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      heimdall
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      Re: New Goalkeeper Thread?
      Reply #100: Jul 13, 2018 02:57:19 pm
      I guess they were only sh*t for the finals then?

      No just more sh*t in the finals.
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      Reply #101: Jul 13, 2018 03:14:44 pm
      No just more sh*t in the finals.

      You get yourself too wound up by it all. Window is still open, world cup isn't finished.
      There's more going on than you know and you need to learn to try to read between the lines of things that are released and look at the quotes from a different angle

      Loads of time yet, stop getting yourself all wound up it does you no favours
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      Reply #102: Jul 13, 2018 04:15:12 pm
      Klopp has lost 8 out of 9 cup finals so far in his managerial career and had sh*t keepers for the lot.

      Coincidence?

      It’s definitely one area he seems very reluctant to significantly strengthen.
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      Reply #103: Jul 13, 2018 06:54:33 pm
      You get yourself too wound up by it all. Window is still open, world cup isn't finished.
      There's more going on than you know and you need to learn to try to read between the lines of things that are released and look at the quotes from a different angle

      Loads of time yet, stop getting yourself all wound up it does you no favours

      I really hope you are right.
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      Reply #104: Jul 13, 2018 07:01:11 pm
      You get yourself too wound up by it all. Window is still open, world cup isn't finished.
      There's more going on than you know and you need to learn to try to read between the lines of things that are released and look at the quotes from a different angle

      Loads of time yet, stop getting yourself all wound up it does you no favours

      Didn't all the usual reliable faces say klopp was sticking with Karius about a week ago though?

      Worrying if true
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      Reply #105: Jul 13, 2018 07:20:01 pm
      Didn't all the usual reliable faces say klopp was sticking with Karius about a week ago though?

      Worrying if true

      But this is what I mean mate

      The whole 'club insiders' thing seems to have slowed to a halt over the last couple of years, none of them had a clue about Virgil or Fabinho before they were pretty much through the door

      So my take on them now being used to peddle the story on first Karius being number 1 and bow Ward being given a shot at number 1 strikes me more of us using them to get stories out in the press that we aren't desperate for a keeper and we are relaxed and happy.
      Basically to counter the constant talk from agents and clubs regarding other keepers in an attempt to take advantage of our 'desperate need' for a new number one

      How many times have we read this summer Roma being mentioned in leaking prices for Alisson? Last week or so something was said along the lines of
      £65m for Alisson? Liverpool can have him for that

      So for me we are just killing the stories and the desperation in the press in order to not be taken to the cleaners on price and the club are using these 'trusted journos' to put that out there for them

      It's all part of the negotiation game for me

      I'm very relaxed, I believe we will defo bring a new keeper in, we just don't want the world to know our desperation... to feed off the Karius champions league final performance and roast us for cash
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      Reply #106: Jul 14, 2018 06:39:46 pm
      Is Yann Sommer not being talked about as being shopped around? Very impressed with him this WC.
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      Reply #107: Jul 14, 2018 08:06:53 pm
      Is Yann Sommer not being talked about as being shopped around? Very impressed with him this WC.

      I think he joined Dortmund couple of weeks ago?

      Edit: nevermind, it was Marwin Hitz!!!
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      Reply #108: Jul 14, 2018 08:32:42 pm
      Don't get me wrong, not having a dig at Klopp.. but I think if he doesn't get a new keeper and Ward and Karius don't perform.. I don't know if he will be here for 2019-2020. No manager has a free reign to ignore the goalkeeping area. It's vital Klopp atleast has a go at trying to get a new keeper, because if we lose another final in the same fashion as the last one it will be indefensible.
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      Reply #109: Jul 15, 2018 02:21:24 am
      Don't get me wrong, not having a dig at Klopp.. but I think if he doesn't get a new keeper and Ward and Karius don't perform.. I don't know if he will be here for 2019-2020. No manager has a free reign to ignore the goalkeeping area. It's vital Klopp atleast has a go at trying to get a new keeper, because if we lose another final in the same fashion as the last one it will be indefensible.

      It's difficult to argue with this.

      We've progressed under jurgen no question and we're still moving in the right direction under his leadership but his loyality to certain players and his belief that he can polish every single turd is rather irritating.

      This is his fourth season with us now and is this his sixth transfer window? If we still have goalkeeping problems next season then he is solely responsible.
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      Reply #110: Jul 15, 2018 02:23:15 am
      Don't get me wrong, not having a dig at Klopp.. but I think if he doesn't get a new keeper and Ward and Karius don't perform.. I don't know if he will be here for 2019-2020. No manager has a free reign to ignore the goalkeeping area. It's vital Klopp atleast has a go at trying to get a new keeper, because if we lose another final in the same fashion as the last one it will be indefensible.

      I'm a massive Klopp fan, but (unlike many here) I'm also an objective one. But goalkeeping disasters won't get Klopp fired if we're still playing scintillating football and closer to winning the title than last season. No other manager is going to get our squad closer to Pep's, so who would we replace him with?

      If such a disaster as you describe eventuated, clearly club ownership wouldn't have to twist Klopp's arm to bring in a worthy keeper. And if we play like we did last season, we'll have more world class keepers (or at least potential ones), more keen to join us challenging for titles.
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      Reply #111: Jul 15, 2018 02:27:24 am
      The overreactions going on are quite amusing.
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      Reply #112: Jul 15, 2018 02:44:30 am
      The overreactions going on are quite amusing.

      I think tedious or ignorant might be the words you are searching for.
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      Reply #113: Jul 15, 2018 07:47:14 am
      Well said, a goalkeeper is to stop shots a
      Hello, this is my first post, Goalkeepers!! as a red since 1964, I have seen some great keepers at our club.
      So despite our managers support and loyalty to L K. for me he is just not good enough.

      JK has said he wants to win trophies, sorry JK you wont win with a dodgy keeper if you were willing to wait and spend 75m for V.V.D, how is he going to feel along with his fellow defenders in the new season knowing Karius is behind them, so far only Fabino has been bought for 43m a bargin, its what we have needed for a long time a strong defensive midfielder, come on Jürgen, you must know deep down that we cant afford Karius in goal, maybe you feel sympathy for him as a fellow countryman,but that will not be professional, and he knows it, he is quoted as saying no other keepers have impressed, is that a serious comment. oblak is 25 the worlds best 88m release fee,

      go get him before its too late, with him in goal, to go with all our talent, what a Team we would be,

      premier league and champions league would be in our sites and the money earned would pay off the 88m in double time. So are F.S.G. really serious to make us a top class sucessful Club, or a good one that can make them a regular profit. best regards Peter red in all. 





      Well said, a goalkeeper is to stop shots and avoid conceding goals. if a goalkeeper can;t do such a basic thing required of a goalkeeper but instead helping the ball into our goal time and again, what's the point of having a goalkeeper? I would think differently, it's better for Karius to go now as things will heal with time, otherwise  he will be under the microscope from now on, and every mistake he makes will be greatly be magnified and it will only damage his confidence further while I don;t see him being a top class keeper in the very near future and it' will probably going  to cost us dearly again at those crucial games. How about team spirit? Have all the players forgiven Karius or that they are still cursing him silently for the mistakes in the CL final. Or are they playing under silent protest that will affect their spirit and teamwork? Karius is simply not ready for the world stage, he's at best a rookie at the moment. I would think get an experience keeper in and let Karius be the backup and learn from the more experience goalkeeper.
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      Reply #114: Jul 15, 2018 10:24:04 am
      The overreactions going on are quite amusing.

      Are you sure you aren't a fan of an opponent and a massive WUM, why else would you want us to continue with a crap keeper.
      I'm glad you find it so amusing though.
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      Reply #115: Jul 15, 2018 11:15:20 am
      Dudek made so many mistakes, and mistakes against our arch rivals. Wouldn't call him a top keeper at all.
      And what did you think of him after the 2005
      CL final...?
      « Last Edit: Jul 15, 2018 11:09:34 pm by The Real Donavan Ried »
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      Reply #116: Jul 15, 2018 11:53:15 am
      Klopp has lost 8 out of 9 cup finals so far in his managerial career and had sh*t keepers for the lot.

      Coincidence?
      It is the reason, can't win a final with a sh*te keeper.
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      Reply #117: Jul 15, 2018 02:04:00 pm
      Damn Madrid didn't bite for Allison, and now look likely to secure Courtois for a relative cheap 30 mil or so this year, or for free next year. I wouldn't be surprised to see both Courtois AND Hazard bundled together to make a combined fee work for both teams.

      Considering I (and a number of others don't really want Allison, especially for a higher fee than that), where does that leave us in the keeper merry-go-round?

      Now we'll be competing with Chelsea (and the apparent lure of London) for potential top keepers, because there surely is NO WAY they're starting their own Karius in Caballero!

      And it's not like one of the two potentially surplus experienced Madrid keepers would be a definite upgrade over Karius (although it's getting to the point where I'd happily take a punt on loaning the kid, Lunin, at this stage, he at least has potential haha).
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      Reply #118: Jul 15, 2018 02:58:18 pm
      The overreactions going on are quite amusing.

      That’s just your perception fella. I think the frustration for many (certainly for me) is realising that this team could do something really special but knowing that the goal keeper situation (ie. sticking with what we’ve got) jeapodises that.
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      Reply #119: Jul 15, 2018 03:00:07 pm
      That’s just your perception fella. I think the frustration for many (certainly for me) is realising that this team could do something really special but knowing that the goal keeper situation (ie. sticking with what we’ve got) jeapodises that.

      Have I been to sleep for a month? I hope not as I'll have missed my holiday but I didnt realise the transfer window had shut
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      Reply #120: Jul 15, 2018 03:05:40 pm
      Damn Madrid didn't bite for Allison, and now look likely to secure Courtois for a relative cheap 30 mil or so this year, or for free next year. I wouldn't be surprised to see both Courtois AND Hazard bundled together to make a combined fee work for both teams.

      Considering I (and a number of others don't really want Allison, especially for a higher fee than that), where does that leave us in the keeper merry-go-round?

      Now we'll be competing with Chelsea (and the apparent lure of London) for potential top keepers, because there surely is NO WAY they're starting their own Karius in Caballero!

      And it's not like one of the two potentially surplus experienced Madrid keepers would be a definite upgrade over Karius (although it's getting to the point where I'd happily take a punt on loaning the kid, Lunin, at this stage, he at least has potential haha).

      Alisson is a good keeper and miles better than what we have so we need to act fast to get him even if it costs over £60 million there are very few top keepers available.
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      Reply #121: Jul 15, 2018 04:49:12 pm
      Less than a month to go mate. We’ve generally got our business done pretty early under Klopp. I guess we’ll see over the next couple of weeks if s new GK really is on the cards or not. Or we could just shut the transfer window thread down and talk about it once it’s done.
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      Reply #122: Jul 15, 2018 05:03:51 pm
      Less than a month to go mate. We’ve generally got our business done pretty early under Klopp. I guess we’ll see over the next couple of weeks if s new GK really is on the cards or not. Or we could just shut the transfer window thread down and talk about it once it’s done.

      It's been a world cup year so early deals are harder

      Talk all you like.. moan less though would be good
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      Reply #123: Jul 15, 2018 06:27:55 pm
      Courtois got the WC Golden Glove.
      That's a few bob on his transfer fee...
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      Reply #124: Jul 15, 2018 06:28:39 pm
      Courtois got the WC Golden Glove.
      That's a few bob on his transfer fee...

      Doubt it.. he's out of contract in 12 months

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