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      heimdall
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      Re: New Goalkeeper Thread?
      Reply #30: Jun 23, 2018 09:58:03 am

      So its Allison or no one then? This sounds like a familiar story :-(
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      Re: New Goalkeeper Thread?
      Reply #31: Jun 23, 2018 11:02:57 am
      Any goalkeeper coming to Liverpool will be under intense pressure to succeed and any mistake will be magnified many times by the pundits. At the end of last season the "experts" had stopped talking about our defence and our goalkeeper as they played really well in the EPL.
      We watched DeGea make a howler the other day not better not worse than Karius but he would save that 999 time out of 1000.
      We need to let Jürgen get on with it this constant clamour to buy the most expensive goalkeeper in the world isn't going to happen whilst we have Jürgen as manager.
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      Reply #32: Jun 23, 2018 03:26:25 pm
      Any goalkeeper coming to Liverpool will be under intense pressure to succeed and any mistake will be magnified many times by the pundits. At the end of last season the "experts" had stopped talking about our defence and our goalkeeper as they played really well in the EPL.
      We watched DeGea make a howler the other day not better not worse than Karius but he would save that 999 time out of 1000.
      We need to let Jürgen get on with it this constant clamour to buy the most expensive goalkeeper in the world isn't going to happen whilst we have Jürgen as manager.


      Really, did De Gea throw the ball to an attacker 1 metre away from him, I must have missed that, How about trying to punch a ball coming form 50 yards out? there is a HUGE difference between de Gea's fumble and the f**k ups Karius made and makes.
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      Reply #33: Jun 23, 2018 03:53:30 pm
      Really, did De Gea throw the ball to an attacker 1 metre away from him, I must have missed that, How about trying to punch a ball coming form 50 yards out? there is a HUGE difference between de Gea's fumble and the f**k ups Karius made and makes.

      No, he just made a howler on the biggest stage in world football. As for Karius, how many times has he done that? How many times has Karius pulled us out of the fire with a brilliant save in the last six months? The two are worlds apart. Keepers make mistakes. If Karius had come in straight after Reina people would be more tolerant but tolerance has been worn away after four years of Mignolet. If we can upgrade on Karius we should, not because he made a mistake, but because we're getting an upgrade, the same way we should upgrade on any player. But upgrading does not equate to a flawless keeper coming in that will never make a mistake, including inexplicably chucking the ball on to an opposition Striker's foot. Sh*t happens, accept that and judge Karius - or whomever might come in - by what they do over the course of a season rather than in one match.

      At the end of the day it's Jürgen's decision, not yours, and if his decision is to keep the faith with Karius then you need to get behind the lad because this "ooohing and arring" every time the ball comes to him isn't helpful to his confidence and destroying our own Keeper's confidence is self defeating. We're supporters, let's support for once.
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      Re: New Goalkeeper Thread?
      Reply #34: Jun 27, 2018 05:50:10 pm
      Cho hyun-woo to replace Simon?
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      Reply #35: Jul 05, 2018 02:43:07 pm
      Apologies if this has been discussed recently, I haven't been on the forum much of late.

      I saw yesterday from the echo and Pearce I think that klopp is going to persist with Karius next season.

      I've got to say if that's true then I'm bitterly disappointed. The goalkeeping position should be our top priority this summer. It has been a major issue for almost a decade now.

      Despite his shocker in the final, Karius is a big upgrade on Mignolet and he doesn't bring anywhere near the amount of chaos that Simon does, but the fact remains he choked in the biggest game of his career and when it mattered most. He was a huge reason why we don't have six European cups.

      Would anybody be confident of going into big matches next season with him in goal? Another cup final? A title decider perhaps?.  More importantly, will Karius be confident in himself? He is under huge pressure now and any slight mistake the Kop will be all over him.

      I understand not wasting or spending money for the sake of it. If you offered me Karius for the season on 40m for butland then I'd stick with Karius because the upgrade is very little, if there is an upgrade at all. 

      But surely there is a big upgrade on what we have which we can comfortably afford.

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      Reply #36: Jul 05, 2018 03:40:02 pm
      Apologies if this has been discussed recently, I haven't been on the forum much of late.

      I saw yesterday from the echo and Pearce I think that klopp is going to persist with Karius next season.

      I've got to say if that's true then I'm bitterly disappointed. The goalkeeping position should be our top priority this summer. It has been a major issue for almost a decade now.

      Despite his shocker in the final, Karius is a big upgrade on Mignolet and he doesn't bring anywhere near the amount of chaos that Simon does, but the fact remains he choked in the biggest game of his career and when it mattered most. He was a huge reason why we don't have six European cups.

      Would anybody be confident of going into big matches next season with him in goal? Another cup final? A title decider perhaps?.  More importantly, will Karius be confident in himself? He is under huge pressure now and any slight mistake the Kop will be all over him.

      I understand not wasting or spending money for the sake of it. If you offered me Karius for the season on 40m for butland then I'd stick with Karius because the upgrade is very little, if there is an upgrade at all. 

      But surely there is a big upgrade on what we have which we can comfortably afford.



      I agree, I will also be extremely disappointed if we don't upgrade on Karius and start the season with him between the sticks.
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      Re: New Goalkeeper Thread?
      Reply #37: Jul 05, 2018 03:46:35 pm
      Apologies if this has been discussed recently, I haven't been on the forum much of late.

      I saw yesterday from the echo and Pearce I think that klopp is going to persist with Karius next season.

      I've got to say if that's true then I'm bitterly disappointed. The goalkeeping position should be our top priority this summer. It has been a major issue for almost a decade now.

      Despite his shocker in the final, Karius is a big upgrade on Mignolet and he doesn't bring anywhere near the amount of chaos that Simon does, but the fact remains he choked in the biggest game of his career and when it mattered most. He was a huge reason why we don't have six European cups.

      Would anybody be confident of going into big matches next season with him in goal? Another cup final? A title decider perhaps?.  More importantly, will Karius be confident in himself? He is under huge pressure now and any slight mistake the Kop will be all over him.

      I understand not wasting or spending money for the sake of it. If you offered me Karius for the season on 40m for butland then I'd stick with Karius because the upgrade is very little, if there is an upgrade at all. 

      But surely there is a big upgrade on what we have which we can comfortably afford.


      I’d be much more confident going into a final with Karius and Mo than some other keeper (Allison, Oblak) and no Mo.

      So if we can sign someone to provide quality cover for Mo, I’m ok with Karius as #1 with the caveat that he bounces back.

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      Reply #38: Jul 05, 2018 03:51:40 pm
      I’d be much more confident going into a final with Karius and Mo than some other keeper (Allison, Oblak) and no Mo.

      So if we can sign someone to provide quality cover for Mo, I’m ok with Karius as #1 with the caveat that he bounces back.

      We can't go into every game with the mentality of out scoring our opponents though. Isn't that what ultimately cost us the title with Brendan?

      Our keeper will be tested several times during the season and they will be under huge pressure to perform, even more so after what happened in Kiev.

      I think it's essential that we bring a keeper in and if Allison and oblak aren't in our budget then look elsewhere. There must be somebody somewhere who we can afford who is a big upgrade on what we have.

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      Reply #39: Jul 05, 2018 03:52:40 pm
      Jürgen has never put much value in to goalkeepers.

      And that could be the reason he has never won a European cup final.

      I hoped he had changed his mindset but if he sticks with Karius then clearly he has not.
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      Reply #40: Jul 05, 2018 04:14:37 pm
      Jürgen has never put much value in to goalkeepers.

      And that could be the reason he has never won a European cup final.

      I hoped he had changed his mindset but if he sticks with Karius then clearly he has not.

      Yea, that Dudek guy was an amazing goalkeeper....
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      Reply #41: Jul 05, 2018 04:20:47 pm
      We can't go into every game with the mentality of out scoring our opponents though. Isn't that what ultimately cost us the title with Brendan?

      Our keeper will be tested several times during the season and they will be under huge pressure to perform, even more so after what happened in Kiev.

      I think it's essential that we bring a keeper in and if Allison and oblak aren't in our budget then look elsewhere. There must be somebody somewhere who we can afford who is a big upgrade on what we have.



      I thought Karius did pretty well for the most part, but unfortunately he had a clanger of all clangers at the worst possible time. I do think there may have been some extenuating circumstances (the possible concussion) and the pressure was certainly ramped up when Mo went off. With Mo still on the pitch, I think that game plays out much differently and everyone is happy with Karius. I think perspective is needed and I've a feeling that's why Jürgen isn't ready to just toss him out. We may not outscore every team, but in those games where our defense doesn't hold up, I'd certainly like to have as many scoring options as possible at our disposal.
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      Reply #42: Jul 05, 2018 05:22:12 pm
      Yea, that Dudek guy was an amazing goalkeeper....

      Id argue that Dudek was better than Karius, its astonishing how dumbed down we have become after years of Migs.
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      Reply #43: Jul 05, 2018 06:02:45 pm
      Id argue that Dudek was better than Karius, its astonishing how dumbed down we have become after years of Migs.
      Didn't like any goalkeeper we had since Dudek really, not even Reina. Karius was starting to grow on me until the CL final. I am not sure how much was concussion though. Karius career probably got Ramosed.
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      Reply #44: Jul 05, 2018 06:13:36 pm
      Id argue that Dudek was better than Karius, its astonishing how dumbed down we have become after years of Migs.

      I agree,if we don’t get another goalkeeper we ain’t winning anything again
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      Reply #45: Jul 05, 2018 06:32:07 pm
      Id argue that Dudek was better than Karius, its astonishing how dumbed down we have become after years of Migs.

      Quick, which goalie would you prefer going with the following season after having these numbers the previous one:

      Goalie A: 19 games started, 14 goals against, 10 clean sheets
      Goalie B: 24 games started, 23 goals against, 5 clean sheets

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      Reply #46: Jul 05, 2018 06:37:06 pm
      Didn't like any goalkeeper we had since Dudek really, not even Reina. Karius was starting to grow on me until the CL final. I am not sure how much was concussion though. Karius career probably got Ramosed.

      Dudek made so many mistakes, and mistakes against our arch rivals. Wouldn't call him a top keeper at all.
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      Reply #47: Jul 05, 2018 07:07:17 pm
      Quick, which goalie would you prefer going with the following season after having these numbers the previous one:

      Goalie A: 19 games started, 14 goals against, 10 clean sheets
      Goalie B: 24 games started, 23 goals against, 5 clean sheets
      Shot to save ratio is the most important stat, so it is impossible to say.
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      Reply #48: Jul 05, 2018 07:11:02 pm
      Shot to save ratio is the most important stat, so it is impossible to say.

      I got a better question for you, which one of these women is the most attractive and has the better genes:

      Woman A: Blonde, Medium (Body), Tall (Height), Men & Female slept with 1
      Woman B: Brunette, Slim (Body), Short (Height) Men & Female slept with 11
      Woman C: Ginger, Slim (Body), Medium (Height) Men & Female slept with 4

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      Reply #49: Jul 05, 2018 09:09:27 pm
      Quick, which goalie would you prefer going with the following season after having these numbers the previous one:

      Goalie A: 19 games started, 14 goals against, 10 clean sheets
      Goalie B: 24 games started, 23 goals against, 5 clean sheets



      Depends who had Djimi Traore as one of his defenders ;-)
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      Reply #50: Jul 05, 2018 09:20:12 pm
      I got a better question for you, which one of these women is the most attractive and has the better genes:

      Woman A: Blonde, Medium (Body), Tall (Height), Men & Female slept with 1
      Woman B: Brunette, Slim (Body), Short (Height) Men & Female slept with 11
      Woman C: Ginger, Slim (Body), Medium (Height) Men & Female slept with 4



      Blind Date's gone downhill since it's return on Channel 5!
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      Reply #51: Jul 05, 2018 11:02:22 pm
      I got a better question for you, which one of these women is the most attractive and has the better genes:

      Woman A: Blonde, Medium (Body), Tall (Height), Men & Female slept with 1
      Woman B: Brunette, Slim (Body), Short (Height) Men & Female slept with 11
      Woman C: Ginger, Slim (Body), Medium (Height) Men & Female slept with 4



      Ha ha what the f**k are you on about Purp?

      :D
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      Reply #52: Jul 06, 2018 07:42:27 am
      Ha ha what the f**k are you on about Purp?

      :D

      Clearly he is saying that selective stats don't necessarily paint the whole picture. Ok maybe not clearly hahaha but that's what he is saying.

      Nonetheless, could I please be introduced to Woman B. She may not be a keeper, but we're not all in desperate need of acquiring keepers here...
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      Reply #53: Jul 06, 2018 07:43:25 am
      Ha ha what the f**k are you on about Purp?

      :D


      I'm not sure truth be told

      However I think I'd try to f**k A B and  C

      All seem sound to me
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      Reply #54: Jul 06, 2018 05:54:46 pm
      Hello, this is my first post, Goalkeepers!! as a red since 1964, I have seen some great keepers at our club.
      So despite our managers support and loyalty to L K. for me he is just not good enough.

      JK has said he wants to win trophies, sorry JK you wont win with a dodgy keeper if you were willing to wait and spend 75m for V.V.D, how is he going to feel along with his fellow defenders in the new season knowing Karius is behind them, so far only Fabino has been bought for 43m a bargin, its what we have needed for a long time a strong defensive midfielder, come on Jürgen, you must know deep down that we cant afford Karius in goal, maybe you feel sympathy for him as a fellow countryman,but that will not be professional, and he knows it, he is quoted as saying no other keepers have impressed, is that a serious comment. oblak is 25 the worlds best 88m release fee,

      go get him before its too late, with him in goal, to go with all our talent, what a Team we would be,

      premier league and champions league would be in our sites and the money earned would pay off the 88m in double time. So are F.S.G. really serious to make us a top class sucessful Club, or a good one that can make them a regular profit. best regards Peter red in all. 



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      Reply #55: Jul 06, 2018 06:46:16 pm
      Hello, this is my first post, Goalkeepers!! as a red since 1964, I have seen some great keepers at our club.
      So despite our managers support and loyalty to L K. for me he is just not good enough.

      JK has said he wants to win trophies, sorry JK you wont win with a dodgy keeper if you were willing to wait and spend 75m for V.V.D, how is he going to feel along with his fellow defenders in the new season knowing Karius is behind them, so far only Fabino has been bought for 43m a bargin, its what we have needed for a long time a strong defensive midfielder, come on Jürgen, you must know deep down that we cant afford Karius in goal, maybe you feel sympathy for him as a fellow countryman,but that will not be professional, and he knows it, he is quoted as saying no other keepers have impressed, is that a serious comment. oblak is 25 the worlds best 88m release fee,

      go get him before its too late, with him in goal, to go with all our talent, what a Team we would be,

      premier league and champions league would be in our sites and the money earned would pay off the 88m in double time. So are F.S.G. really serious to make us a top class sucessful Club, or a good one that can make them a regular profit. best regards Peter red in all. 





      100% agree and a great first post, welcome.
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      Re: New Goalkeeper Thread?
      Reply #56: Jul 10, 2018 09:06:00 pm
      Karius another shocker tonight. Also just seen something in Twitter showing background before friendly last week couldn't even hold a shot in warm up going to be a massive risk not signing anyone else
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      Reply #57: Jul 10, 2018 09:10:30 pm
      Klopps get out of jail card is Mignolet. I dont think he wants to be our number 2. Klopp can replace Mignolet and hide behind the new competition for Karius line.

      Migs out and a replacement brought in. It will probably be a cheap one but every chance whoever that may be could be an upgrade on what we have.
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      Reply #58: Jul 10, 2018 09:13:25 pm
      He needs to leave, he wasn't good enough anyway and it's just cruel on him, and disasterous for the club, to pretend he can get back to the level we need.

      Imagine when, and it will be when, he does that in a game that matters...
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      Reply #59: Jul 10, 2018 09:16:35 pm
      Need to take him out the firing line again really. Not doing anyone any good at the moment.

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