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      Jun 13, 2018 11:45:54 am
      Plumber wins workers' rights battle against Pimlico Plumbers

      A plumber has won a legal battle for working rights in a Supreme Court ruling expected to have huge ramifications for freelance workers.

      Gary Smith had worked solely for Pimlico Plumbers for six years.

      Despite being VAT-registered and paying self-employed tax, he was entitled to workers' rights, the court ruled.

      The ruling will be closely read by others with similar disputes, many of whom work for firms in the so-called gig economy.

      An employment tribunal was "entitled to conclude" that Mr Smith was a worker, the court ruled.

      As a worker Mr Smith would be entitled to employment rights, such as holiday and sick pay.

      Tim Goodwin of law firm Winckworth Sherwood cautioned that the ruling may not apply to other complaints.

      "Even with a high level decision like this, to a degree the issue of employment status in the gig economy is up in the air.

      "The government is consulting on this issue, and may bring forward legislation. So it's quite possible that Parliament may overrule this decision within the next few months or years."

      And Alan Lewis, employment partner at law firm Irwin Mitchell said the decision was not a "game changer" and that cases would continue to be argued on their specific facts and, for businesses that rely on self employed contracts, that means further uncertainty.

      "This decision is not necessarily a win for 'gig economy' workers seeking to challenge their employment status."

      "Pimlico's plumbers do not operate a gig model and the implications for Uber, City Sprint, Deliveroo etc may be limited, although the publicity around this case may encourage other 'self employed' contractors to challenge their legal status," added Mr Lewis.

      The Supreme Court ruling means that an employment tribunal can now proceed to examine Mr Smith's action against Pimlico Plumbers as a worker, including a claim that he was unfairly dismissed.

      Pimlico Plumbers chief executive Charlie Mullins said he was "disgusted by the approach taken to this case by the highest court in the United Kingdom".

      "This was a poor decision that will potentially leave thousands of companies, employing millions of contractors, wondering if one day soon they will get nasty surprise from a former contractor demanding more money, despite having been paid in full years ago.

      "It can only lead to a tsunami of claims," he added.

      TUC General Secretary Frances O'Grady said the case had exposed "how widely sham self-employment has spread".

      Ms O'Grady said the TUC wanted the government to act quickly to "crack down on bogus self-employment" .

      At the moment it is up to an individual to prove that they are employed and entitled to workers' rights.

      The TUC wants the "burden of proof" to be reversed so workers benefit from rights "unless the employer can show they are genuinely self-employed".

      "It's time to end the Wild West in the gig economy," said Ms O'Grady.

      In February the government promised to overhaul employment rights to improve conditions for millions of workers, including those in the gig economy.

      The proposed changes include stricter enforcement of holiday and sick pay rights, and higher fines for firms that breach contracts or mistreat staff.

      It is a response to last year's Taylor Review into working practices, which concluded that all work in the UK's economy should be "fair and decent" and that people who work for platform-based companies, such as Deliveroo and Uber should be classed as dependent contractors.

      Mr Smith, from Kent, began his battle with Pimlico Plumbers when he wanted to reduce his hours following a heart attack in 2010.

      He wanted to cut the five-day week, which he had been signed up to work with the firm, to three.

      However, the firm refused and took away his branded van, which he had hired. He claims he was dismissed.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44465639

      State of that tory c**t Charlie Mullins, looks like some sad Rod Stewart tribute act!!

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      FBI agent who allegedly shot man while dancing charged with second degree assault

      Officials say they are waiting further toxicology results, and that further charges are possible

      An FBI agent who allegedly dropped his gun during a backflip and accidentally shot a man at a Denver night club has been charged with second-degree assault, according to authorities.

      The 29-year-old agent, Chase Bishop, is scheduled to appear in court on Wednesday, and has been booked in the city’s downtown detention centre.

      Mr Bishop may face further charges, the Denver District Attorney’s office said, pending results of a blood test to determine his blood alcohol content (BAC).

      “We are filing this charge now rather than waiting until the BAC report is received, which we understand could take another week, because sufficient evidence has been presented to file it,” District Attorney Beth McCann said in a press release.

      The charges stem from an incident in the early hours of June 1, when Mr Bishop was dancing at the club Mile High Spirits. A video of the incident allegedly shows Mr Bishop dancing with a circle of people around him, before he does a backflip.

      In the course of the backflip, Mr Bishop’s gun allegedly fell out out of his waistband. While attempting to pick up the gun, the gun is seen in the video misfiring. One man was shot in the leg, and survived, but his lawyer has told local media that he suffered serious wounds.

      Mr Bishop then allegedly put the gun into his waistband, and walks out of the camera frame in the video.

      Following the incident, Mr Bishop was not immediately arrested, and was instead released to an FBI supervisor.

      He appeared in court Tuesday on the second-degree assault charges, and the Denver DA says that he turned himself in voluntarily.

      The FBI, citing an ongoing investigation, could not confirm to The Independent whether Mr Bishop has received any disciplinary action following the alleged shooting incident.

      “In order to preserve the integrity of the ongoing investigation, we are unable to comment regarding this matter,” an FBI spokesperson said in an email. “The FBI will continue to fully cooperate with the Denver Police Department and the Denver District Attorney's Office as this matter proceeds through the judicial process.”

      It is not clear whether Mr Bishop was drinking at the time of the alleged incident, but Colorado law prohibits individuals from carrying a firearm while under the influence of alcohol.

      https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/dancing-fbi-agent-video-shoot-denver-charged-gun-chase-bishop-a8397141.html?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1528902638
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      Reply #2: Jun 14, 2018 04:01:26 am
      US jogger who dumped homeless man's belongings arrested

      A California jogger filmed dumping a homeless man's belongings in a lake is accused of stealing a bystander's phone as he recorded him a day later.

      Oakland city police arrested Henry Sintay, 30, on Monday on suspicion of robbery after he was apparently filmed in a fracas at the same location.

      Onlooker Matt Nelson shared the video on Facebook and said Mr Sintay had taken his phone during a tussle.

      Mr Sintay has not been charged over removing the homeless man's camp.

      The original video went viral in the US, provoking a debate about gentrification and race.

      Mr Sintay is white and the homeless man - who was not present in either video - is a black man, Greg Markson, reports the East Bay Times.

      Mr Nelson filmed someone alleged to be Mr Sintay last Saturday retrieving some of the homeless man's belongings from the lakeside.

      During the footage, Mr Nelson asks the man if he is the jogger who was caught on film a day earlier after throwing the possessions in the water.

      The man, who introduces himself as Henry, denies having thrown any of the homeless man's items in the lake.

      When Mr Nelson continues to question him while filming, Mr Sintay grabs his phone.   

      The rest of the video is jerky footage of an altercation during which Mr Nelson screams: "I'm being attacked here!"

      On Facebook, Mr Nelson claims he suffered a "mild concussion, some cuts and bruises and many sore and strained muscles" from the encounter.

      Mr Sintay now faces a second-degree robbery charge.

      The San Francisco Chronicle reported that Mr Sintay was being held at the Santa Rita jail and was due to appear in court on Wednesday.   

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44474366
       
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      Reply #3: Jun 15, 2018 03:07:27 pm
      Well if anything summed up what a bunch of f**king perverts the tory party are, this is it!!

      https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1007622958024744961
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      Reply #4: Jun 15, 2018 03:18:26 pm
      Well if anything summed up what a bunch of f**king perverts the tory party are, this is it!!

      https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1007622958024744961

      Ridiculous that it only takes one mp as well to stop it
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      Reply #5: Jun 15, 2018 03:34:10 pm
      Ridiculous that it only takes one mp as well to stop it

      Yeah - this fella, Conservative MP Sir Christopher Chope, who also:

      Voted against minimum wage
      Voted against equal marriage
      And tried to block the Hillsborough debate

      Sounds like a throughly nice bloke!!

      Hahaha seems someone's already been at his wiki page.

      "Sir Christopher Robert Chope OBE MP is an utter tw*t and absolute muppet with no conscience whatsoever." :laugh:
      « Last Edit: Jun 15, 2018 03:54:22 pm by HUYTON RED »
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      Reply #6: Jun 15, 2018 04:02:32 pm
      Yeah - this fella, Conservative MP Sir Christopher Chope, who also:

      Voted against minimum wage
      Voted against equal marriage
      And tried to block the Hillsborough debate

      Sounds like a throughly nice bloke!!

      Hahaha seems someone's already been at his wiki page.

      "Sir Christopher Robert Chope OBE MP is an utter tw*t and absolute muppet with no conscience whatsoever." :laugh:

      Wonder what his thoughts would be if his daughter,wife or mother fell victim to such a crime...then again sounds like a c**t who probably would do it himself.. Knobhead

      Law passed in Japan that every camera on a phone must have a clicking sound to combat upskirting..
      Frankly, Mr Shankly
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      Reply #7: Jun 15, 2018 09:42:36 pm
      Sir Christopher Chope (sir? SIR???!) - you dirty old f**k. Someone open a case on him...if he isn't already protected (which he probably is).
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      Reply #8: Jun 16, 2018 09:33:57 am
      Sir Christopher Chope (sir? SIR???!) - you dirty old f**k. Someone open a case on him...if he isn't already protected (which he probably is).

      Knight of the realm??

      Was there ever a better example of how flawed and f**king useless this elitist system is......forgot about Sir Jimmy Saville.
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      Reply #9: Jun 16, 2018 11:18:35 am
      Whatever your Political leanings we have here in one perfect example the reason why Parliament is not fit for purpose and not representative of the Country.
      Frankly, Mr Shankly
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      Reply #10: Jun 16, 2018 04:56:56 pm
      Absolutely devastating images of the Glasgow School of Art being absolutely gutted by fire. It doesn't look like it can be saved. And really sad for the ABC music venue next door where the fire spread to causing the roof to collapse. I remember seeing a Johnny Marr gig there a few years back whilst being absolutely wasted - absolutely riotous night it was and what a venue for it.
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      Reply #11: Jun 16, 2018 05:01:36 pm
      Absolutely devastating images of the Glasgow School of Art being absolutely gutted by fire. It doesn't look like it can be saved. And really sad for the ABC music venue next door where the fire spread to causing the roof to collapse. I remember seeing a Johnny Marr gig there a few years back whilst being absolutely wasted - absolutely riotous night it was and what a venue for it.

      Twice in the last couple of years isn't it ?
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      Reply #12: Jun 16, 2018 05:47:42 pm
      Well if anything summed up what a bunch of f**king perverts the tory party are, this is it!!

      https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1007622958024744961

      Not the party as a whole but yes there are some cu*ts in it, as there are in all parties, apparently its not the bill itself he objects to rather the fact that he hates ALL private members bills and goes out of his way to mess with them.
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      Reply #13: Jun 16, 2018 05:53:51 pm
      Not the party as a whole but yes there are some cu*ts in it, as there are in all parties, apparently its not the bill itself he objects to rather the fact that he hates ALL private members bills and goes out of his way to mess with them.

      Read something about that earlier, except when he introduces them though!!

      He's a f**king c**t, felt MP's pensions were more important than the Hillsborough debate or that was just a convenient excuse cos one of his constituents just happens to be the golf-playing, retired, tw*t in charge on the day.
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      Reply #14: Jun 16, 2018 05:57:22 pm
      Read something about that earlier, except when he introduces them though!!

      He's a f**king c**t, felt MP's pensions were more important than the Hillsborough debate or that was just a convenient excuse cos one of his constituents just happens to be the golf-playing, retired, tw*t in charge on the day.

      Oh I, 100% agree that this guy is a c**t, he should be deselected.
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      Reply #15: Jun 16, 2018 06:11:30 pm
      Oh I, 100% agree that this guy is a c**t, he should be deselected.

      And only under an hour afterwards, unbelievable!!

      https://twitter.com/Metro_Joey/status/1007633807359475712
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      Reply #16: Jun 16, 2018 10:25:37 pm

      Does the f**ker have a purpose at all? F**k sake, I don't think he knows what he is actually voting for the knob jockey..
      Frankly, Mr Shankly
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      Reply #17: Jun 16, 2018 11:01:06 pm
      Twice in the last couple of years isn't it ?

      May 2014 it caught fire the first time although it was a lot smaller than last night's.
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      Reply #18: Jun 18, 2018 04:53:34 pm
      May 2014 it caught fire the first time although it was a lot smaller than last night's.

      After the last fire they didn't put a sprinkler system in, unbelievable.
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      Reply #19: Jun 18, 2018 04:55:17 pm
      200 march in Orgreave probe demo

      Marchers on Saturday issued new calls for a public enquiry into police action during the so called battle of Orgreave during the 1984 miners strike.
      200 attended a rally to mark the anniversary of bloody clashes between thousands of miners and a force of police, security services and the army.
      Mounted officers were filmed clubbing and charging striking miners outside the coking plant in S.Yorkshire.

      Some of the 95 pitmen arrested were at the demonstration and marched past the site of the plant on Saturday, it is now a housing estate.
      Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn sent this message ''The brutality of Orgreave will not be forgotten, a Labour government will hold an enquiry so the truth and justice will come out''.



      http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2018-06-16/battle-of-orgreave-campaigners-hold-rally-to-renew-calls-for-public-inquiry/
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      Reply #20: Jun 19, 2018 06:50:55 pm
      Here's the goalkeeper we need!! Give that man a contract now, whoever he is ;)

      F***ing mad that.

      https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/1002625836258738176
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      Reply #21: Jun 20, 2018 03:04:34 pm
      Alan Sugar's a f**king tit!!

      Lord Sugar criticised for tweet comparing Senegal team to 'beach sellers in Marbella'



      Lord Sugar has been criticised for an "unhelpful and ignorant" tweet comparing Senegal's World Cup team to sellers on the "beach in Marbella".

      A picture of the team was posted next to pictures of sunglasses and handbags.

      Lord Sugar, 71, later deleted the post and apologised, saying "my attempt at humour has backfired".

      The British billionaire, who appears on the BBC's The Apprentice, said he "misjudged" the tweet and it was not "intended to cause offence".

      The tweet prompted hundreds of critical responses, including from Twitter users accusing him of racism.

      "I misjudged [my] earlier tweet," he posted later. "It was in no way intended to cause offence, and clearly my attempt at humour has backfired. I have deleted the tweet and am very sorry."

      Earlier the former Tottenham chairman had said his "funny tweet" had been "interpreted in the wrong way as offensive by a few people".

      He added: "Frankly I can't see that, I think it's funny. But I will pull it down if you insist."

      "This lazy, stereotypical and bigoted kind of attitude belongs to a bygone era," educational charity Show Racism the Red Card told BBC Sport.

      "The World Cup is a celebration of different cultures and brings people together from across the globe.

      "Lord Sugar's unhelpful and ignorant comments go very much against the spirit of this unique occasion and are probably best kept to himself."

      Piara Powar, executive director of anti-racism group Fare (Football Against Racism in Europe), said Lord Sugar's "stereotyping of a whole race" was "disgraceful and damaging".

      "Alan Sugar has deliberately and with racist intent sought to demean a World Cup football team," Powar said.

      The BBC said in a statement: "Lord Sugar has acknowledged this was a seriously misjudged tweet, and he's in no doubt about our view on this. It's right he's apologised unreservedly."

      Senegal's team includes a number of Premier League stars including Liverpool's Sadio Mane and Everton's Idrissa Gueye.

      They beat Poland 2-1 in their World Cup opener on Tuesday.

      Anti-racism body Kick It Out declined to comment when contacted by BBC Sport.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44544897

      Although that last line of the story must be a first.
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      Reply #22: Jun 20, 2018 03:21:44 pm
      Alan Sugar's a f**king tit!!

      Lord Sugar criticised for tweet comparing Senegal team to 'beach sellers in Marbella'



      Lord Sugar has been criticised for an "unhelpful and ignorant" tweet comparing Senegal's World Cup team to sellers on the "beach in Marbella".

      A picture of the team was posted next to pictures of sunglasses and handbags.

      Lord Sugar, 71, later deleted the post and apologised, saying "my attempt at humour has backfired".

      The British billionaire, who appears on the BBC's The Apprentice, said he "misjudged" the tweet and it was not "intended to cause offence".

      The tweet prompted hundreds of critical responses, including from Twitter users accusing him of racism.

      "I misjudged [my] earlier tweet," he posted later. "It was in no way intended to cause offence, and clearly my attempt at humour has backfired. I have deleted the tweet and am very sorry."

      Earlier the former Tottenham chairman had said his "funny tweet" had been "interpreted in the wrong way as offensive by a few people".

      He added: "Frankly I can't see that, I think it's funny. But I will pull it down if you insist."

      "This lazy, stereotypical and bigoted kind of attitude belongs to a bygone era," educational charity Show Racism the Red Card told BBC Sport.

      "The World Cup is a celebration of different cultures and brings people together from across the globe.

      "Lord Sugar's unhelpful and ignorant comments go very much against the spirit of this unique occasion and are probably best kept to himself."

      Piara Powar, executive director of anti-racism group Fare (Football Against Racism in Europe), said Lord Sugar's "stereotyping of a whole race" was "disgraceful and damaging".

      "Alan Sugar has deliberately and with racist intent sought to demean a World Cup football team," Powar said.

      The BBC said in a statement: "Lord Sugar has acknowledged this was a seriously misjudged tweet, and he's in no doubt about our view on this. It's right he's apologised unreservedly."

      Senegal's team includes a number of Premier League stars including Liverpool's Sadio Mane and Everton's Idrissa Gueye.

      They beat Poland 2-1 in their World Cup opener on Tuesday.

      Anti-racism body Kick It Out declined to comment when contacted by BBC Sport.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44544897

      Although that last line of the story must be a first.

      Kick it out are inconsistent if nothing else, previously they have played f**k about the most obscure trivia linking it with racism.
      Thought this would be right up their street.
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      Reply #23: Jun 20, 2018 04:18:37 pm
      Alan Sugar's a f**king tit!!

      Lord Sugar criticised for tweet comparing Senegal team to 'beach sellers in Marbella'



      Lord Sugar has been criticised for an "unhelpful and ignorant" tweet comparing Senegal's World Cup team to sellers on the "beach in Marbella".

      A picture of the team was posted next to pictures of sunglasses and handbags.

      Lord Sugar, 71, later deleted the post and apologised, saying "my attempt at humour has backfired".

      The British billionaire, who appears on the BBC's The Apprentice, said he "misjudged" the tweet and it was not "intended to cause offence".

      The tweet prompted hundreds of critical responses, including from Twitter users accusing him of racism.

      "I misjudged [my] earlier tweet," he posted later. "It was in no way intended to cause offence, and clearly my attempt at humour has backfired. I have deleted the tweet and am very sorry."

      Earlier the former Tottenham chairman had said his "funny tweet" had been "interpreted in the wrong way as offensive by a few people".

      He added: "Frankly I can't see that, I think it's funny. But I will pull it down if you insist."

      "This lazy, stereotypical and bigoted kind of attitude belongs to a bygone era," educational charity Show Racism the Red Card told BBC Sport.

      "The World Cup is a celebration of different cultures and brings people together from across the globe.

      "Lord Sugar's unhelpful and ignorant comments go very much against the spirit of this unique occasion and are probably best kept to himself."

      Piara Powar, executive director of anti-racism group Fare (Football Against Racism in Europe), said Lord Sugar's "stereotyping of a whole race" was "disgraceful and damaging".

      "Alan Sugar has deliberately and with racist intent sought to demean a World Cup football team," Powar said.

      The BBC said in a statement: "Lord Sugar has acknowledged this was a seriously misjudged tweet, and he's in no doubt about our view on this. It's right he's apologised unreservedly."

      Senegal's team includes a number of Premier League stars including Liverpool's Sadio Mane and Everton's Idrissa Gueye.

      They beat Poland 2-1 in their World Cup opener on Tuesday.

      Anti-racism body Kick It Out declined to comment when contacted by BBC Sport.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44544897

      Although that last line of the story must be a first.

      Knob head has previous & the cheeky c**t had audacity to call out Corbyn & Labour...

      I'm sure AMS would not see the funny side had a tweet been posted picturing a group of Jews with long noses surrounded by money & Gold rubbing their hands with glee...
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      Reply #24: Jun 22, 2018 10:16:13 am
      My Mum in Law is 93 has a lifeline pendant in case of a fall. We have just found out that Vauxhall Lifeline went into administration back in March and the staff haven't been paid but continued to work for fear their customers would be left without care.
      They have now been taken over but lost two months pay, pay I would suggest at the lower end of the scale. Not sure how the company went bust but what fantastic people they had working for them many of whom had worked for over 20 years its a good job most people are not just motivated by money because how many of us would work for two months without pay. Met a lot of people in the Care sector when my Mum was poorly and its a pity salaries aren't reflective of commitment.
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      Reply #25: Jun 22, 2018 10:29:53 am
      Knob head has previous & the cheeky c**t had audacity to call out Corbyn & Labour...

      I'm sure AMS would not see the funny side had a tweet been posted picturing a group of Jews with long noses surrounded by money & Gold rubbing their hands with glee...

      That comment is blatantly racist, a typical stereotype promoted by the Hitler anti-Semitic programme.
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      Reply #26: Jun 22, 2018 10:38:58 am
      That comment is blatantly racist, a typical stereotype promoted by the Hitler anti-Semitic programme.
      Agree, two wrongs don't make a right.
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      Reply #27: Jun 22, 2018 12:02:02 pm
      Tories use racist policies as they know they go down well with some sections of British society. Look how well they did in the Council Elections in the face of the Wind Rush debacle.  These types of policies go down well with their own and with disgruntled UKIP voters.

      Even some floating voters will buy into Tory racist policies . The Tories are  truely a morally bankrupt mob if ever there was one.
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      Reply #28: Jun 22, 2018 12:20:26 pm
      That comment is blatantly racist, a typical stereotype promoted by the Hitler anti-Semitic programme.

      Behave Stuey FFS look at all the bitching that tw*t Sugar did over the anti-semitic thing with Labour. Yet the only reason he apologised over that tweet was cos the BBC got onto him & he realised his little earner he has on The Apprentice was under threat.

      Talking of the Apprentice - what is it about that programme? Trump, Sugar & especially that Grade A c**t Katie F***ing Hopkins.
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      Reply #29: Jun 22, 2018 12:34:31 pm
      That comment is blatantly racist, a typical stereotype promoted by the Hitler anti-Semitic programme.

      No it's not, Shabs is making a comparison of double standards, not a comment about the Jewish faith.

      It's amazing that when a leftie liberal makes ‘a terrible joke’ they’re racist, but a right winger does the same it’s banter and the criticisers are snowflakes.

      If Corbyn had tweeted that the knives would be out, but with Sugar, one apology and it's brushed under the carpet.
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      Reply #30: Jun 22, 2018 12:59:03 pm
      No it's not, Shabs is making a comparison of double standards, not a comment about the Jewish faith.

      It's amazing that when a leftie liberal makes ‘a terrible joke’ they’re racist, but a right winger does the same it’s banter and the criticisers are snowflakes.

      If Corbyn had tweeted that the knives would be out, but with Sugar, one apology and it's brushed under the carpet.
      We would understand why it's racist without the comparison. If Shabs comment isn't racist then neither is Sugars. They either both are or neither are. Shabs took it out on Jewish faith when not all Jewish people are like lord Sugar. Anti semitism isn't welcome.  It's no good using the snowflake card, if it offends 1% of people it's still offensive.

      You can't fight racism with racism. It's not about being a snowflake it's just pure logic.
      1+1=2 not 0.
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      Reply #31: Jun 22, 2018 01:18:17 pm
      We would understand why it's racist without the comparison. If Shabs comment isn't racist then neither is Sugars. They either both are or neither are. Shabs took it out on Jewish faith when not all Jewish people are like lord Sugar. Anti semitism isn't welcome.  It's no good using the snowflake card, if it offends 1% of people it's still offensive.

      You can't fight racism with racism. It's not about being a snowflake it's just pure logic.
      1+1=2 not 0.

      Is entirely correct. Sugar is Jewish and the analogy of long nosed Jews hoarding tons of gold is blatantly stereotypical and therefore racist.
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      Reply #32: Jun 22, 2018 01:23:55 pm
      Is entirely correct. Sugar is Jewish and the analogy of long nosed Jews hoarding tons of gold is blatantly stereotypical and therefore racist.

      Yes maybe but wasn't shabs simply using it as to show an example of Sugars nativity or own ignorance if the shoe was on the other foot

      Why should he use remarks against one set of people, had it been this remark then he would unlikely see it as a joke of it

      I don't think shabs was at all saying that remark was his opinion just simply would sugar find that funny
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      Reply #33: Jun 22, 2018 01:29:41 pm
      Is entirely correct. Sugar is Jewish and the analogy of long nosed Jews hoarding tons of gold is blatantly stereotypical and therefore racist.

      What do you think about Sugar's tweet though?

      Instead of getting your knickers in a twist, realise Shabs is trying to point out Sugar's hypocritical, two-faced behaviour.

      And he's f**king right btw.
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      Reply #34: Jun 22, 2018 01:36:16 pm
      What do you think about Sugar's tweet though?

      Instead of getting your knickers in a twist, realise Shabs is trying to point out Sugar's hypocritical, two-faced behaviour.

      And he's f**king right btw.

      Is right.

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      Reply #35: Jun 22, 2018 01:54:55 pm
      What do you think about Sugar's tweet though?

      Instead of getting your knickers in a twist, realise Shabs is trying to point out Sugar's hypocritical, two-faced behaviour.

      And he's f**king right btw.

      Whatever.
      As the man said two wrongs are no f**king good to anyone and only serve to escalate any situation.
      Your refer to previous conduct of Sugar to somehow justify any reaction, how about referring to the previous dialogue of your man Shabs to Jewish people and the Jewish state?

      As an add on Sugar is a complete balloon with the stupid tweet but to infer there is a racist sub-text to it is contrived and tbh f**king crazy.
      Don't like the man myself but to use a foolish comment, which he apologised for, as sniping material is as foolish.
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      Reply #36: Jun 22, 2018 02:19:32 pm
      Whatever.
      As the man said two wrongs are no f**king good to anyone and only serve to escalate any situation.
      Your refer to previous conduct of Sugar to somehow justify any reaction, how about referring to the previous dialogue of your man Shabs to Jewish people and the Jewish state?

      As an add on Sugar is a complete balloon with the stupid tweet but to infer there is a racist sub-text to it is contrived and tbh f**king crazy.
      Don't like the man myself but to use a foolish comment, which he apologised for, as sniping material is as foolish.

      Using your own reply Stuey "Whatever!!"

      It's a sh*t, unfunny racist joke by a two faced rich tw*t who thinks he's absolved of blame because of who he is.
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      Reply #37: Jun 22, 2018 02:58:06 pm
      No it's not, Shabs is making a comparison of double standards, not a comment about the Jewish faith.

      It's amazing that when a leftie liberal makes ‘a terrible joke’ they’re racist, but a right winger does the same it’s banter and the criticisers are snowflakes.

      If Corbyn had tweeted that the knives would be out, but with Sugar, one apology and it's brushed under the carpet.

      That's all what I was doing RP, showing the double standards & evidence is clear in the reaction of Stuey who see' sit fit to call me out rather than Sugar on his tweet towards the Senegal team..
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      Reply #38: Jun 22, 2018 04:26:40 pm
      Using your own reply Stuey "Whatever!!"

      It's a sh*t, unfunny racist joke by a two faced rich tw*t who thinks he's absolved of blame because of who he is.

      As I said mate don't like the man myself but to get back to the crux of the matter comments with hidden agendas only serve to extend and exaggerate what fails as a joke and is fashioned into something else.
      If some other parasite had used the same subject matter for a chuckle, would there be a reference to big noses, Jews and hoarding gold?
      There lies the agenda.
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      Reply #39: Jun 22, 2018 04:43:34 pm
      As I said mate don't like the man myself but to get back to the crux of the matter comments with hidden agendas only serve to extend and exaggerate what fails as a joke and is fashioned into something else.
      If some other parasite had used the same subject matter for a chuckle, would there be a reference to big noses, Jews and hoarding gold?
      There lies the agenda.

      The only agenda seems to be yours against shabs

      He was simply using an obvious example of double standards. Sugar still thinks there was nothing in his comment and it was a joke but like shabs said would he feel the same had someone else made the joke shabs used as an example.
      I don't think you'll find he was saying either were right
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      Reply #40: Jun 22, 2018 05:02:08 pm
      The only agenda seems to be yours against shabs

      He was simply using an obvious example of double standards. Sugar still thinks there was nothing in his comment and it was a joke but like shabs said would he feel the same had someone else made the joke shabs used as an example.
      I don't think you'll find he was saying either were right
      It is impossible to be alive without noticing differences in races. Example is 75% of Basketball players are African American. I don't think NBA is racist. There have been Olympic races without any white people. Is that racist? No it is a fact. This is uncontrollable science and it is acceptable to study or theoreticize a reason. The problem comes when people use the difference to have a dig to make humour, especially when the victim is disadvantaged. Sugar here is very guilty of doing that and we all know that without a racist idiom. Shabs response was a pure shot at Jewish faith. It's clear, it's indefensible. A non racist Idiom of what happened regarding Shabs. If somebody ran over your cat and you like cats, would you go and run over their dog so you can say... see how you like it? The actual dog and cat is innocent. Just poor owners. In this sense regarding Sugar and Shabs, innocent faiths and footballers, but poor posters.
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      Reply #41: Jun 22, 2018 05:18:05 pm
      It is impossible to be alive without noticing differences in races. Example is 75% of Basketball players are African American. I don't think NBA is racist. There have been Olympic races without any white people. Is that racist? No it is a fact. This is uncontrollable science and it is acceptable to study or theoreticize a reason. The problem comes when people use the difference to have a dig to make humour, especially when the victim is disadvantaged. Sugar here is very guilty of doing that and we all know that without a racist idiom. Shabs response was a pure shot at Jewish faith. It's clear, it's indefensible. A non racist Idiom of what happened regarding Shabs. If somebody ran over your cat and you like cats, would you go and run over their dog so you can say... see how you like it? The actual dog and cat is innocent. Just poor owners. In this sense regarding Sugar and Shabs, innocent faiths and footballers, but poor posters.

      What
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      Reply #42: Jun 22, 2018 05:26:43 pm
      It is impossible to be alive without noticing differences in races. Example is 75% of Basketball players are African American. I don't think NBA is racist. There have been Olympic races without any white people. Is that racist? No it is a fact. This is uncontrollable science and it is acceptable to study or theoreticize a reason. The problem comes when people use the difference to have a dig to make humour, especially when the victim is disadvantaged. Sugar here is very guilty of doing that and we all know that without a racist idiom. Shabs response was a pure shot at Jewish faith. It's clear, it's indefensible. A non racist Idiom of what happened regarding Shabs. If somebody ran over your cat and you like cats, would you go and run over their dog so you can say... see how you like it? The actual dog and cat is innocent. Just poor owners. In this sense regarding Sugar and Shabs, innocent faiths and footballers, but poor posters.



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      You guys might think I am Flibbertigibbeting, but to me it is easy to understand the concept.
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      Reply #44: Jun 22, 2018 06:16:00 pm
      The only agenda seems to be yours against shabs

      He was simply using an obvious example of double standards. Sugar still thinks there was nothing in his comment and it was a joke but like shabs said would he feel the same had someone else made the joke shabs used as an example.
      I don't think you'll find he was saying either were right

      Where is my ''agenda"?
      I state nothing but fact.
      I agree with everything stated about Sugar, the reference to "big noses, Jews and hoards of gold" was inappropriate in whatever context.
      This was pointed out.
      I ask you again where is there an agenda?

      I rarely reply to Shabs knowing as I do he does hold extreme political and religious views, he has been warned as I have about such exchanges so I am now extremely careful not to be provoked. Previous forum members have been less restrained have been warned and said f**k this I'm outa here.
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      Reply #45: Jun 22, 2018 06:45:07 pm
      You guys might think I am Flibbertigibbeting, but to me it is easy to understand the concept.

      You mean talking sh*te lad!!
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      Reply #46: Jun 22, 2018 07:41:45 pm

      Yeah er... not sure 🤔



      I rarely reply to Shabs knowing as I do he does hold extreme political and religious views, he has been warned as I have about such exchanges so I am now extremely careful not to be provoked. Previous forum members have been less restrained have been warned and said f**k this I'm outa here.

      Oh yeah... here it's seeping out in the same post 👌
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      Reply #47: Jun 22, 2018 08:23:11 pm
      Yeah er... not sure 🤔

      Oh yeah... here it's seeping out in the same post 👌

      off ya pop lad.
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      Reply #48: Jun 22, 2018 08:42:09 pm

      Right up there with whatever that 😂👍
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      Reply #49: Jun 23, 2018 06:20:29 pm
      https://twitter.com/MirrorFootball/status/1010127058037600257

      Anyone else thinks Mane hates The Apprentice :laugh:
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      Reply #50: Jun 23, 2018 09:23:15 pm
      If BBC stick with Sugar it will totally suck.
      I am not a fan of BBC, I don't watch much on it other than International football.
      I use Netflix sometimes, I watch Shield and Gotham on E4.
      The only thing I really care about on BBC is Dr Who, which hardly ever comes on.
      People pay £150+ for a TV Licence, never watch BBC.. yet the entire TV Licence is just to fund BBC.
      All other channels fund themselves by advertising.
      Millions of the public's money going into Mark Lawro, Sugars, Evans and Nortons pockets is a disgrace.
      Frankly, Mr Shankly
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      Reply #51: Jun 23, 2018 09:47:31 pm

      Let's hope he gets sacked by the BBC so we don't have to avoid ANOTHER series (ie the same sh*t every single year) of The Apprentice and giving a platform to the worst cu*ts that the UK has to offer.

      Now if the whole of the Strictly Come Dancing cast and production team is revealed to be part of an underground racist cabal operating at the heart of Britain's largest cities then that would be ideal.
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      Reply #52: Jun 24, 2018 01:03:01 pm

      Let's hope he gets sacked by the BBC so we don't have to avoid ANOTHER series (ie the same sh*t every single year) of The Apprentice and giving a platform to the worst cu*ts that the UK has to offer.

      Now if the whole of the Strictly Come Dancing cast and production team is revealed to be part of an underground racist cabal operating at the heart of Britain's largest cities then that would be ideal.



      Makes no odds if the obnoxious Sugar gets the bullet from the BBC, the equally obnoxious Apprentice or money is God show will be snapped up by some other irrelevant TV company.

      What relevance can this bag of sh*te broadcast have to the vast majority of people?
      On the very rare occasion that it has been viewed I am waiting for Paul Whitehouse or someone similar to appear exposing it for the contemptible, idiotic, subliminal bullshit that it is.
      That description is fitting for Lord of the ringpiece Sugar himself truth be told.
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      Reply #53: Jun 29, 2018 11:08:36 am


      Makes no odds if the obnoxious Sugar gets the bullet from the BBC, the equally obnoxious Apprentice or money is God show will be snapped up by some other irrelevant TV company.

      What relevance can this bag of sh*te broadcast have to the vast majority of people?
      On the very rare occasion that it has been viewed I am waiting for Paul Whitehouse or someone similar to appear exposing it for the contemptible, idiotic, subliminal bullshit that it is.
      That description is fitting for Lord of the ringpiece Sugar himself truth be told.

      But again it's an example of people in powerful positions knowing they can do whatever the like, racist or whatever, and get away with it. Sugar knows full well the BBC won't sack him. He'll just ride out a very small storm and carry on as per. We can only guess at the stuff he says in private...but we have a pretty good idea.
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      Reply #54: Jun 29, 2018 11:26:16 am
      But again it's an example of people in powerful positions knowing they can do whatever the like, racist or whatever, and get away with it. Sugar knows full well the BBC won't sack him. He'll just ride out a very small storm and carry on as per. We can only guess at the stuff he says in private...but we have a pretty good idea.

      And again I'll bet the racist tweet went down well in Tory circles. The Tory party themselves put together the Windrush campaign.Arguably the most racist policy since slavery.

      So it seems the rich and powerful can do whatever they like, racism, whatever but if anybody calls them out they'd be strung up. For instance if a black celebrity or a black person in a powerful position had made a racist slur, about Sugar, in revenge, we can only imagine the backlash against that person.

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