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      Sean Cox Regains Consciousness
      Jul 15, 2018 01:42:34 am
      Couldn't find the old thread so merge if needed mods.

      Great news. Let's hope its a full recovery.

      https://twitter.com/LivEchonews/status/1018239660546457602?s=19

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      Re: Sean Cox Regains Consciousness
      Reply #1: Jul 15, 2018 03:14:50 am
      Great news.
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      Reply #2: Jul 15, 2018 07:16:27 am
      For me, this is the signing of the season. Don't forget that it is just football after all this trouble in the world. YNWA Sean!
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      Re: Sean Cox Regains Consciousness
      Reply #3: Jul 15, 2018 08:08:58 am
      Great news that, hope he makes a full recovery.

      What happened to the scumbags they nicked who did it?
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      Reply #4: Jul 15, 2018 08:51:19 am
      Great news that, hope he makes a full recovery.

      What happened to the scumbags they nicked who did it?

      That is good news,they should throw the bas**rds who attacked him into a packed KOP for punishment.For sure they would not attack anyone else.
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      Reply #5: Jul 15, 2018 08:54:12 am
      Great news that, hope he makes a full recovery.

      What happened to the scumbags they nicked who did it?

      They might be on trial in October. I could be wrong, though.
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      Re: Sean Cox Regains Consciousness
      Reply #6: Jul 15, 2018 09:55:05 am
      Brilliant news that

      I hope he makes a full recovery

      Can you imagine what it must be like to lose 3 months of your life? Not in terms of not being grateful to wake up and be conscious and hopefully everything the way it was for him but to have explained what he must have missed?
      Last he knew was before the first leg against Anfield.. He didn't know how that's went.. that we made the final... Hey f**king he'll he's probably the only Liverpool fan alive that doesn't think Karius is a bit of a soft c**t
      What could have happened with his family? Pregancys, graduations....

      Brilliant news though, I hope his life is what it was before

      You'll never walk alone Sean
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      Reply #7: Jul 15, 2018 10:08:19 am
      This is great news & hopefully the starting point of a full recovery.
      After such a very long wait I Can only imagine the relief his friends & family must be feeling at this moment.
      As for the fuckers who put him there well @billy1 made a good sugestion
      But one way or another they will get there comeuppance.
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      Re: Sean Cox Regains Consciousness
      Reply #8: Jul 15, 2018 10:12:31 am
      Great news, here’s hoping and praying he continues his recovery. I’m sure he still has a long way to go, but his family and friends must be so relieved. YNWA Sean.
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      Reply #9: Jul 15, 2018 10:17:43 am
      Very good news indeed
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      Reply #10: Jul 15, 2018 11:30:35 am
      Because he was in a coma so long, it is most likely he will have permanent moderate disabilities.
      It must be quite awful for him to be honest.

      90% of brain injured patients who are vegetative for one month or longer will fail to improve to a state better than severe disability.

      https://www.braininjury.com/coma-brain-injury.shtml

      I understand the optimism about full recovery guys, but it is very unlikely so that sucks.
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      Reply #11: Jul 15, 2018 12:51:18 pm
      Because he was in a coma so long, it is most likely he will have permanent moderate disabilities.
      It must be quite awful for him to be honest.

      90% of brain injured patients who are vegetative for one month or longer will fail to improve to a state better than severe disability.

      https://www.braininjury.com/coma-brain-injury.shtml

      I understand the optimism about full recovery guys, but it is very unlikely so that sucks.

      You really are that silver lining aren't you! ;-)
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      Reply #12: Jul 15, 2018 02:08:09 pm
      You really are that silver lining aren't you! ;-)
      Hopefully he is in the 10% that make better recoveries.
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      Reply #13: Jul 15, 2018 02:14:03 pm
      That is just great great news, so happy for him and his family.

      Now to hoping for him to recover fully from it.

      YNWA
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      Reply #14: Jul 15, 2018 02:15:59 pm
      Good  News !

      YNWA
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      Reply #15: Jul 15, 2018 02:18:26 pm
      Great to hear hope Sean makes a full recovery now.

      YNWA.
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      Reply #16: Jul 15, 2018 06:20:39 pm
      Heard this today. Great news :) Hope he goes on and makes a full recovery.
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      Reply #17: Jul 15, 2018 08:15:44 pm
      Great news, hopefully the first step on the long road to recovery
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      Reply #18: Jul 15, 2018 08:31:14 pm
      Strange how important issues get pushed to the back of your mind. I’d not even realised Sean was still in a coma.
      Good new he’s awoken though, and hopefully a full recovery will be the outcome.
      His family must be elated, and the scum who did this, glad they’re not facing a murder charge, although attempted murder can still carry a life sentence. Let’s hope it’s implemented.
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      Re: Sean Cox Regains Consciousness
      Reply #19: Jul 17, 2018 09:45:09 am
      Great news for Sean and his family.
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      Re: Sean Cox Regains Consciousness
      Reply #20: Aug 02, 2018 02:40:56 am
      Have there been any updates on his progress or how he's doing? 
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      Re: Sean Cox Regains Consciousness
      Reply #21: Aug 02, 2018 09:57:02 am
      Have there been any updates on his progress or how he's doing? 

      I think the family said at the time that they had requested privacy as he continues his recuperation.

      Let's face it - if you're out for the count for that kind of period of time any recovery would likely be exceptionally slow, if at all.
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      Reply #22: Aug 05, 2018 03:55:45 pm
      Jürgen met his family before the game yesterday it must have meant so much to them and its another indication that our manager is an even better Human being than he is a football manager and he is an awesome manager.
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      Re: Sean Cox Regains Consciousness
      Reply #23: Oct 11, 2018 11:59:29 pm
      He has now left the second hospital, and is now at his third hospital, the Irish state injury rehabilitation hospital, for what is expected to be a considerable period of time.
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      Reply #24: Oct 12, 2018 12:17:45 pm
      Excellent news, am praying for him and his family that he makes a full recovery.
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      Reply #25: Oct 12, 2018 01:16:00 pm
      He has now left the second hospital, and is now at his third hospital, the Irish state injury rehabilitation hospital, for what is expected to be a considerable period of time.

      Having had experience of rehabilitation units following a head injury the treatment there should show a dramatic improvement in all aspects of Sean's condition.
      Possibly looking at attending rehab for months.
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      Reply #26: Oct 12, 2018 01:23:17 pm
      Having had experience of rehabilitation units following a head injury the treatment there should show a dramatic improvement in all aspects of Sean's condition.
      Possibly looking at attending rehab for months.
      The worst I've had is a 3 week concussion caused by temporary bruising of the brain... so I can't say my experience is as thorough as yours.. but articles written by respectable newspapers said he was unlikely to fully recover. I would have thought years rather than months to get near a suitable conative ability again right?
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      Reply #27: Oct 12, 2018 03:31:26 pm
      The worst I've had is a 3 week concussion caused by temporary bruising of the brain... so I can't say my experience is as thorough as yours.. but articles written by respectable newspapers said he was unlikely to fully recover. I would have thought years rather than months to get near a suitable conative ability again right?

      Rather think a three month coma eclipses any concussion claims.
      Bruising of the brain although sounding rather trivial does entail permanent and usually irreparable damage and loss of whatever faculty is affected within that area of the brain.

      Science has yet to discover a way of repairing bruising to the brain which effectively destroys brain cells, rehabilitation does what it says on the packet - try to overcome any loss with a greater effort from whatever components remain.

      A period of rehabilitation whether it be one month, two or whatever is supposedly meant to prepare Sean for his return to a regular social order, his consultants would have thought it appropriate his treatment continue in such a manner, after which he may do occupational  therapy then hopefully gain suitable employment.
      Sean's progress is entirely in his own hands and the glib phrase of ''you only get out what you put in" was never more suitable.
      « Last Edit: Oct 12, 2018 03:57:27 pm by stuey »
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      Re: Sean Cox Regains Consciousness
      Reply #28: Oct 13, 2018 12:16:25 pm
      It is reported today that Sean has some difficulty talking and can only speak in a whisper, he also requires assistance in sitting upright.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-45840113
      « Last Edit: Oct 13, 2018 12:27:59 pm by stuey »
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      Reply #29: Oct 13, 2018 01:03:06 pm
      It is reported today that Sean has some difficulty talking and can only speak in a whisper, he also requires assistance in sitting upright.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-45840113


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      Re: Sean Cox Regains Consciousness
      Reply #31: Oct 13, 2018 02:05:09 pm
      Keep fighting Sean your always in our thoughts YNWA
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      Reply #32: Oct 13, 2018 04:28:44 pm

      Hope those tw*ts get a f**king long stretch in Walton.
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      Reply #33: Oct 14, 2018 08:45:37 am
      Hope those tw*ts get a f**king long stretch in Walton.

      I would throw the bas**rds into the KOP,we would see how tough they are then.
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      Reply #34: Oct 14, 2018 12:03:19 pm
      I would throw the bas**rds into the KOP,we would see how tough they are then.

      Rough justice Billy and entirely deserved.
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      Reply #35: Oct 14, 2018 12:45:47 pm
      Rough justice Billy and entirely deserved.



      Matthew (5:38-42) "Ye have heard that it hath been said, An Eyetie for an and an Eyetie, and a tooth for a tooth !
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      Re: Sean Cox Regains Consciousness
      Reply #36: Oct 14, 2018 09:28:41 pm
      I agree with the throw them in the kop thing, but leave them how they left him,  obviously thats not gonna happen, but they need to be dealt with as Full. We had five years away, which was unjustified, THEY Came at us ,the lads responded, but people died, but that was not at the hands of LFC supporters, they ran to the fence and thats all. The law should take these to the hilt. Total  sh*t houses
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      Reply #37: Oct 14, 2018 09:31:49 pm
      We all know Sean will not get justice their is no justice for him, Lets keep him in our thoughts and wish him a full recovery how ever long it may take
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      Reply #38: Oct 15, 2018 07:18:30 pm
      We all know Sean will not get justice their is no justice for him, Lets keep him in our thoughts and wish him a full recovery how ever long it may take

      From experience and very unfortunately the prospects for Sean in the long term are not too optimistic.
      A younger person would have improved considerably more in the time frame in question and doctors would be expecting greater sensory and physical responses than Sean is displaying; his advanced years are his greatest obstacle
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      Reply #39: Oct 15, 2018 10:38:55 pm
      Was delighted to hear he'd regained consciousness.
      Really hope he manages to make a full recovery.
      Disgrace what happened to him.
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      Reply #40: Oct 18, 2018 04:05:24 pm
      Fillipo Lombardi has been found not guilty of attacking Sean Cox outside Anfield, he still faces a charge of violent disorder.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-45906189
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      Reply #41: Oct 18, 2018 04:14:53 pm
      Incredible really. He knocked him out from May to October right?

      Crazy system!
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      Reply #42: Oct 18, 2018 05:01:15 pm
      Incredible really. He knocked him out from May to October right?

      Crazy system!

      F***ing mad, police are sh*t.
      Maybe if he threw a lager can at a bus he'd be in deep sh*t.

      If that isn't GBH what the f**k is?
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      Reply #43: Oct 18, 2018 05:11:16 pm
      Did you guys read the report ? He's not the guy who hit Sean Cox. He's guilty of violent disorder 3 years.
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      Reply #44: Oct 18, 2018 05:58:05 pm
      Did you guys read the report ? He's not the guy who hit Sean Cox. He's guilty of violent disorder 3 years.

      He swung the belt as Sean fell let's hope he does his time in Walton jail.

      The f**ker who punched him will be extradited and face the more serious charge.
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      Reply #45: Oct 18, 2018 06:01:52 pm
      Ah whats the use the Law is just pathetic the guy had a belt wrapped around his fist "to protect himself". Lets hope he finds some nice friends in Walton Jail
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      Reply #46: Oct 18, 2018 06:39:35 pm
      The criminal system in this country is a discrace, 3 men got 15months for climbing on a van while trying to stop fracking, this c**t got 3 years ffs
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      Reply #47: Oct 19, 2018 08:14:13 am
      Did you guys read the report ? He's not the guy who hit Sean Cox. He's guilty of violent disorder 3 years.

      I hope the bas**rds cell mates are all kopites.
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      Reply #49: Oct 28, 2018 09:12:57 am
      Nice to see a collection outside Anfield yesterday for Sean.
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      Reply #51: Oct 31, 2018 06:43:16 pm
      https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/liverpool/we-just-hope-that-we-get-some-resemblance-of-sean-back-martina-cox-on-her-husbands-health-battle-after-anfield-attack-37389104.html

      The real sad part is the ambushstyle attack. Even worse that those c*cksuckers from Roma are still running around as if nothing happened. Very sad also that no mob stepped up and gave it to them right away, probably no die hard LFC fans were there. And the police as always...MIA.
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      Reply #52: Nov 03, 2018 12:55:47 pm
      £60,000 raised up to yesterday on behalf of Sean through collections at the ground and appeals etc.
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      Reply #53: Nov 03, 2018 11:15:39 pm
      The main perpetrators of the assault are now locked up, so they won't be able to attack anyone else for a long time. That is far more effective than our fans sinking to their level.

      Our fans responded on the night how fans should, with intelligence, restraint and generosity. And still do. €67,000 raised for Sean, half from the game last week and the rest matched by the club.

      Well done and thanks to all who contributed so generously.
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      Reply #56: Nov 16, 2018 07:59:10 am

      Lovely lovely gesture from Roma, it would be nice if the millionaire owners, manager and players from our club matched it, beyond the £5000 from Jürgen, which whilst nice, doesn't really go that far.
      BTW it could well be that LFC have donated already in which case fair play to them.
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      Reply #57: Nov 23, 2018 08:59:43 pm
      lets keep our thoughts positive for Seans recovery. Hopefully the Club will do the right thing by him and his family as the last thing they need is to be worried about money. Top marks to Roma a very thoughtful gesture
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      Reply #58: Dec 13, 2018 02:39:39 pm
      Martina Cox explains her account of the events of April 24 to the Irish state broadcaster.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6xjRP_QEoA&t=0s
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      Reply #59: Feb 28, 2019 07:46:13 pm
      Small piece of justice for the Cox family.

      Pales into insignificance against their suffering though.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-47400988
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      Reply #60: Feb 28, 2019 08:09:09 pm
      3 years seems pretty generous, I'd given him 5 years  without early exit and I bet this c*cksucker doesn't have to pay a cent to Cox and couldn't anyway. That's usually the real blow that those people don't pay back, they just sit in prison.

      BTW: How safe/unsafe was it in the hooligan era in the 70s/80s to visit a LFC game? Could u do it as long as not causing trouble or would the lone fact of a shirt from an opponent team make you a target?
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      Re: Sean Cox Regains Consciousness
      Reply #61: Feb 28, 2019 08:50:31 pm
      3 years seems pretty generous, I'd given him 5 years  without early exit and I bet this c*cksucker doesn't have to pay a cent to Cox and couldn't anyway. That's usually the real blow that those people don't pay back, they just sit in prison.

      BTW: How safe/unsafe was it in the hooligan era in the 70s/80s to visit a LFC game? Could u do it as long as not causing trouble or would the lone fact of a shirt from an opponent team make you a target?

      In cases where the assault causes serious life changing damage the tariff should be set at a minimum of 5 years or even more. Less than that and the deterrent is watered down. Only a random thought as I have no knowledge of the Law in this area. But still.
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      Reply #62: Apr 09, 2019 04:19:09 pm
      Bump this,Stuey posted it in the news section,https://punditarena.com/football/kennedymarisa760/sean-cox-charity-legends-game/. Good luck to him his family hope it's a great day on friday.
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      Reply #63: Apr 09, 2019 05:17:52 pm
      The game is live on lfctv
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      Reply #64: Apr 09, 2019 05:20:51 pm
      I think Sean may be out of Hospital now and hopefully will be able to enjoy tonight's game with his Family.
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      Reply #65: Apr 09, 2019 06:08:25 pm
      I think Sean may be out of Hospital now and hopefully will be able to enjoy tonight's game with his Family.

      Think his first day out is on Friday for the legends game.
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      Reply #66: Apr 09, 2019 06:28:13 pm
      Think his first day out is on Friday for the legends game.

      That's a good news story, inspiring how everyone has rallied around for him.
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      Reply #67: Apr 09, 2019 07:31:28 pm
      Think his first day out is on Friday for the legends game.

      Ah think he is actually returning to Hospital after the game still a very poorly man
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      Re: Sean Cox Regains Consciousness
      Reply #68: Apr 09, 2019 07:32:03 pm
      3 years seems pretty generous, I'd given him 5 years  without early exit and I bet this c*cksucker doesn't have to pay a cent to Cox and couldn't anyway. That's usually the real blow that those people don't pay back, they just sit in prison.

      BTW: How safe/unsafe was it in the hooligan era in the 70s/80s to visit a LFC game? Could u do it as long as not causing trouble or would the lone fact of a shirt from an opponent team make you a target?


      To give you some idea panzer. I lived in L4 as s kid, family moved south and from the age of 17 I used to travel up for matches, some times with mates, sometimes alone. Hitched lifts, went on train, and later drive up, sometimes in car, 2-4 of us. Sometimes in a hired van with as many as 14. That was a weekender, getting a clean up at the pierhead washrooms, and putting on the glad rags to go on the town.
      ( Anyone remember The She Club 😁)
      In all the years I went to games, I got set on by mancs while waiting outside kop turnstiles. Back to the wall, they just ran on to the punches. Then the police dragged them off and restored order.
      Going home on train after Arse game and got approached by three reds supporters wanting to give me a beating thinking they had found a lone Arse fan. That was cleared up and I travelled back south with a load of noisy arse fans( they won) and not a bit of bother.
      14 in a van, stopped at traffic lights in east lancs Road, asked some local lads where we could get a late drink and they fired punches through the window. I jumped out, and flattened three lads, the last one lying in the right hand lane while the lights were changing and the traffic held up. Gang of lads over the road heading my way so I went to open the back of the van to let my mates out to give me a hand and they were in their jocks getting into sleeping bags. Ffs now a gang rushes across the road to sort me out, I jump back in the van, lights on red, had to wait while these tw*ts were kicking sh*t out of the van so I raced off on the Amber, unfortunately hitting two as they tried to jump clear.
      Never gonna stop was I.
      So in all those years, one scrap with scousers, one close call with scousers and one opportunity to batter a couple of mancs.
      Apart from that, a few minor skirmishes that never led to anything.
      I often wonder if anyone on here was with that gang on the east lancs road 😁
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      Re: Sean Cox Regains Consciousness
      Reply #69: Apr 10, 2019 12:20:10 pm
      Not many replica shirts in the 70's people couldn't afford them. Going to the game you would avoid Stanley Park as the away fans would take that route to get to the Anfield road end. I do seem to remember UTD walking around the edge of Stanley Park trying to make a statement and in doing so left their coaches open to having their windows smashed. It was a violent era of football hooligans ,personally I never had any problems but you needed to be aware of your surroundings.
      Incidentally Chelsea who we have on Sunday had some really violent thugs as fans and Stanley knives were used on a regular basis by them.
      Going to the game now is just so safe in comparison.
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      Re: Sean Cox Regains Consciousness
      Reply #70: Apr 11, 2019 03:10:23 pm
      Nice news at last, I hope he and his family have a lovely day tomorrow.

      https://twitter.com/BBCNWT/status/1116293449978982402
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      Re: Sean Cox Regains Consciousness
      Reply #72: Apr 11, 2019 11:14:59 pm
      Nice news at last, I hope he and his family have a lovely day tomorrow.

      https://twitter.com/BBCNWT/status/1116293449978982402

      This is awesome!!  We're all here because we love football (particularlyLFC), but it's importance pales in comparison to this. 
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      Re: Sean Cox Regains Consciousness
      Reply #73: May 23, 2019 08:36:45 pm
      Understandably, Martin Cox didn't take the City song about Liverpool too well. His response was to remind them, that it's only weeks since one of their own fans at a European tie ended up in hospital with serious injuries. But I suppose if you're a club without a heart or a soul, you don't have a memory either.

      Remember, this is the club where the current FW POTY is, portrayed by the media as a role model, just 4 years after his adventures with nitrous oxide. He was on that plane and (as his club did) probably defends the song. Despite the official denials, everyone knows who and what it was referring to. So it seems, club employees singing about football fans who suffer life changing injuries or worse as banter, but say x to a non white Caucasian, and he recommends fines, points deductions, lifetime bans, and stadium closures be dished out, as that's clearly a much more serious issue to him.

      First it was Chelsea fans singing about us, then it was Wolves fans, now it's City staff. It must be a fear of Liverpool. We just do our talking on the pitch.

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