Which English commentators are saying that? The commentary I was watching were critical of Henderson retaliating and pointed out when English players went down under minimal contact.
You simply cannot condone how Columbia played that match, they were using every single opportunity to cheat and argue with the referee, it was quite disgraceful and one of the worst displays I have ever seen and its very telling that you not only accept it but applaud it.
Err, I condoned and applauded that where, exactly? You and Riba have that incredible ability to respond to my posts discussing sh*t I'm not talking about as if I was. I am talking about English double standards, I haven't said I liked Colombia's approach or that they behaved well, or anything of the sort.
Just a couple of articles celebrating England's "streetwise" and even "shithouse" tactics:
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/ken-early-streetwise-england-a-further-step-along-the-road-1.3553011?mode=amphttps://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/england-vs-colombia-gareth-southgate-referee-mark-geiger-quarter-finals-penalty-shootout-video-watch-a8430301.htmlEven Southgate alluded to it as "getting smarter" and "playing by the same rules", yet he somehow tries to keep the high moral ground about only going to ground as fouled. Wonder how the first sentence makes sense after that.
https://twitter.com/henrywinter/status/1014271696587632640To which the chief sports writer from the Times again calls them "more streetwise":
https://twitter.com/henrywinter/status/1014402369763856384I used to quite like your posts Diego but you have really shown your colours these past few days, I'm actually amazed you support LFC, it must frustrate the hell out of you how clean we play with as you put it outdated English morality. Well I'll tell you what, I'm glad LFC and England play with a sense of morality, dignity and honour, something so very clearly lacking from the entire South American region, riddled as it is in corruption and poverty.
Again you completely misunderstand my point about 19th century morality. It's not playing to the rules of the game that I have any issues with, it's much more with the double standards and taking the high moral ground only when it suits.
It's stuff like Steven Gerrard writing on his book about how diving is ruining the game, having dived multiple times in his career. It's someone like walton in the round of 16 thread getting all worked up because someone accused Henderson of going overly dramatic as if this was a terrible slight on his character, but then you can find posts from him saying "we need wankers" in our team (and he's just one example in many like that). It's the constant reference to someone like Souness as a "tough player" because apparently deliberately hurting opponents is permissible, and a player like Roy Keane can be completely revered, but rolling around the floor after being fouled constantly is against the "manly" aspect of the game - now that is a mindset totally stuck in 19th century, public school, upper class football morality.
Were you in this forum during the 2010 World Cup? If you were not, then you missed the truly hilarious responses to Suarez instinctively saving the ball against Ghana, and then the outrage as he dared to celebrate as Gyan missed his penalty. I bet some generalisations about South Americans were used at the time as well. He was a terrible cheater then, for keeping his country's hopes alive in the world cup. Mind you, not long later the forum stuck by him as he faced suspension for racist abuse and two biting incidents (a victim of the FA and the media), but by then he was a LFC player, so it is all somehow explained and permissible.
The likes of Dele Alli are among the worst divers in the Premier League but yeah, sure, England play with a sense of dignity that the South American barbarians lack. And everything wrong that they might do is only as a response to that, and perfectly understandable when that is the case.
That point about LFC is a bit ridiculous, as if our team has behaved always the same throughout the years. The current team is a quite likeable one but I think our entire front three has already been booked for diving, I'm sure Mané and Salah have.
Oh well, of course you have to finish off with yet another non football related dig but I wouldn't have expected different.