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      Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Player Thread

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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Player Thread
      Reply #850: May 15, 2021 02:19:08 pm
      What a load of bollocks.

      He was storming it before he got his knee injury.
      That's as well as the fact that Klopp changed the formation to a midfield triangle, with AOC at the tip, making him an attackiong midfielder rather than a central one.

      Storming up steps doing dance moves with his 'celebrity' missus is all the storming Ox has done in the last few years

      You must have been watching a different Liverpool, a different Klopp and a different Ox if you think the formation has changed from the 4-3-3 we've been playing for abar 4 years now

      Ox as a 10? A player who can't position himself on the field, can't spot a pass, and couldn't play that pass even if he could spot it?  ???

      There are many reasons 2 coaches as impressive as Wenger and Klopp couldn't/can't seem to fit Ox into a football formation.

      All he's got is a long-range strike on him, and statistically these almost never go in. The game is run on xG these days. We employ analysts with degrees in maths from Cambridge and Oxford looking at this sort of stuff, Klopp brought them in. And they tell the lads not to take long-range potshots because statistically it is almost a total waste of time. Yes it makes football more predictable and boring, and if that'd been the script in 2006 and Stevie had followed instruction, he'd never have lashed in those goals against West Ham and we'd have lost the cup final.

      But that's how the game is run these days whether you or I like it or not (long range shooting was my best attribute when I played so I'd hate to see it disappear from the game). We've got an injury-prone player who barely ever plays, doesn't fit the system no matter where you try to fit him in, and whose best asset is long shots which the players are told by the analysts not to be arsed with.

      And people want to keep him at the club?  ???

      Can anyone remember the last time one of our players took a shot from more than about 22 yards? I can't. It might even be Ox all the way back in that City game. I don't think I've ever seen Gini take one and that's cos he plays to his instructions. Fabinho's clearly got a good long ranger on him but hardly ever uses it, again because he plays to instructions.

      Sadly it's the way football is going, tactics determined by people with rocket science degrees. Most of my favourite moments in football over the years have been people lashing shots in from miles out. First one and still hard to beat was Arie Haan for Holland in the 1978 World Cup. That's some strike. But the analysts would say "ah but that's a one-in-a-million shot, you need to be playing a simple pass out to the wing". And that's why we've got Gini Wijnaldum, doing exactly that, and people pissing and moaning that "he doesn't do anything". Nope he doesn't do anything except play to instruction for a team that clocked up the highest number of points in LFC history for 2 years running. That's still not enough for some people.

      We might need someone to have a dig from distance tomorrow, when Fat Sam parks his buses, but it won't be Ox as he's injured again. Maybe Trent if he's in the sort of mood he was in in the second half against United.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Player Thread
      Reply #851: May 20, 2021 12:07:29 am
      That goal was something else. Wish he was healthy more often.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Player Thread
      Reply #852: May 20, 2021 01:41:09 am
      Storming up steps doing dance moves with his 'celebrity' missus is all the storming Ox has done in the last few years

      You must have been watching a different Liverpool, a different Klopp and a different Ox if you think the formation has changed from the 4-3-3 we've been playing for abar 4 years now

      Ox as a 10? A player who can't position himself on the field, can't spot a pass, and couldn't play that pass even if he could spot it?  ???

      There are many reasons 2 coaches as impressive as Wenger and Klopp couldn't/can't seem to fit Ox into a football formation.

      All he's got is a long-range strike on him, and statistically these almost never go in. The game is run on xG these days. We employ analysts with degrees in maths from Cambridge and Oxford looking at this sort of stuff, Klopp brought them in. And they tell the lads not to take long-range potshots because statistically it is almost a total waste of time. Yes it makes football more predictable and boring, and if that'd been the script in 2006 and Stevie had followed instruction, he'd never have lashed in those goals against West Ham and we'd have lost the cup final.

      But that's how the game is run these days whether you or I like it or not (long range shooting was my best attribute when I played so I'd hate to see it disappear from the game). We've got an injury-prone player who barely ever plays, doesn't fit the system no matter where you try to fit him in, and whose best asset is long shots which the players are told by the analysts not to be arsed with.

      And people want to keep him at the club?  ???

      Can anyone remember the last time one of our players took a shot from more than about 22 yards? I can't. It might even be Ox all the way back in that City game. I don't think I've ever seen Gini take one and that's cos he plays to his instructions. Fabinho's clearly got a good long ranger on him but hardly ever uses it, again because he plays to instructions.

      Sadly it's the way football is going, tactics determined by people with rocket science degrees. Most of my favourite moments in football over the years have been people lashing shots in from miles out. First one and still hard to beat was Arie Haan for Holland in the 1978 World Cup. That's some strike. But the analysts would say "ah but that's a one-in-a-million shot, you need to be playing a simple pass out to the wing". And that's why we've got Gini Wijnaldum, doing exactly that, and people pissing and moaning that "he doesn't do anything". Nope he doesn't do anything except play to instruction for a team that clocked up the highest number of points in LFC history for 2 years running. That's still not enough for some people.

      We might need someone to have a dig from distance tomorrow, when Fat Sam parks his buses, but it won't be Ox as he's injured again. Maybe Trent if he's in the sort of mood he was in in the second half against United.

      What did Alex do to you brother?? Let it out, we're all here for you.
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      Re: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Player Thread
      Reply #853: May 20, 2021 10:22:03 am
      Very pleased with his goal last night, feels like to me that is a pure distillation of what he provides that the rest of the midfield doesn't, great striking off both feet and a bit more trickery in the box.

      Hopefully, he can stay injury free.

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