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      World Cup Scouting Thread

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      bazspeedman
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      Re: World Cup Scouting Thread
      Reply #175: Jul 04, 2018 04:47:59 pm
      I would be thrilled if we moved for Yerry Mina this summer (If he becomes available for a reasonable price that is). I do really think that he alone could add 6-10 goals a season.

      Lovren played 29 caps in EPL and managed to score 2 and assist 1 last season. I do really think Mina would score closer to 10 and probably assist on a similar level over the course of a season. When it comes to his defensive abilities I think he probably is on the same level as Lovren but can improve a lot under the leadership of Klopp and by having VVD as his partner in crime.

      You must be joking Lovren is a far superior defender to Mina.

      A defenders job is to keep goals out scoring goals is only a bonus.
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      Reply #176: Jul 04, 2018 04:49:56 pm
      Have you seen him defend, he is awful.

      For the reported 11, 18 or 21 mil that Barca wants for his services (Depending on different sources) he would be a bargain at his age.
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      Reply #177: Jul 04, 2018 04:55:03 pm
      You must be joking Lovren is a far superior defender to Mina.

      A defenders job is to keep goals out scoring goals is only a bonus.
      My only concerns with Mina is that he sometimes put his team mates in trouble, by for example passing the ball back to a player that recently been pressed which makes it really hard for that player. However aside from that I do think he could contribute.

      I do agree with the last part. However let's agree to disagree. I do think Mina has potential and could grow rapidly with better players around him.
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      Reply #178: Jul 04, 2018 06:14:02 pm
      I don’t see it.

      Can’t imagine he’d thrive in a high line like ours.

      Comfortable on the ball and better in the air think he would do just fine
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      Reply #179: Jul 04, 2018 06:20:37 pm
      Comfortable on the ball and better in the air think he would do just fine

      Too flat footed and struggles against pace and mobility
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      Reply #180: Jul 04, 2018 06:28:31 pm
      Too flat footed and struggles against pace and mobility

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      Reply #181: Jul 04, 2018 08:00:06 pm
      Harry Maguire turning into a monster of CB would be perfect for VVD far better than Lovren

      To slow for me, he's going to get pressed hard against Sweden and I fear for us because of that.
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      Reply #182: Jul 04, 2018 08:13:39 pm
      To slow for me, he's going to get pressed hard against Sweden and I fear for us because of that.

      Not as if he's playing against particularly fast players though, Toivonen and Berg are so unimpressive
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      Reply #183: Jul 04, 2018 08:16:41 pm
      Have you seen him defend, he is awful.


      Really? When exactly was he awful?
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      Reply #184: Jul 04, 2018 08:19:20 pm
      Really? When exactly was he awful?

      Throughout the WC, seems to have zero positional sense or awareness around him.
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      Reply #185: Jul 04, 2018 08:23:28 pm
      Not as if he's playing against particularly fast players though, Toivonen and Berg are so unimpressive

      Wouldn't get any CB on the basis of international form as the game is so slow and majority don't play a high line, was it mexico that had a 40 year old at the back and he seemed ok. MAGUIRE and STONES frighten the hell out of me both think they are Messi when they are both ponderous on the ball, and neither the quickest if they get caught out or play a poor pass getting the team in trouble.

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      Reply #186: Jul 04, 2018 09:35:44 pm
      To slow for me, he's going to get pressed hard against Sweden and I fear for us because of that.

      Pressed by who Jesus H my nans faster than Berg and she's been dead 12 year
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      Reply #187: Jul 04, 2018 09:38:54 pm
      Pressed by who Jesus H my nans faster than Berg and she's been dead 12 year

      Iys not just one their front line hunt together it's going to be a tricky game.
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      Reply #188: Jul 05, 2018 01:39:45 am
      I get the same vibe from Mina as I did from Mangala when he was at Porto. You'd catch bits and pieces of him and think wow, but over a whole season the consistency just isn't there.

      We all know Lovren and Mangala are prone to brain snaps in judgement, I fear Mina is too. Our ideal CB to partner Van Dijk eventually should not be these boom or bust style players but those with solid traits and consistency. Someone prone to good judgement haha. We don't need big plays just no big mistakes. I'd go get someone like Ake before exploring a Mina or even Maguire.
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      Reply #189: Jul 05, 2018 10:38:04 am
      Throughout the WC, seems to have zero positional sense or awareness around him.

      Well ok then, it seemed to me that Colombia restricted all of their opponents to very few chances when Mina started
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      Reply #190: Jul 05, 2018 11:16:19 am
      Call me crazy but...

      Has anyone really had a 'great' world cup. I've not been completely impressed with anyone in particular.

      Lots of people having good tournaments, but no one having a life changing performance like James Rodriquez or others before him.
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      Reply #191: Jul 06, 2018 06:15:33 pm
      See Tommo echoes my thoughts  on Maguire says quicker than you think and comfortable on ball and good in air
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      Reply #192: Jul 06, 2018 08:07:31 pm
      Call me crazy but...

      Has anyone really had a 'great' world cup. I've not been completely impressed with anyone in particular.

      Lots of people having good tournaments, but no one having a life changing performance like James Rodriquez or others before him.

      I understand this sentiment. I've kind of enjoyed the predominantly competitive matches to a degree. It's been good seeing most of the "minnows" either being very organised or determined (or both).

      But the big countries as a collective have been grossly disappointing. None have been remotely close to top gear for more than small fractions of a handful of games. Many have just been awful. But if you want world class football, one must watch the club game, not international, where good teams actually press the ball, and the tempo can be exhilirating.

      Brazil have been ordinary this WC but still were kind of understandably favourites because no one has been firing. Hopefully Bobby coming on second half will fire them up!
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      Reply #193: Jul 06, 2018 09:21:02 pm
      I understand this sentiment. I've kind of enjoyed the predominantly competitive matches to a degree. It's been good seeing most of the "minnows" either being very organised or determined (or both).

      But the big countries as a collective have been grossly disappointing. None have been remotely close to top gear for more than small fractions of a handful of games. Many have just been awful. But if you want world class football, one must watch the club game, not international, where good teams actually press the ball, and the tempo can be exhilirating.

      Brazil have been ordinary this WC but still were kind of understandably favourites because no one has been firing. Hopefully Bobby coming on second half will fire them up!

      Bobby was poor to be fair lost possession on numerous occasions very sloppy
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      Reply #194: Jul 06, 2018 10:44:04 pm
      Call me crazy but...

      Has anyone really had a 'great' world cup. I've not been completely impressed with anyone in particular.

      Lots of people having good tournaments, but no one having a life changing performance like James Rodriquez or others before him.

      I agree, none has been super stand out as James R and others before him in terms of creating chances, scoring and contributing to goals.

      However in my book the players below have surprised me during this WC and been performing better then I expected. Obviously I could probably add 10-15 more names but these I came up with straight away.

      Lozano - Mex
      Granqvist - Swe
      Mina - Col
      Mbappe - Fra
      Hyeon-woo - Kor
      Musa - Nig
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      Re: World Cup Scouting Thread
      Reply #195: Jul 07, 2018 07:18:17 pm
      Anybody knows someone who works at the club? Please call them and just scream ''sign Rebic!!!! a couple of times and then hang up. Do this until the transfer window closes, please.
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      Reply #196: Jul 07, 2018 07:35:46 pm
      Call me crazy but...

      Has anyone really had a 'great' world cup. I've not been completely impressed with anyone in particular.

      Lots of people having good tournaments, but no one having a life changing performance like James Rodriquez or others before him.

      Mbappe ?
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      Reply #197: Jul 07, 2018 09:51:52 pm
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      Reply #198: Jul 07, 2018 09:54:49 pm
      Can we get Subasic as our new goalkeeper please?
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      Reply #199: Jul 08, 2018 09:46:04 am
      Can we get Subasic as our new goalkeeper please?

      He is gonna be 34. A bit to old for me, though he has a relly good wc so far.

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