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      World Cup Scouting Thread

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      Robby The Z
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      Reply #120: Jun 23, 2018 03:49:55 am
      Seeing Ahmed Musa take those goals today was the first time in this tournament someone made me think, maybe he could be an option.

      It would be as a backup of course and as he's under contract to Leicester, my guess is the price would be inflated. Doesn't look like he's set the world on fire in his career, but I'm just going by those two goals today. took them well,

      Probably as much in it as every other transfer thought this summer. I just miss the season, miss avid discussion on here  and miss a lot of things at the moment.
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      Reply #121: Jun 23, 2018 03:43:51 pm
      Seeing Ahmed Musa take those goals today was the first time in this tournament someone made me think, maybe he could be an option.

      It would be as a backup of course and as he's under contract to Leicester, my guess is the price would be inflated. Doesn't look like he's set the world on fire in his career, but I'm just going by those two goals today. took them well,

      Probably as much in it as every other transfer thought this summer. I just miss the season, miss avid discussion on here  and miss a lot of things at the moment.


      Shocked he found the net with both his chances! He was awful for Leicester.

      KDB is magnificent to watch. Utterly brilliant and makes it look effortless.
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      Reply #122: Jun 23, 2018 04:28:33 pm
      Lozano looks a handful and get ups and down well
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      Reply #123: Jun 23, 2018 05:29:49 pm
      Lozano, I agree, has been immense for Mexico in the two games I've seen.  His pressing would be suit us.
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      Reply #124: Jun 23, 2018 05:30:52 pm
      Lozano, I agree, has been immense for Mexico in the two games I've seen.  His pressing would be suit us.

      Give rib a call, see how much he would cost
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      Reply #125: Jun 23, 2018 05:36:13 pm
      Give rib a call, see how much he would cost
        :lmao:
      Plays for PSV doesn't he?  Worth a look I reckon.

      (Lozano I mean, not Rib!)
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      Reply #126: Jun 23, 2018 05:58:55 pm
      Can see why Barca are interested in Lozano exciting young player definitely a Klopp type player.
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      Reply #127: Jun 23, 2018 06:13:44 pm
      Lozano looks a handful and get ups and down well

      Tough little bugger, too.
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      Reply #128: Jun 23, 2018 06:14:44 pm

      Seen him get sent off in holland so has an edge to his game
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      Reply #129: Jun 23, 2018 06:21:36 pm

      Agree sure we was linked with him at some stage . Price will probably highten now especially with Barca sniffing
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      Reply #130: Jun 23, 2018 07:01:47 pm
      Draxler looks set to be playing in a 10ish position tonight. Good opportunity to see if he'd be a viable alternative to Fekir or not
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      Reply #131: Jun 23, 2018 07:36:16 pm
      Remember we were linked with Toivonen.

      Under Hodgey I think.
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      Reply #132: Jun 23, 2018 09:46:19 pm
      Seen him get sent off in holland so has an edge to his game

      I saw Suarez biting and getting sent off in Holland.

      He definitely had an edge  >:D
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      Reply #133: Jun 24, 2018 02:41:49 am
      I saw Suarez biting and getting sent off in Holland.

      He definitely had an edge  >:D

      His teeth did, at least.

      Interested to see if a European club tries to sign the South Korean goalkeeper. He's looked quite good. No, I don't think we will.
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      Reply #134: Jun 24, 2018 03:41:11 am
      His teeth did, at least.

      Interested to see if a European club tries to sign the South Korean goalkeeper. He's looked quite good. No, I don't think we will.


      Commentator said that in a sh*t club side he still managed to be named keeper of the season in the K League.

      Looked decent, too.

      Son HM would be a great bench option for us.
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      Reply #135: Jun 24, 2018 09:20:28 am
      His teeth did, at least.

      Interested to see if a European club tries to sign the South Korean goalkeeper. He's looked quite good. No, I don't think we will.


      If cheap enough we will, for the commercial opportunities that lie ahead in the Korean market!
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      Reply #136: Jun 24, 2018 10:52:25 am
      Draxler looks set to be playing in a 10ish position tonight. Good opportunity to see if he'd be a viable alternative to Fekir or not

      Draxler is crap.

      No surprise he was subbed off at half time.
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      Reply #137: Jun 24, 2018 02:40:05 pm
      I’d love to see what Jürgen could do to Loftus-Cheek’s game. He has all the tools to be very good.

      This Henderson fella running the show, too.
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      Reply #138: Jun 24, 2018 02:56:34 pm
      Draxler is crap.

      No surprise he was subbed off at half time.
      Both games I've watched him play in this WC he looked very bad indeed. He was played down the middle to start the game yesterday and he didn't show any kind of creativity either in tight spaces or even when the pitch was a bit more clear in front of him.

      You can't even bring up the excuse of the final third being completely overcrowded and shut by Mexico and Sweden to excuse his bad game because Werner was moved to the LW position (Draxler's main position in both games) and he basically assisted the first goal and won the free-kick that won Germany the game.

      Another thing I noticed is that he seems to be really slow he for a winger.
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      Reply #139: Jun 24, 2018 03:28:47 pm
      Both games I've watched him play in this WC he looked very bad indeed. He was played down the middle to start the game yesterday and he didn't show any kind of creativity either in tight spaces or even when the pitch was a bit more clear in front of him.

      You can't even bring up the excuse of the final third being completely overcrowded and shut by Mexico and Sweden to excuse his bad game because Werner was moved to the LW position (Draxler's main position in both games) and he basically assisted the first goal and won the free-kick that won Germany the game.

      Another thing I noticed is that he seems to be really slow he for a winger.

      Draxler was always slow not sure how he ended up a winger. He had one half decent season and World Cup 4 years ago been living off it since. Only a fool would pay money to sign him. Can see him leaving PSG on a free and ending up back in Germany at a mid table club.
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      Reply #140: Jun 24, 2018 04:07:36 pm
      Draxler was always slow not sure how he ended up a winger. He had one half decent season and World Cup 4 years ago been living off it since. Only a fool would pay money to sign him. Can see him leaving PSG on a free and ending up back in Germany at a mid table club.
      He is pretty bad especially when you watch him with, in the back of your head, the expectations linked to his name. This goes to show you that sometimes players are built up into something they are not mainly by some highlights on a video and mouth to ear praise that people replicate without taking a real look at the said player.

      He moved from Wolfsburg to PSG on a 36M fee which is crazy because this was pre-inflation. In today's market, this is the equivalent of what? Around 80M no less? He's not awful, but certainly not worth that fee.
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      Reply #141: Jun 24, 2018 05:00:11 pm
      He is pretty bad especially when you watch him with, in the back of your head, the expectations linked to his name. This goes to show you that sometimes players are built up into something they are not mainly by some highlights on a video and mouth to ear praise that people replicate without taking a real look at the said player.

      He moved from Wolfsburg to PSG on a 36M fee which is crazy because this was pre-inflation. In today's market, this is the equivalent of what? Around 80M no less? He's not awful, but certainly not worth that fee.

      I was impressed with him in the confederation cup tbh, but nothing stand out. I would take Shaqiri over Draxler. Whilst Shaqiri is inconsistent, he can at least produce moments of magic, and at 26, his peak years are approaching, certainly a player worth taking a gamble on, especially at 12.5m and probably low wages (he is on 65k at Stoke)!

      I would be very happy if we signed Kovacic and Shaqiri for our attack/midfield and stop at that.
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      Reply #142: Jun 24, 2018 06:47:30 pm
      I was impressed with him in the confederation cup tbh, but nothing stand out. I would take Shaqiri over Draxler. Whilst Shaqiri is inconsistent, he can at least produce moments of magic, and at 26, his peak years are approaching, certainly a player worth taking a gamble on, especially at 12.5m and probably low wages (he is on 65k at Stoke)!

      I would be very happy if we signed Kovacic and Shaqiri for our attack/midfield and stop at that.
      Draxler was Germany's worst player in both games. This is how disappointing he is until now. I'd be surprised if he started the next game. Brandt and Werner as a winger are two options way ahead of him in the pecking order atm in my opinion.

      Kovacic is good, but I doubt Madrid lets him move. If I had to take a guess Madrid is going to slowly transition him into Modric's role and position and what a better mentor than an another Croatian who plays the exact same position he does and somehow has a very very similar skill set, but on a more developed level.

      Kovacic is pure ''Madrid level quality'' and at 24,  they are probably planning on keeping for a long time. 
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      Reply #143: Jun 24, 2018 07:00:41 pm
      Kovacic is good, but I doubt Madrid lets him move. If I had to take a guess Madrid is going to slowly transition him into Modric's role and position and what a better mentor than an another Croatian who plays the exact same position he does and somehow has a very very similar skill set, but on a more developed level.

      Kovacic is pure ''Madrid level quality'' and at 24,  they are probably planning on keeping for a long time.

      I agree,  but he said he wants to leave, so why keep an unhappy player? I think he is a complete midfielder that can play 6, 8 and 10 with a lot of similarities to Ox. I would take him over Fekir as I have seen more Kovacic than Fekir.

      Going on the prices of, Keita, Fabinho, Jorginho and Fred, I reckon he'd cost 40-60m, and if that's the case, we should jump on him asap!
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      Reply #144: Jun 24, 2018 07:40:06 pm
      Quintero looks  a tidy little player
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      Reply #145: Jun 24, 2018 07:42:16 pm
      I agree,  but he said he wants to leave, so why keep an unhappy player? I think he is a complete midfielder that can play 6, 8 and 10 with a lot of similarities to Ox. I would take him over Fekir as I have seen more Kovacic than Fekir.

      Going on the prices of, Keita, Fabinho, Jorginho and Fred, I reckon he'd cost 40-60m, and if that's the case, we should jump on him asap!
      I agree with you, I'd take him anytime too. Unfortunately, RM came out not so long after he said that and said they were not going to let him go which leads me to believe they'll try and accommodate him and start transitioning him into a starting role by giving him much more playing time.

      RM renegotiated a lot of their players contracts after the Neymar saga last summer and so if you want to bypass negotiations with them and buy him anyway, his release clause is only 300M  :)
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      Reply #146: Jun 24, 2018 07:53:39 pm
      Unfortunately, RM came out not so long after he said that and said they were not going to let him go which leads me to believe they'll try and accommodate him and start transitioning him into a starting role by giving him much more playing time.


      F**k sake, didn't know they said that :( Oh well.
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      Reply #147: Jun 24, 2018 07:57:53 pm
      James looks like he’d be perfect for us.
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      Reply #148: Jun 24, 2018 07:59:16 pm
      I agree with you, I'd take him anytime too. Unfortunately, RM came out not so long after he said that and said they were not going to let him go which leads me to believe they'll try and accommodate him and start transitioning him into a starting role by giving him much more playing time.

      RM renegotiated a lot of their players contracts after the Neymar saga last summer and so if you want to bypass negotiations with them and buy him anyway, his release clause is only 300M  :)

      With the change of coach to one with a track record of developing youngsters and a few players getting older expect to see the younger guys get more minutes
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      Reply #149: Jun 24, 2018 07:59:21 pm
      James looks like he’d be perfect for us.

      Suck a quality player when used in the right formation.

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