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      Alisson Becker Player Thread

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      heimdall
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #800: Apr 10, 2019 04:23:50 pm
      I was looking back at my previous posts and earlier in the season I said I’d have him in the top 3 in the world with Oblak and De Gea so I have nothing against him I’m just commenting on what I’m seeing - a tendency for rashness and not great distribution. I get you could make an argument he is ahead of Ederson in other departments but Ederson wipes the floor with him in distribution

      OK so earlier in the season you had him as the top 3 in the world yet now he's only a minor upgrade on Migs, come on mate, reread what you write before clicking post!!!
      You really are doing yourself no favours here. As you know I am all for going against the grain and not just blindly following the herd BUT only if you can coherently argue your case, not as Scotia says just to get some attention.

      IF you rated Alisson earlier in the season then there is absolutely no reason why you should not rate him now, even if he has had a few subpar games, and by subpar I still mean what would rank as a SUPERB game for Migs or Karius.
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #801: Apr 10, 2019 04:25:06 pm
      it’s why the forum died a death years ago

      Yet you still come on here. If it’s that bad on here then don’t log in, simple as that really. It’s not a case of people not being allowed different opinions but do you not think that you appear to be be in the very tiny minority regarding Alisson, you may just be looking at something which isn’t there to try and pick fault. Just remember that had it not been for Alisson, we’d have been playing Thursday nights instead. He’s proven his worth time over this season and proven he’s a massive upgrade on what we had.

      Just remember, even Van Dijk has made mistakes this season, he was as much to blame for the Fulham goal as Alisson.
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      Reply #802: Apr 10, 2019 04:27:05 pm
      OK so earlier in the season you had him as the top 3 in the world yet now he's only a minor upgrade on Migs, come on mate, reread what you write before clicking post!!!
      You really are doing yourself no favours here. As you know I am all for going against the grain and not just blindly following the herd BUT only if you can coherently argue your case, not as Scotia says just to get some attention.

      IF you rated Alisson earlier in the season then there is absolutely no reason why you should not rate him now, even if he has had a few subpar games, and by subpar I still mean what would rank as a SUPERB game for Migs or Karius.

      I’m allowed to change my mind he’s not at this moment the keeper I thought he was. The very best keepers make a few mistakes per season he’s making mistakes in every game just now
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #803: Apr 10, 2019 04:33:51 pm
      Yet you still come on here. If it’s that bad on here then don’t log in, simple as that really. It’s not a case of people not being allowed different opinions but do you not think that you appear to be be in the very tiny minority regarding Alisson, you may just be looking at something which isn’t there to try and pick fault. Just remember that had it not been for Alisson, we’d have been playing Thursday nights instead. He’s proven his worth time over this season and proven he’s a massive upgrade on what we had.

      Just remember, even Van Dijk has made mistakes this season, he was as much to blame for the Fulham goal as Alisson.


      I take your point on VVD it’s a fair one. I just think keepers are a different breed, mistakes punished or unpunished shouldn’t be as regular an occurrence as they are with him. I think we miss Gomez. As much as I take my hat off to Matip (and Lovern) for how they’ve filled in since Gomez got injured, we slightly miss the composure and pace of Gomez
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #804: Apr 10, 2019 04:57:37 pm
      Why do you say he has had more protection than Migs, do you mean VVD as the rest of the defence have been there for a bit and as for Karius he had the exact same protection yet was worse?  Has it occurred to you that one of the reasons why VVD and the rest of the defence has improved so much this season is because they finally has a goalkeeper they can rely on.
      So I'll ask the question I ask all critics of Allison, which you might be surprised to hear is a very small group! Who in your opinion is better in the premiership and can you back that up with any stats?

      Because he does, and even a super hyperbolic person as yourself should be seeing this. Do you not remember the early years of Klopp, where we'd give up high quality chances every game? or could not defend a set piece? back then people were saying Klopp only knows how to attack, has no plan b, that we could not hold a lead, etc, etc? How quickly you forget.

      Van Dijk coming aboard has been the single most important addition to how we defend and set up. Just for the shits and giggles, how many teams allowed fewer goals than us the 2nd half (19 games) of last season? name them

      Then we have this season, where we've added Fabinho and Klopp himself has said we are more methodical and conservative than in the past, which everyone has seen with their very own eyes. When has Migs played with such a cohesive defensive unit / team?

      I know i know, you will take this as me saying Migs =/> Alisson, but i am not. I am simply stating that the circumstances under which each of them played when they were/are the #1 are vastly differemt.
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #805: Apr 10, 2019 05:36:19 pm
      Scares the f**king sh*t out of me.

      Just stop f**king around with the ball and get it away from the danger area please!

      He's a bit like Grobbelaar, you've just got to take the crazy arse moments along with the sublime saves he makes.
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      Reply #806: Apr 10, 2019 05:48:28 pm
      If anyone wants to question the difference between the two - Alisson and Ming - then first watch the goals Ming used to let in regularly, many of them where close to him but he reacted too slow and his actions always seem to be after the ball had passed. Then watch Alisson - always seems to get something on it , shots close to him get stopped and his reactions are very sharp - go back to the save against Napoli last minute , that’s a save Ming wouldn’t have made.

      Alisson has the odd Grobs moment - oh well , every keeper will have the moment. Alisson is alongside De Gea and Oblak as the best in the world
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #807: Apr 10, 2019 06:58:35 pm
      He's a bit like Grobbelaar, you've just got to take the crazy arse moments along with the sublime saves he makes.

      Not sure why we have too though. Be nice if he released it half a second earlier and that shouldn't impact on his ability to save shots.
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #808: Apr 10, 2019 07:03:33 pm
      Because he does, and even a super hyperbolic person as yourself should be seeing this. Do you not remember the early years of Klopp, where we'd give up high quality chances every game? or could not defend a set piece? back then people were saying Klopp only knows how to attack, has no plan b, that we could not hold a lead, etc, etc? How quickly you forget.

      Van Dijk coming aboard has been the single most important addition to how we defend and set up. Just for the shits and giggles, how many teams allowed fewer goals than us the 2nd half (19 games) of last season? name them

      Then we have this season, where we've added Fabinho and Klopp himself has said we are more methodical and conservative than in the past, which everyone has seen with their very own eyes. When has Migs played with such a cohesive defensive unit / team?

      I know i know, you will take this as me saying Migs =/> Alisson, but i am not. I am simply stating that the circumstances under which each of them played when they were/are the #1 are vastly differemt.

      Alisson is in a different league to Mignolet in terms of shot stopping and distribution irrespective of what defence is in front of them it's not even up for debate.
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #809: Apr 10, 2019 07:07:41 pm
      Alisson is in a different league to Mignolet in terms of shot stopping and distribution irrespective of what defence is in front of them it's not even up for debate.

      And far better looking!!!
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #810: Apr 10, 2019 07:13:33 pm
      Alisson is in a different league to Mignolet in terms of shot stopping and distribution irrespective of what defence is in front of them it's not even up for debate.

      and who is debating it? can't you read?
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #811: Apr 22, 2019 05:01:09 pm
      Why does everyone call him Alisson?

      The name on the back of his shirt says Becker.
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      Re: Alisson Becker Player Thread
      Reply #812: Apr 22, 2019 05:25:15 pm
      Why does everyone call him Alisson?

      The name on the back of his shirt says Becker.

      Because he is also known as Alisson



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