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      Alisson Becker Player Thread

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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #540: Dec 03, 2018 12:40:04 am
      He's becoming a very good shot stopper and had a very good game for me.

      More than just a shot stopper Keith, has a lot more to his game than just that.
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #541: Dec 03, 2018 02:20:40 am
      Worth every penny. We basically stole him.
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      Reply #542: Dec 03, 2018 04:51:55 pm
      Disagree.
      I think he's behind De Gea, much as it pains me to say it.

      IMO there's De Gea, then another 2 or 3 at a level down (of which Alisson is one), then the rest.
      What a cr*ck of sh*t.
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #543: Dec 03, 2018 04:54:07 pm

      No it’s not - De Gea has proven himself consistently over at least 5 years - Alisson has had 13 games and whilst signs are good he still needs to prove himself over a consistent timelength before he can be compared alongside De Gea
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #544: Dec 03, 2018 04:54:34 pm

      Yup our Alisson is most definitely De Gea's level.
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      Reply #545: Dec 03, 2018 04:55:35 pm
      No it’s not - De Gea has proven himself consistently over at least 5 years - Alisson has had 13 games and whilst signs are good he still needs to prove himself over a consistent timelength before he can be compared alongside De Gea

      Alisson was the best keeper in Serie A last season.
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      Reply #546: Dec 03, 2018 05:00:57 pm
      Alisson was the best keeper in Serie A last season.

      Did he let in the least amount of goals then ? Get a golden gloves or was that just a statement of opinion as opposed to fact ?
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      Reply #547: Dec 03, 2018 05:21:50 pm
      Did he let in the least amount of goals then ? Get a golden gloves or was that just a statement of opinion as opposed to fact ?

      He finished second in the clean sheet department last season with 17 behind Pepe Reina on 18.

      The average time it took before he conceded was 119 minutes a good 5 minutes better than Pepe.

      Oh and for the sake of comparison last season DDG got 18 clean sheets and also had a 119 minutes per goal conceded stat.
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      Reply #548: Dec 03, 2018 05:25:44 pm
      He finished second in the clean sheet department last season with 17 behind Pepe Reina on 18.

      The average time it took before he conceded was 119 minutes a good 5 minutes better than Pepe.

      Oh and for the sake of comparison last season DDG got 18 clean sheets and also had a 119 minutes per goal conceded stat.

      It’s different leagues - totally different set ups and level of play.

      Alisson is now in a league which is far superior and the demands far higher - De Gea has be at the top of the tree in that league for at least 5 years , Alisson needs to produce a high level consistently over a significant period and then can be considered alongside the best in the World
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #549: Dec 03, 2018 06:03:54 pm
      Who gives a sh*t ,he’s a massive massive upgrade on the two we had , that’ll do for starters , would agree Manc or not DDG has been at the top for a while in fact he’s been the only thing keeping them cu*ts  up there .
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      Reply #550: Dec 03, 2018 06:06:37 pm
      Again, it pains me to say it, but De Gea is, at this time, the best in the world.

      Alisson isn't that far behind, and you could make a case for a couple of others I guess, but De Gea is the standout 'keeper.
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #551: Dec 03, 2018 06:07:24 pm
      Who gives a sh*t ,he’s a massive massive upgrade on the two we had , that’ll do for starters , would agree Manc or not DDG has been at the top for a while in fact he’s been the only thing keeping them cu*ts  up there .

      And that's why it pains me to say he's the best.
      He's probably worth at least 15 points a season for them even with their bus parking.
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #552: Dec 03, 2018 06:30:26 pm
      It’s different leagues - totally different set ups and level of play.

      Alisson is now in a league which is far superior and the demands far higher - De Gea has be at the top of the tree in that league for at least 5 years , Alisson needs to produce a high level consistently over a significant period and then can be considered alongside the best in the World

      Piss off mate, just because it's a different league with different style of play it doesn't mean he's facing less or some how worse shots.

      Fair enough he has to do it consistently, but last season and the form he is showing so far surely he is up there with the best in the world.
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #553: Dec 03, 2018 06:34:35 pm
      Did he let in the least amount of goals then ? Get a golden gloves or was that just a statement of opinion as opposed to fact ?

      It’s painful reading your posts.
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #554: Dec 03, 2018 06:43:01 pm
      Did he let in the least amount of goals then ? Get a golden gloves or was that just a statement of opinion as opposed to fact ?
      Since Alisson has been in the premier league, Alisson has had the best stats. There's no arguing this fact.
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #555: Dec 03, 2018 06:53:14 pm
      Degea is an incredible goalkeeper probably the best shot stopper around because he has had to be. But I wouldn't sawp him because its clear to me that Becker reads the game so well like an outfield player he is so quick to release the ball and set up attacks even yesterday running out of goal to move the ball 10 yards for Trent was just genius stuff.
      We have got someone really really special 5 goals conceded in 14 games is just incredible and he and the back 4 are a team in themselves
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      Reply #556: Dec 03, 2018 06:59:26 pm
      Piss off mate, just because it's a different league with different style of play it doesn't mean he's facing less or some how worse shots.

      Fair enough he has to do it consistently, but last season and the form he is showing so far surely he is up there with the best in the world.

      Piss off ? Interesting response

      Last season we scored how many past him ? Serie A is a poor standard beyond the top 2 maybe three - the rest of the league are pretty much piss poor and he could go games without facing shots which help some random stat

      Stats don’t tell a full story and they can be used to mask or suggest anything - Alisson was a good keeper at Roma , he made mistakes and he also let him a few poor goals he should have saved , he has also made mistakes for us.

      He is a superb keeper prob going to be one of our best but he has a bit to go yet to be alongside DDG who along with Oblak are the two best in the world - Alisson is the next one down the list with Ederson and prob Donnarumma and Courtois

      DDG season after season has kept the Mancs somewhere near the top 4 - without him they would be bottom half of the table
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #557: Dec 03, 2018 07:00:49 pm
      It’s painful reading your posts.

      Coming from you that’s such a deep insult
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      Reply #558: Dec 03, 2018 07:02:29 pm
      Jaysus things become so polarised in here now.

      All the lad is saying - not unreasonably in my opinion - is that Alisson is a smashing keeper / signing.

      BUT

      Whilst we’re delighted to have him - it’s a wee bit premature to call him best in the world / league against De Gea’s body of work.

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      Reply #559: Dec 03, 2018 07:03:35 pm
      Since Alisson has been in the premier league, Alisson has had the best stats. There's no arguing this fact.

      Which stat is that then ?
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      Reply #560: Dec 03, 2018 07:05:44 pm
      Jaysus things become so polarised in here now.

      All the lad is saying - not unreasonably in my opinion - is that Alisson is a smashing keeper / signing.

      BUT

      Whilst we’re delighted to have him - it’s a wee bit premature to call him best in the world / league against De Gea’s body of work.

      Spot on - didn’t realise it was that hard to understand for some
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #561: Dec 03, 2018 07:10:08 pm
      Lets all just agree Alisson “this season so far” is better than De Gea.

      Stats don’t lie and also De Gea was sh*te for Spain at the WC.

      End of argument.
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #562: Dec 03, 2018 07:11:30 pm
      Lets all just agree Alisson “this season so far” is better than De Gea.

      Stats don’t lie and also De Gea was sh*te for Spain at the WC.

      End of argument.

      Equally fair 👍
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      Reply #563: Dec 03, 2018 07:12:41 pm
      And that's why it pains me to say he's the best.
      He's probably worth at least 15 points a season for them even with their bus parking.

      Alisson is a fabulous upgrade to what we had , and in time could surpass DDG , to do that he’s going to have to get to top of the tree , pains me to say this as I dislike them fckers with a passion but anyone who thinks DDG is not top of the heap is either on a wind up or knows Fck all about the game .
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      Reply #564: Dec 03, 2018 07:22:31 pm
      Coming from you that’s such a deep insult

      Good
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      Reply #565: Dec 03, 2018 07:27:10 pm
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #566: Dec 03, 2018 07:53:09 pm

      I totally agree with you but not the choice of words.

      I think Becker is better keeper at the moment and he now needs to continue to show all the English football.
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #567: Dec 03, 2018 09:50:09 pm
      Who gives a sh*t ,he’s a massive massive upgrade on the two we had , that’ll do for starters , would agree Manc or not DDG has been at the top for a while in fact he’s been the only thing keeping them cu*ts  up there .

      Exactly mate who gives a sh*t? De Gea will be off to Madrid within a year, hopefully and we will have Alisson for the next 10 years.
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      Reply #568: Dec 03, 2018 11:42:25 pm
      Exactly mate who gives a sh*t? De Gea will be off to Madrid within a year, hopefully and we will have Alisson for the next 10 years.
      Can’t see him going to Madrid tbh they’ve got courtois now so that particular avenue is blocked ,unless of course you meant Athletici which on the whole would still be an upgrade from the scum 😁
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #569: Dec 04, 2018 12:14:32 am
      Can’t see him going to Madrid tbh they’ve got courtois now so that particular avenue is blocked ,unless of course you meant Athletici which on the whole would still be an upgrade from the scum 😁

      I think he’s in the Pepe Reina mode being fed up of playing in a sh*t team for a dour uninspiring Manager

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