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      News Stories July 2018
      Jul 02, 2018 05:02:49 pm
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      Reply #1: Jul 02, 2018 05:20:04 pm
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      Reply #3: Jul 02, 2018 07:42:55 pm
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      Reply #4: Jul 02, 2018 10:06:00 pm
      Wow what a great end to a terrible ordeal for all of them their families must be overcome with joy.
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      Reply #5: Jul 03, 2018 03:26:18 pm
      Liverpool and Croatia player Dejan Lovren had social media hacked

      Croatian World Cup footballer Dejan Lovren had his social media accounts hacked by a fan living in the Scottish Borders, a court has heard.

      Some of the Liverpool defender's family photos and an image of his identity card were found on the computer of Peter Doswell, 22, of Selkirk.

      He admitted committing the offence at his home in April last year.

      Doswell was ordered to carry out 225 hours unpaid work and put under supervision for 27 months.

      Selkirk Sheriff Court heard how the Liverpool fan had accessed the private contact details of Lovren's Liverpool teammates Adam Lallana and Emre Can.

      He had then sent messages on their personal social media accounts and mobile phones asking them questions.

      Doswell pleaded guilty to knowingly causing a computer to perform a function with intent to secure unauthorised access to a program or data held on a computer.

      His lawyer Mark Harrower described it as an "unusual case" and said his client was "not an experienced hacker."

      He suggested a third party was involved given the level of expertise required but that Doswell had gone along with it and had carried out some of the actions himself.

      An examination of Doswell's computer by Police Scotland's cyber crime unit found 155 video folders featuring Lovren and his family, eight text documents relating to Lovren's purchase of a property in London and a club letter from Liverpool - information that would not be publicly available.

      Doswell's laptop contained details of phishing and software used to hack email accounts.

      The court heard that it was after he contacted Can that the German had informed team manager Jürgen Klopp and at the same time Lovren realised his Facebook page had been compromised.

      Merseyside Police were informed and Police Scotland contacted when all the evidence was traced to Doswell's home in Selkirk.

      Mr Harrower admitted his client was guilty of a "huge intrusion" but added that the guilty plea had avoided the need for the Liverpool players to give evidence at a trial.

      Sheriff Mark Thorley told Doswell it was a "serious offence".

      As an alternative to prison he was placed under supervision with a conduct requirement restricting his use of the internet and ordered to carry out unpaid work as part of a community payback order.

      Lovren has played in all four of Croatia's World Cup matches in Russia and is due to line-up against the host nation in the quarter finals this Saturday.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-44695792
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      Reply #6: Jul 03, 2018 10:42:54 pm
      Another Nurse killing babies..

      Horrible b***ard.
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      Reply #7: Jul 05, 2018 05:32:04 pm
      Another Nurse killing babies..

      Horrible b***ard.

      Another?
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      Reply #8: Jul 05, 2018 05:39:01 pm



      Beverley Allitt... 'Angel of Death'..
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      Reply #9: Jul 05, 2018 06:13:43 pm

      That was in 1991. 27yrs ago, so 'another' is a little over the top.
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      Reply #10: Jul 06, 2018 10:13:28 pm
      That was in 1991. 27yrs ago, so 'another' is a little over the top.

      released on bail so innocent until proven guilty springs to mind.
      Meanwhile our hopes of a speedy rescue for those boys trapped underground may have been a bit hasty.
      Lets hope conditions remain favourable for them to be rescued and its reported one Diver has already died helping them
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      Reply #11: Jul 08, 2018 01:11:32 pm
      First boys 'rescued from Thailand cave'

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44757804

      Fingers crossed all goes well.
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      Reply #12: Jul 09, 2018 03:21:19 am
      Eight and the coach to go. Hope it all goes well. What a task, though.

      And let's be honest, this certainly isn't the first time that people have been hoping for a happy ending in Thailand...

      Serious note, fingers crossed.
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      Reply #13: Jul 09, 2018 03:02:01 pm
      Boris Johnson resigned.  Epic twunt.
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      Reply #14: Jul 09, 2018 03:03:07 pm
      Chaos setting in the Tory Party. First Davis, now that f**king idiot gobs***e Boris has resigned. Brexit's going to be such a f**king success under these wankers :laugh:
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      Reply #15: Jul 09, 2018 03:15:38 pm
      Danny dyer for pm, or barry chuckle
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      Reply #16: Jul 09, 2018 03:15:46 pm
      We need a new general election right now.
      This can't continue, Boris resigned has to be curtains for May.
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      Reply #17: Jul 09, 2018 03:22:28 pm
      Blue on Blue again... ;D

      Tories are fu**ed..
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      Reply #18: Jul 09, 2018 03:23:16 pm
      Corbyn better hurry up and decide where he stands on brexit as he needs to take that splinter out of his ass
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      Reply #19: Jul 09, 2018 03:24:54 pm
      Corbyn better hurry up and decide where he stands on brexit as he needs to take that splinter out of his ass

      Brexiteer ...
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      Reply #20: Jul 09, 2018 03:25:29 pm
      Now is the time for Coybn to strike.
      Any competent party leader right now would push for a vote of no confidence.
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      Reply #21: Jul 09, 2018 03:28:36 pm
      Eight and the coach to go. Hope it all goes well. What a task, though.

      And let's be honest, this certainly isn't the first time that people have been hoping for a happy ending in Thailand...

      Serious note, fingers crossed.

      I saw the first video when they were found. The diver was British, was he a cave diver or SAS? I know that we supposedly sent over some of our Navy SEALs to act as advisors for the Thai SEALs but did you guys send SAS?
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      Reply #22: Jul 09, 2018 03:30:19 pm
      Running out of Brexiteers at the forefront of the government, think we will end up half in and half out of the EU, total f*ck up, they have had 2 f*cking years. Corbyn would be mad to want to take over now, right at the crunch of negotiations, May needs to go as she is not strong enough, has no majority and keeps changing her mind, she is bowing to the EU far too much. 
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      Reply #23: Jul 09, 2018 03:31:57 pm
      I saw the first video when they were found. The diver was British, was he a cave diver or SAS? I know that we supposedly sent over some of our Navy SEALs to act as advisors for the Thai SEALs but did you guys send SAS?

      The diver who died was Thai.
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      Reply #24: Jul 09, 2018 03:35:53 pm
      I saw the first video when they were found. The diver was British, was he a cave diver or SAS?

      Don't think he was military, no.  Just a diving expert - think there were two of them who found them.
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      Reply #25: Jul 09, 2018 03:42:21 pm
      This brexit shambles is the worst European campaign since everton in the europa league
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      Reply #26: Jul 09, 2018 03:48:46 pm

      Jürgen Klinnsman not offering up his services? :laugh:

      Just watching Maybot's speech in the Commons, lots of desperate looking faces on the tories.
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      Reply #27: Jul 09, 2018 03:49:01 pm

      He was Thai and it was reported that he was a member of a Thai Special Services unit.
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      Reply #28: Jul 09, 2018 03:51:58 pm
      I saw the first video when they were found. The diver was British, was he a cave diver or SAS? I know that we supposedly sent over some of our Navy SEALs to act as advisors for the Thai SEALs but did you guys send SAS?

      Due to military cuts we also sent a team of seals but once the fish ran out they swam off somewhere else
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      Reply #29: Jul 09, 2018 03:58:15 pm
      What an absolute shame the Tories are imploding 😉

      Slow on the uptake them lot though..  how has it taken them a couple of years to fall out and work out they're all cu*ts
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      Reply #31: Jul 09, 2018 04:03:46 pm

      Got something go watch on telly now till the semi's...
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      Reply #32: Jul 09, 2018 04:07:24 pm
      If that is true then I can imagine Tories losing 10% of voters to thin air.
      The won't switch to labour, but they will abstain.
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      Reply #33: Jul 09, 2018 04:08:20 pm
      Due to military cuts we also sent a team of seals but once the fish ran out they swam off somewhere else

      That is such an awful joke, its actually funny!
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      Reply #34: Jul 09, 2018 04:09:44 pm
      Jürgen Klinnsman not offering up his services? :laugh:

      Just watching Maybot's speech in the Commons, lots of desperate looking faces on the tories.


      This is chaos for the fuckers, they can't lie in harmony.
      The remain camp see that option as the best choice for the Tories remaining in power, the leave group want no more direct rule from Brussels with it's woefully out of touch implications.
      No matter what the Tory PR story is the Brussels police state is out there as large as life and it's not just diehard Tory nationalists who are increasingly concerned about it's all powerful hold on every European state.
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      Reply #36: Jul 09, 2018 05:07:57 pm
      No matter what the Tory PR story is the Brussels police state is out there as large as life and it's not just diehard Tory nationalists who are increasingly concerned about it's all powerful hold on every European state.

      That really any worse than the current inept f**king chancers we have running the show in this country?
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      Reply #37: Jul 09, 2018 05:29:44 pm
      That really any worse than the current inept f**king chancers we have running the show in this country?

      Who all have seemed to have jumped the sinking ship..

      Cameron
      Osbourne.
      Farage.
      Davis.
      Buffoon Boris.

      Not long before Moggy fucks off too..
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      Reply #38: Jul 09, 2018 05:49:28 pm
      That really any worse than the current inept f**king chancers we have running the show in this country?

      It's worth remembering that these fuckers in power now would like nothing more than the EU pantomime to continue as long as they are there, in power and happy with the distraction of the EU fuckwits to take attention away from the fuckuperry like we have witnessed in the last few days.
      Cameron was willing to put his neck on the line confident as he was that the electorate didn't have a f**king clue, May is still f**king ducking and diving stretching it out and f**king lying to the country and her party, she snd her inner circle want to remain
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      Reply #39: Jul 09, 2018 06:24:57 pm
      If you voted for Cameron it was for a strong economy.
      If you voted for May it was for strong and stable government.
      What a load of gullible disapointments the electorate has become.
      A messed up economy and a weak government.
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      Reply #42: Jul 09, 2018 07:44:34 pm
      Chris Grayling's PPS f**king off now!!

      https://twitter.com/CGreenUK/status/1016388724974915584
      Frankly, Mr Shankly
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      Reply #43: Jul 09, 2018 10:27:08 pm
      Was only a matter of time before that bleached arse hole made his headline stealing move.
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      Reply #44: Jul 09, 2018 10:58:15 pm
      If you voted for Cameron it was for a strong economy.
      If you voted for May it was for strong and stable government.
      What a load of gullible disapointments the electorate has become.
      A messed up economy and a weak government.

      Only kept in power by an alliance of convenience, convenient for the Tory party of course while being unacceptable to the majority of the electorate who did not vote Tory.
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      Reply #45: Jul 09, 2018 11:11:55 pm
      Wow... I thought our current Government and leadership was a catastrophe. Unless   people start to voice their concerns, we may just witness the fall of the Western Democracies. Its time for people to actually fight for beliefs. Stand and be counted. Otherwise it will just disappear.

      This is the way the world ends
      This is the way the world ends
      This is the way the world ends
      Not with a bang but a whimper.

      T.S. Eliot
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      Reply #46: Jul 09, 2018 11:47:59 pm
      Was only a matter of time before that bleached arse hole made his headline stealing move.

      Bleached ? Think his hair is the only genuine thing about him
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      Reply #47: Jul 10, 2018 10:02:07 am
      Chaos setting in the Tory Party. First Davis, now that f**king idiot gobs***e Boris has resigned. Brexit's going to be such a f**king success under these wankers :laugh:

      and it would be better under Labour how, they shift position every 5 minutes. I can only hope for the Tories to see sense an oust May because this current super soft Brexit plan will be a bloody disaster. I agree the Tories are in disarray but Labour is not exactly solid either.
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      Reply #50: Jul 10, 2018 02:12:11 pm

      He is a Tory - what do you expect - compassion, a profound sense of social justice, sympathy for the less privileged etc etc, they are only interested in gain at other's expense.
      FUCKING scum.
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      Reply #51: Jul 10, 2018 02:14:29 pm
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      Reply #52: Jul 10, 2018 02:16:33 pm
      and it would be better under Labour how, they shift position every 5 minutes. I can only hope for the Tories to see sense an oust May because this current super soft Brexit plan will be a bloody disaster. I agree the Tories are in disarray but Labour is not exactly solid either.

      Hard brexit would be worse, though I suppose It's better than no deal.
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      Reply #53: Jul 10, 2018 02:35:18 pm
      The news of the 12 young Thai lads escaping with their coach is just incredibly good news I expect most if not all people feared the worst but hope for the best. Everyone seems really cheered by the whole event with people from all over the World coming to their assistance. These lads are just kids nothing special so the perplexing question is how can we all be so emotionally involved in this incident yet all over the world and through history we as humans have been only too happy to kill each other adult of Children it mattered not. How can we on the one hand show such concern such compassion for total strangers yet show complete distain or indifference for others we are a weird lot.
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      Reply #54: Jul 10, 2018 03:11:33 pm
      All Safe over in Thailand .

      Brilliant .... well done and never forget the Seal who lost his life .

      Today the Scum sent a letter to the kids .

       I think we have a PR opportunity to match if not better them.

      At least the coach is a true RED fan trying to keep the faith and spread the word.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/44755093


      I was then able to show him a note from Manchester United to the rescued boys.
      It was an invitation to visit Old Trafford next season, as most of the boys are passionate Man U fans.

      There was a little disbelief, and then elation, even from coach Nop, who admits he is a Liverpool fan who has failed to convert the rest of his team.

      "Is this for real?" they asked.



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      Reply #55: Jul 10, 2018 03:15:28 pm
      Boris Our Saviour.
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      Reply #56: Jul 10, 2018 05:08:22 pm

      Tories won't be as gracious Skip, Theresa May will be f**king and blinding Boris every waking hour, possibly having nightmares as well.
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      Reply #57: Jul 11, 2018 12:47:50 am
      Tories won't be as gracious Skip, Theresa May will be f**king and blinding Boris every waking hour, possibly having nightmares as well.

      Exactly Stu.

            ;D
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      Reply #58: Jul 12, 2018 09:03:23 pm
      https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1017497883602509825

      I wonder how long before Salisbury will be described as uninhabitable?
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      Reply #59: Jul 13, 2018 12:07:43 am
      I read that Trump is heading to the UK....you guys want to do us a favor and go ahead and keep him on ice for us for the foreseeable future? possibly permanently?

      Thanks fellow Reds!
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      Vote Leave: Brexit campaign 'broke electoral law' in referendum

      Brexit campaign group Vote Leave has been fined £61,000 and referred to the police after an Electoral Commission probe said it broke electoral law.

      The watchdog said it exceeded its £7m spending limit by funnelling £675,315 through pro-Brexit youth group BeLeave.

      The founder of BeLeave, Darren Grimes, has been fined £20,000 and reported to the police, along with Vote Leave official David Halsall.

      Vote Leave said the "wholly inaccurate" report was politically motivated.

      The Vote Leave campaign, which was fronted by Boris Johnson and Michael Gove, won the contest to be the official Leave campaign in the 2016 referendum on whether Britain should stay in the European Union.

      The result of the referendum was 51.9% for Leave and 48.1% for Remain. The UK is due to officially leave the European Union at 23:00 GMT on 29 March, 2019.

      The referendum was not legally binding, merely "advisory," according to a Supreme Court judgement in December 2016, so it can't be ordered to be re-run by a court - any decision to have a fresh referendum would have to be made by the government and Parliament would have to pass a referendum act.

      Vote Leave and the official Remain campaign Britain Stronger in Europe were allowed to spend £7m each on campaigning in the run up to the referendum.

      Vote Leave spent nearly £2.7m of its £7m budget on the services of a Canadian digital marketing firm, Aggregate IQ.

      A further £675,315 was sent to Aggregate IQ by BeLeave, a group set up by Mr Grimes, then a fashion student at Brighton university.

      The money came from Vote Leave which has said in the past it was told by the Electoral Commission it was allowed to do this because BeLeave was a separate campaign group.

      But the Electoral Commission - which is the watchdog overseeing elections in the UK and ensuring that UK laws on spending by political parties are followed - has ruled that the two groups were working together and Mr Grimes had "wrongly" reported the spending as his own.

      This meant that, including this amount, the Electoral Commission says Vote Leave spent £7,449,079, breaching its £7m spending limit.

      Darren Grimes is also said to have exceeded the £10,000 he was allowed to spend as a non-registered campaigner, the watchdog said.

      Bob Posner, from the Electoral Commission, said: "We found substantial evidence that the two groups worked to a common plan, did not declare their joint working and did not adhere to the legal spending limits. These are serious breaches of the laws put in place by Parliament to ensure fairness and transparency at elections and referendums."

      He added: "Vote Leave has resisted our investigation from the start, including contesting our right as the statutory regulator to open the investigation. It has refused to cooperate, refused our requests to put forward a representative for interview, and forced us to use our legal powers to compel it to provide evidence.

      "Nevertheless, the evidence we have found is clear and substantial, and can now be seen in our report."

      It is impossible to say how overspending by the Vote Leave campaign affected the referendum result. It all went to one marketing firm, which developed highly-targeted Facebook advertising.

      In a quote since removed from the Aggregate IQ website, Vote Leave campaign director Dominic Cummings said: "We couldn't have done it without them."

      Anti-Brexit Labour peer Lord Adonis said Vote Leave's overspending "could have been decisive" in the 2016 referendum because it was a close result but he did not want to re-run that campaign.

      Instead, he said "all of those responsible for this breach of the law" should be "barred" from playing any part any future referendum, such as the one he is calling for on the final Brexit deal.

      In a statement on Twitter, Mr Grimes said it was "incredible" that he had been fined £20,000 "on the basis of the wrong box being ticked on an application form".

      He said he had been interviewed by the Electoral Commission during two previous investigations and had never been "provided with particulars" of the allegation that he had worked on a "common plan" with Vote Leave so that he could "make representations about it".

      "Politicians say they want young people to engage with politics. I was 22 when I got involved in a referendum I felt passionately about. I did nothing wrong," he added.

      "I have been persecuted for over two years by powerful people for nothing more than engaging in the democratic process and having the temerity to be on the winning side. It has been appalling for my family."

      The Electoral Commission cleared Vote Leave of breaking spending limits in March last year but re-opened its investigation in October, saying new evidence had come to light from its own investigations, media reports, academics and whistleblowers.

      Another pro-Brexit group, Veterans for Britain, was also found to have inaccurately reported a donation it received from Vote Leave and has been fined £250.

      Vote Leave also returned an "incomplete and inaccurate spending report", with almost £234,501 reported incorrectly, and invoices missing for £12,849.99 of spending, the watchdog said.

      A Vote Leave spokesman said: "The Electoral Commission's report contains a number of false accusations and incorrect assertions that are wholly inaccurate and do not stand up to scrutiny.

      "It is astonishing that nobody from Vote Leave has been interviewed by the commission in the production of this report, nor indeed at any point in the past two years. Yet the commission has interviewed the so-called 'whistleblowers' who have no knowledge of how Vote Leave operated and whose credibility has been seriously called into question.

      "Vote Leave has provided evidence to the Electoral Commission proving there was no wrongdoing. And yet despite clear evidence of wrongdoing by the Remain campaign, the commission has chosen to ignore this and refused to launch an investigation.

      "All this suggests that the supposedly impartial commission is motivated by a political agenda rather than uncovering the facts.

      "The commission has failed to follow due process, and in doing so has based its conclusions on unfounded claims and conspiracy theories.

      "We will consider the options available to us, but are confident that these findings will be overturned."

      The Electoral Commission hit back at allegations of political bias, saying: "We open investigations where the evidence justifies it, irrespective of the political views of the party or campaigner concerned."

      It also insisted it had followed "due process" and had spent three months and made five attempts to interview Vote Leave representatives.

      Months into the investigation, certain Vote Leave staff members came to us separately and offered to be interviewed, an Electoral Commission source said, but by that point it gathered enough evidence to conclude that an offence had occurred.

      A separate Brexit campaign, Leave.EU, was fined £70,000 in March for failing to declare "at least" £77,380 it spent on referendum campaigning.

      Leave.EU chief executive Liz Bilney was referred to the police following the commission's investigation. Leave.EU co-founder Arron Banks called it a "politically motivated attack" and said he would take the watchdog to court.

      Leave.EU, which was fronted by then-UKIP leader Nigel Farage, was only allowed to spend £700,000 in the run up to the referendum, after losing out to Vote Leave in the battle to designated the official Leave campaign.

      The official Remain campaign Britain Stronger in Europe, was fined £1,250 in December last year for not providing invoices and for declaring some spending in aggregate rather than individual payments.

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      Reply #62: Jul 17, 2018 06:46:13 pm


      What options 1 and 2 look in reality and not according to Hard Brexiteers dreams of a land of milk and honey.

      Oh and it's nice to know that the winning campaign also went 10% overspend that sits nicely with the Leave campaign's dodgy links with Cambridge Analytica.
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      Reply #63: Jul 17, 2018 08:28:57 pm
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      Reply #64: Jul 18, 2018 05:18:37 pm
      Good speech from Boris today, when you look at the speech May made at Lancaster house and what she has come up with now we may as well stay in. Don't be afraid, cut the apron strings from the bureaucratic cash monster that the EU has become.
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      Reply #65: Jul 18, 2018 07:50:00 pm
      Good speech from Boris today, when you look at the speech May made at Lancaster house and what she has come up with now we may as well stay in. Don't be afraid, cut the apron strings from the bureaucratic cash monster that the EU has become.

      The speech of nothing more than an attention seeking power hungry showman at best and a fraudster at worst.
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      Reply #66: Jul 18, 2018 07:58:38 pm
      Good speech from Boris today, when you look at the speech May made at Lancaster house and what she has come up with now we may as well stay in. Don't be afraid, cut the apron strings from the bureaucratic cash monster that the EU has become.

      https://twitter.com/patrick_kidd/status/1019584716142342145?ref_src=twcamp%5Ecopy%7Ctwsrc%5Eandroid%7Ctwgr%5Ecopy%7Ctwcon%5E7090%7Ctwterm%5E3
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      Reply #67: Jul 18, 2018 08:48:29 pm
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      Reply #68: Jul 18, 2018 08:55:43 pm
      https://twitter.com/Jacob_Rees_Mogg/status/1019601504481763329

      That's all that matters for Boris. Get this surrealist maniac and his pals on board and then anything's possible.

      Hasn't Mogg set up a company in Ireland recently so he could continue to trade Europe?..
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      Reply #69: Jul 18, 2018 09:06:41 pm
      Hasn't Mogg set up a company in Ireland recently so he could continue to trade Europe?..

      Yes he has.

      Rumours also abound that he and some of his cronies recently shorted the pound, predicting the drop that has just happened. Insider trading?
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      Reply #70: Jul 18, 2018 09:17:31 pm
      Hasn't Mogg set up a company in Ireland recently so he could continue to trade Europe?..

      I would be surprised if he didn't. And then you've got that other hard Brexiteering slug Nigel Lawson applying for French residency. It's really appalling what they're doing. Brexit is the actions of a bunch of elitist criminals dressed in well tailored suits. F***ing cowards and I hope to god they get served their comeuppance and a bit more.
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      Reply #71: Jul 18, 2018 09:19:57 pm
      I would be surprised if he didn't. And then you've got that other hard Brexiteering slug Nigel Lawson applying for French residency. It's really appalling what they're doing. Brexit is the actions of a bunch of elitist criminals dressed in well tailored suits. F***ing cowards and I hope to god they get served their comeuppance and a bit more.

      The Americans are really pushing us out of Europe..

      F**k do I want chlorine chicken, private health.. Etc Etc..
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      Reply #72: Jul 18, 2018 09:29:14 pm
      The Americans are really pushing us out of Europe..

      F**k do I want chlorine chicken, private health.. Etc Etc..

      Ghastly isn't it. Can you imagine the UK negotiating a trade deal with the likes of America, China, India etc? It'd be economic exploitation on an unprecedented scale. Anyone who thinks we would be equal partners in such trade deals are either illiterate or deluded old screwballs who still inhibit a belief that Britain is some sort of imperial/industrial superpower. They're welcome to that view...if they take a time machine and f**k off back 150 years or so.
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      Reply #73: Jul 18, 2018 11:29:12 pm


      What options 1 and 2 look in reality and not according to Hard Brexiteers dreams of a land of milk and honey.

      Oh and it's nice to know that the winning campaign also went 10% overspend that sits nicely with the Leave campaign's dodgy links with Cambridge Analytica.

      The leave campaign certainly did a good job of hoodwinking people into thinking we'd be better off by leaving the EU.

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      Reply #74: Jul 19, 2018 12:35:36 am
      The leave campaign certainly did a good job of hoodwinking people into thinking we'd be better off by leaving the EU.



      Should be behind bars for lying.. Tossers..

      I voted remain with the hope that Westminster would help bring about change & reform the mechanisms of the EU...

      The country voted out & I stand by this decision..

      We do however need a new vote in which we are clearly shown the cost of either staying within the EU or out..
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      Reply #75: Jul 19, 2018 09:00:48 am
      Hasn't Mogg set up a company in Ireland recently so he could continue to trade Europe?..

      What's the issue here then?

      Is it not being forward thinking and not wanting to be excluded from trading anywhere.

      And shorting the pound big deal it happens a million times a day against all currencies in the City.

      Do we not want decision makers that look at all angles and then decide.

      Brown sold our gold at a low, China plays about with their commodity prices and supply/demand....load of govts do this sort of thing.








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      Reply #76: Jul 19, 2018 09:12:16 am
      The reason Brexit won is because Cameron protested to remain.
      It is nothing about Boris winning, the news saying Cameron would have to go if Brexit won was enough.
      In a second referendum, if it were said if remain wins Teresa has to go then remain will win.
      It's that simple, vote manipulation by the media.
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      Reply #77: Jul 19, 2018 10:03:28 am
      Jewish nation state: Israel approves controversial bill

      Israel's parliament has passed into law a controversial bill that defines the country as an exclusively Jewish state.

      The "Jewish nation state" bill downgrades Arabic as an official language and says advancing Jewish settlement is a national interest.

      It also states that the "whole and united" Jerusalem is its capital.

      Israeli Arab MPs condemned the legislation but Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu praised it as a "defining moment".

      The bill, backed by the country's right-wing government, says "Israel is the historic homeland of the Jewish people and they have an exclusive right to national self-determination in it".

      It was passed after a stormy session in the Knesset that lasted more than eight hours. Sixty-two MPs voted for the bill, with 55 against.

      However some clauses were dropped following objections by Israel's president and attorney-general, including a clause that would have enshrined in law the creation of Jewish-only communities.

      Israeli Arabs make up about 20% of Israel's population of about nine million people.

      They have equal rights under the law but have long complained of being treated as second-class citizens and say they face discrimination and worse provision of services such as education, health and housing.

      Arab MP Ahmed Tibi said the bill's passing represented the "death of democracy".

      Adalah, an Arab rights non-governmental orgnisation, said the law was an attempt to advance "ethnic superiority by promoting racist policies".

      Last week Mr Netanyahu defended the law, saying: "We will keep ensuring civil rights in Israel's democracy but the majority also has rights and the majority decides."


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      Jewish nation state: Israel approves controversial bill

      Israel's parliament has passed into law a controversial bill that defines the country as an exclusively Jewish state.

      The "Jewish nation state" bill downgrades Arabic as an official language and says advancing Jewish settlement is a national interest.

      It also states that the "whole and united" Jerusalem is its capital.

      Israeli Arab MPs condemned the legislation but Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu praised it as a "defining moment".

      The bill, backed by the country's right-wing government, says "Israel is the historic homeland of the Jewish people and they have an exclusive right to national self-determination in it".

      It was passed after a stormy session in the Knesset that lasted more than eight hours. Sixty-two MPs voted for the bill, with 55 against.

      However some clauses were dropped following objections by Israel's president and attorney-general, including a clause that would have enshrined in law the creation of Jewish-only communities.

      Israeli Arabs make up about 20% of Israel's population of about nine million people.

      They have equal rights under the law but have long complained of being treated as second-class citizens and say they face discrimination and worse provision of services such as education, health and housing.

      Arab MP Ahmed Tibi said the bill's passing represented the "death of democracy".

      Adalah, an Arab rights non-governmental orgnisation, said the law was an attempt to advance "ethnic superiority by promoting racist policies".

      Last week Mr Netanyahu defended the law, saying: "We will keep ensuring civil rights in Israel's democracy but the majority also has rights and the majority decides."


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      I have no idea about any of it.
      Sounds more like demographic politics than news.
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      Reply #79: Jul 19, 2018 12:16:29 pm
      I have no idea about any of it.
      Sounds more like demographic politics than news.

      No

      More of being full on a religious state based on apartheid rule over once where majority and annexing more land for Jewish settlements.
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      Reply #80: Jul 19, 2018 04:02:22 pm
      https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1019959702107639808

      Shame as it means their restaurant in Liverpool will close, really like their steak baguettes as well. A shame for the job losses too.
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      Reply #81: Jul 19, 2018 07:04:15 pm
      https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1019959702107639808

      Shame as it means their restaurant in Liverpool will close, really like their steak baguettes as well. A shame for the job losses too.

      I read that as 'steak bake'. Definitely a bit more 'cultured' than that.

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