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      Group B games. Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran

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      Re: Group B games. Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran
      Reply #120: Jun 25, 2018 08:30:49 pm
      Ref has lost all control of the Portugal v Iran game.
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      Re: Group B games. Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran
      Reply #121: Jun 25, 2018 08:42:41 pm
      Some of these var decisions are getting daft
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      Re: Group B games. Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran
      Reply #122: Jun 25, 2018 08:44:23 pm
      Ronaldo should be off. Lawro saying nothing in it? He needs to give up commentating.
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      Reply #123: Jun 25, 2018 08:44:30 pm
      Some of these var decisions are getting daft

      Been saying the same thing..
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      Reply #124: Jun 25, 2018 08:46:05 pm

      Absolutely no chance that's a red.


      This was my worry it's changing the flow of games and how players and manager's are trying to use it
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      Reply #125: Jun 25, 2018 08:47:48 pm
      Hierro doesn't have a clue reminds me of Hodgson.
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      Reply #126: Jun 25, 2018 08:48:08 pm
      Ronaldo sticks an elbow into an Iranian players face and gets a yellow card . WTF if its a foul and a card it has to be RED
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      Re: Group B games. Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran
      Reply #127: Jun 25, 2018 08:51:39 pm
      Hierro doesn't have a clue reminds me of Hodgson.

      Like a rabbit caught in the headlights.

      2-2. But one of the worst displays I've ever seen from Spain.
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      Reply #128: Jun 25, 2018 08:51:43 pm
      football has just gone completely mad no way on this earth can that be a penalty
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      Reply #129: Jun 25, 2018 08:53:10 pm
      Its clear VAR is just going to be too controversial and taking far too long to be a good for football.
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      Re: Group B games. Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran
      Reply #130: Jun 25, 2018 08:53:51 pm
      Hierro doesn't have a clue reminds me of Hodgson.

      that's a bit harsh mate I was thinking more of Arkwright and Hodgson
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      Reply #131: Jun 25, 2018 08:56:13 pm
      Stone wall penalty and Lawro thinks no pen. Referee got it spot on.
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      Reply #132: Jun 25, 2018 08:56:21 pm
      Ronaldo sticks an elbow into an Iranian players face and gets a yellow card . WTF if its a foul and a card it has to be RED

      Not a red mate.

      He's chasing a ball down and the defender falls back across him. Ronaldo is simply trying to run past him. Absolutely no intent
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      Reply #133: Jun 25, 2018 08:56:23 pm
      two weird games tonight its like Spain and Portugal didn't want to win the group
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      Re: Group B games. Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran
      Reply #134: Jun 25, 2018 08:57:56 pm
      Some of these var decisions are getting daft

      Yep.

      Still don't like it as too many times the final decision is still debatable and it takes too long to come to it.

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      Reply #135: Jun 25, 2018 08:58:53 pm
      Not a red mate.

      He's chasing a ball down and the defender falls back across him. Ronaldo is simply trying to run past him. Absolutely no intent

      bollocks he had his elbow up ready and waiting if he gets a yellow then it has to be a red. some weird Ref decisions tonight how that was a penalty is beyond me I can see VAR deciding the winners of the World Cup which would be such a travesty. SCRAP VAR NOW
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      Reply #136: Jun 25, 2018 08:59:25 pm
      Yep.

      Still don't like it as too many times the final decision is still debatable and it takes too long to come to it.

      There is such a difference too between seeing something first time at full speed to over and over again in super slow motion.
      It makes the "fouls" look worse
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      Re: Group B games. Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran
      Reply #137: Jun 25, 2018 08:59:40 pm
      Keep VAR to Penalty area decisions only and even then its debatable
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      Reply #138: Jun 25, 2018 09:02:11 pm
      There is such a difference too between seeing something first time at full speed to over and over again in super slow motion.
      It makes the "fouls" look worse

      Yep.

      The goal line tech is fine as that is a definite that is undebatable but I'd bin the VAR.
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      Re: Group B games. Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran
      Reply #139: Jun 25, 2018 09:02:25 pm
      Not a red mate.

      He's chasing a ball down and the defender falls back across him. Ronaldo is simply trying to run past him. Absolutely no intent
      Red all day, elbow up with arm in face. Those are always red cards.
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      Reply #140: Jun 25, 2018 09:06:04 pm
      Red all day, elbow up with arm in face. Those are always red cards.

      if it was any card it had to be a red you don't get a yellow for violent conduct. These Refs and VAR are going to influence the WC in a very negative way
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      Re: Group B games. Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran
      Reply #141: Jun 25, 2018 09:06:30 pm
      Red all day, elbow up with arm in face. Those are always red cards.

      Never touched his face just play acting for VAR to go their way..
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      Reply #142: Jun 25, 2018 09:07:58 pm
      Yep.

      The goal line tech is fine as that is a definite that is undebatable but I'd bin the VAR.

      its becoming a joke mate it has to be used in the penalty area only and even then its getting the wrong decisions time out for me it needs more time
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      Re: Group B games. Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran
      Reply #143: Jun 25, 2018 09:10:24 pm
      its becoming a joke mate it has to be used in the penalty area only and even then its getting the wrong decisions time out for me it needs more time

      I wouldn't give it any time.

      Keep goal line and let the ref get on with the rest.

      It's here to stay though.
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      Reply #144: Jun 25, 2018 09:10:51 pm
      Never touched his face just play acting for VAR to go their way..

      you need a bigger tv he set himself up just prior to the incident and intent is just as bad these days
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      Re: Group B games. Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran
      Reply #145: Jun 25, 2018 09:14:25 pm
      Never touched his face just play acting for VAR to go their way..

      No way it was a red. No intent. Eyes only on the ball, the player falls across his path as he's running to chase the ball

      No way.

      Again one that looks worse slowed down. If you've played at any level you know about intent and there was zero there
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      Re: Group B games. Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran
      Reply #146: Jun 25, 2018 09:18:34 pm
      No way it was a red. No intent. Eyes only on the ball, the player falls across his path as he's running to chase the ball

      No way.

      Again one that looks worse slowed down. If you've played at any level you know about intent and there was zero there

      I agree. If Salah had done that, I too would have said it was nothing.
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      Reply #147: Jun 25, 2018 09:19:38 pm
      you need a bigger tv he set himself up just prior to the incident and intent is just as bad these days

      No intent for me mate, far to many decisions for VAR to get involved in. Wasn't clear, wasn't obvious.
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      Reply #148: Jun 25, 2018 09:21:55 pm
      No way was that a red. Not even a yellow, no intent whatsoever.

      And definitely not a pen either.  The ref in that second half was a joke. 
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      Reply #149: Jun 25, 2018 09:22:57 pm
      I hope Suarez and co can destroy Portugal, I really don't want to see Ronaldo lift the WC!!!!

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