Can will never be an elite player. Not as a centre midfielder anyway. He isn't good enough on the ball.

I'm afraid Wijnaldum does not show up enough and against deep lying teams he is a hindrance more than a threat. In regards to Can I think he is a good player and could become very good there is a difference like you say needs to improve his passing but sure that will come

I'm afraid Wijnaldum does not show up enough and against deep lying teams he is a hindrance more than a threat. In regards to Can I think he is a good player and could become very good there is a difference like you say needs to improve his passing but sure that will come

So has Can been turning up for us on a regular basis then, and you still think he is good, I'm quite baffled now!

He is bang average and I'm bemused why Juventus want him although the slower Italian league will probably suit him better than the Prem did.

As we don’t miss Couts, I’m sure we won’t miss Can.
Bang average, with a motm performance possibly twice a season.

As we don’t miss Couts, I’m sure we won’t miss Can.
Bang average, with a motm performance possibly twice a season.

I agree. He could pull out the odd excellent performance here and there but not enough to excuse some truly dreadful displays he's been culpable of. That awful 2-2 draw with Moyes's Sunderland in New Year 2017 was a perfect example - I remember being absolutely fuming with his display where he gave away needless free kicks all over and misplaced countless balls out for corners and throw ins under no pressure whatsoever that helped culminate in them scoring two goals. Genuinely one of the worst individual midfield displays for Liverpool I've ever seen.

I'm afraid Wijnaldum does not show up enough and against deep lying teams he is a hindrance more than a threat. In regards to Can I think he is a good player and could become very good there is a difference like you say needs to improve his passing but sure that will come

Wijnaldum is too inconsistent to be in our 11 now I agree. I feel like he's had his chance but he has gone missing far too often.  That said, he is a very good pass and move footballer and he has a football brain on him. Technically, he is far better than Emre Can and if I had to choose between the pair of them to be in our squad then it'd be Gini all day.

We will have to wait and see what happens with Can but as I say, I predict he won't last very long as a central midfielder for another European giant. He just isn't good enough and we should have been looking to upgrade on him even if he stayed.

In regards to Can I think he is a good player and could become very good there is a difference like you say needs to improve his passing but sure that will come

At getting on for 25, his passing should be at a much better level than what it is now.

At getting on for 25, his passing should be at a much better level than what it is now.

He doesn't read the game well enough for a CM, he turns like a Panzer, and his passing is average at best.  He also gets caught dawdling on the ball, frequently miscontrols passes, and gives away too many free kicks.  He is capable of producing some of the most amazing moments you'll ever see, but those infrequent moments of genius aren't enough to make up for his inconsistency....

Bye 

At this stage I'd rather he just F**k off so its over and done with. If he doesn't want to be here, make room for someone who does.

And Italy is much better regarding racism/ bigotry?

And the Mafia.

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1005117247470391301?s=19

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1005117247470391301?s=19

Right decision to get both out but it's poor that they're leaving for nothing.

Could have got a couple of mil for flanno and we should have been selling Can for 20-25m

Can't believe he still hasn't signed.

Imagine the fury on here if we took that long to sign up a free transfer.

Can't believe he still hasn't signed.

Imagine the fury on here if we took that long to sign up a free transfer.

Exactly. He ain't in Germany's world cup squad. There's nothing to strengthen his bargaining power for. Signing for a another club that does not have our stature and global following.

It would be funny if no one signs him and he ends up in Besiktas or something with half the wages he was making here.

Free agent??
Feel free to F**k off when ever you like bollox.

Beppe Marotta on Emre Can: ‘We hope we can reach a conclusion in 10 days’ (Posted on the 12 June)

https://www.blackwhitereadallover.com/2018/6/12/17455308/emre-can-liverpool-juventus-2018-summer-transfer-rumors

It would be funny if no one signs him and he ends up in Besiktas or something with half the wages he was making here.

You may get your wish.

Beppe Marotta on Emre Can: ‘We hope we can reach a conclusion in 10 days’ (Posted on the 12 June)

https://www.blackwhitereadallover.com/2018/6/12/17455308/emre-can-liverpool-juventus-2018-summer-transfer-rumors

You may get your wish.

He’s said hopes to have him signed within 10 days a few times now for the last few months.

He probably won't be missed too much, but would have been nice to get some money out of it.

FYI

https://twitter.com/juventusfcen/status/1009715165640777728

FYI

https://twitter.com/juventusfcen/status/1009715165640777728

I still don't understand why Juventus are interested in him, I know the Italian league is slower, but surely its still not slow enough for Can.

I still don't understand why Juventus are interested in him, I know the Italian league is slower, but surely its still not slow enough for Can.

So Klopp rates him ,Neville rates him and Juventus rate him as examples but you don't . I think I will stick with my opinion which happens to be the same as theirs

Neville rates him

Probably not the greatest example of opinion.


On the topic, really don't care he's leaving. Kind of forgot he existed for large parts of the season, to be honest. I'm glad we're aiming higher than this lazy piece of inconsistency.

Bottled more tackles than Henderson as well in his time here.

So Klopp rates him ,Neville rates him and Juventus rate him as examples but you don't . I think I will stick with my opinion which happens to be the same as theirs

If Klopp rated him why has he not paid Emre what he wants to keep him, which Neville do you refer to?

Are you really devastated that he's leaving, do you think it will really harm the team, if so how??

If Klopp rated him why has he not paid Emre what he wants to keep him, which Neville do you refer to?

Are you really devastated that he's leaving, do you think it will really harm the team, if so how??

Nothing to do with pay, more to do with having a release clause in his contract + expecting to be playing more..

Nothing to do with pay, more to do with having a release clause in his contract + expecting to be playing more..

The last bit, he was going to play even less with Kieta coming. To be honest I think we needed an upgrade to Can if we want to really challenge in the future,  that's not sour grapes because he's gone.

Meh.

Good luck to him. Never really kicked on and after every season I feel we all expected some improvement heading in to the next, which didn’t really happen. 

Good luck Can. Break a leg.

https://twitter.com/juventusfcen/status/1009791909127172096

https://twitter.com/juventusfcen/status/1009791909127172096

Best thing for all round. Good for Juventus, a bargain for them. Good for Can, he can roll around in money with his pay rise. Good for us, because a better player can get those wages and he didn't go to a rival.
I think people were off there rocker when they said he's worth 40m.
20-25m maybe, that would be if he were mid contract.
Would we buy can for 40m now? Would anybody? Not on your nelly!
Fabinho was 39m and he would have started ahead of Can if Can were still here if he performs as expected.
This all is down to Can wanted 200k per week and we didn't think he was good enough for it.
A player like Salah it is obvious he is worth 200k and every other player won't have a problem with it.
We pay Can 200k and players like Clyne and Lovren will be trying to fleece us before you know it.

Good luck to him. Very good combative midfielder that would compliment Bentancur or Pjanic.

See you la!!

 

All the best!

YNWA

Nothing to do with pay, more to do with having a release clause in his contract + expecting to be playing more..

So if Klopp rated him why didn't he play him more, do you see where I'm going with this :-)

Anyway good luck to him, on the whole he's been an ok player for us and has contributed but its time for us to move to the next level.

No tears from me. His song could be the UB40 classic " I am the 1 in 10"