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      Curtis Jones Player Thread (M)

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      srslfc
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      Re: Curtis Jones Player Thread (M)
      Reply #483: Oct 24, 2022 10:45:18 pm
      At around the same age:

      Steven Gerrard 94 appearances 11 goals

      Curtis Jones 77 appearances 8 goals.

      Not saying he's anywhere near what Stevie was for us but give the kid a chance.

      And he's only coming back from injury where before it looked like he had been trying to be moulded into a more conservative midfield player.

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      Reply #484: Oct 24, 2022 11:35:17 pm
      not really a great reference for a team wanting to challenge for trophies. He has had plenty of chances and Jürgen and he said.
      I had a long talk last week with Curtis, ­because I love the boy and I love the potential he has.

      “But we have to now really make the next steps and make sure that he fulfils the potential he has on the pitch.

      “You have these kinds of conversations when you are not 100 percent happy with the moment.

      “He’s young, very young, but from what I see his ­potential is just incredible. So we have to find a way to show that much more often.
      So he is on notice potential has to eventually produce.

      Not saying Curtis is going to be a fixture for years to come. He hasn't really progressed as hoped.
      But he might be someone who can contribute this season, certainly compared to some others who haven't even been able to cross the white line yet.
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      Reply #485: Oct 24, 2022 11:50:24 pm
      Surely there should be a pang of excitement when you see their name on the teamsheet, I just don't get it with Curtis. He needs to create an identity....be someone you want to watch, as opposed to don't mind watching.
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      Re: Curtis Jones Player Thread (M)
      Reply #486: Oct 25, 2022 09:29:13 am
      At around the same age:

      Steven Gerrard 94 appearances 11 goals

      Curtis Jones 77 appearances 8 goals.

      Not saying he's anywhere near what Stevie was for us but give the kid a chance.

      And he's only coming back from injury where before it looked like he had been trying to be moulded into a more conservative midfield player.

      Good post

      I don't think stats in isolation tell us much but it's good to see the comparison with Stevie G.

      Jones, Elliot and Carvalho are getting a lot of attention currently because the team is not playing well. But I think they still need a few years to develop, we can't expect them to come in and carry the team to a 100% winning record needed to keep up with Man City.

      Also, as you say, his style of play appears to be changing. Klopp appears to want Jones and Elliot to become hard working CM. When they were younger they appeared to be wingers or forwards.
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      Re: Curtis Jones Player Thread (M)
      Reply #487: Oct 25, 2022 01:36:40 pm
      good player. Just needs a run of game now to get back upto speed.
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      Re: Curtis Jones Player Thread (M)
      Reply #488: Oct 25, 2022 01:41:49 pm
      We would all love him to make it and he can have some great moments (away at spurs during covid where Firmino scored a last minute winner comes to my mind).

      I just feel he chooses the wrong option too often and he also slows the play down in those moments you really want to move the ball quicker
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      Re: Curtis Jones Player Thread (M)
      Reply #489: Oct 25, 2022 06:45:29 pm
      Constantly slows the game down no a fan
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      Re: Curtis Jones Player Thread (M)
      Reply #490: Oct 26, 2022 04:46:52 am
      Constantly slows the game down no a fan

      Dead on. Holds on to the ball so long. Elliot breakthrough seemed to have put pressure on him to respond and he hasn't dealt with it well.
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      Reply #491: Oct 26, 2022 05:23:55 pm
      Dead on. Holds on to the ball so long. Elliot breakthrough seemed to have put pressure on him to respond and he hasn't dealt with it well.
      Give him a break, he's still only 21. Has had some pretty lengthy injuries.
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      Reply #492: Oct 26, 2022 07:07:15 pm
      Give him a break, he's still only 21. Has had some pretty lengthy injuries.

      I'm not giving up on him, just saying he seems to have not dealt with Elliots competition in the squad. He definitely has a skillet that will be useful to the squad if it's ever tapped into. I agree his injuries have held him back
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      Re: Curtis Jones Player Thread (M)
      Reply #493: Oct 26, 2022 07:50:52 pm
      Way too early to write him off yet. Can be very frustrating to watch but the same can be said for all our midfielders this Season. With so many injuries we have had no settlement within the midfield unit so quite hard to pass judgement on any players really.

      There's no doubt he is a talented player, the onus is on him to show it consistently. If he wants it badly enough he will get it.
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      Re: Curtis Jones Player Thread (M)
      Reply #494: Oct 26, 2022 09:53:45 pm
      Pretty good cameo that tonight.
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      Reply #495: Oct 26, 2022 10:05:10 pm
      Pretty good cameo that tonight.

      he needs to be brave he can do it  and what a bonus if he get himself sorted and starts to challenge for a spot
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      Re: Curtis Jones Player Thread (M)
      Reply #496: Nov 17, 2022 11:25:10 am
      New contract incoming for Jones.
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      Re: Curtis Jones Player Thread (M)
      Reply #497: Nov 17, 2022 04:03:16 pm
      He is a decent squad player and even if he never becomes a first choice he can deputise plus we still need home produced qota to fill.
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      Re: Curtis Jones Player Thread (M)
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      Re: Curtis Jones Player Thread (M)
      Reply #499: Nov 17, 2022 04:28:50 pm
      Good on him!
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      Re: Curtis Jones Player Thread (M)
      Reply #500: Nov 17, 2022 04:33:42 pm
      He is a decent squad player and even if he never becomes a first choice he can deputise plus we still need home produced qota to fill.

      Yep. Whilst I don't have the same expectations for him as I used to, he is a reasonable squad player and a Scouser who is happy to be called upon when needed. Perhaps he can even aspire to be our new James Milner one day.
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      Re: Curtis Jones Player Thread (M)
      Reply #501: Nov 17, 2022 04:46:25 pm
      Why? Why? Why?  :f_wah:

      Only hope is we did it to sell at a higher value.
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      Re: Curtis Jones Player Thread (M)
      Reply #502: Nov 17, 2022 04:49:02 pm
      18mths /2years to prove he has what it takes and will still be in contract should it not work to get a decent fee. Hope it works out but the jury still out for me
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      Re: Curtis Jones Player Thread (M)
      Reply #503: Nov 17, 2022 08:00:49 pm
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      Re: Curtis Jones Player Thread (M)
      Reply #504: Nov 18, 2022 08:09:00 pm
      I know it's not the cool thing to say but I'm delighted.

      He's going to be a very good player and great to have in the squad.
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      Re: Curtis Jones Player Thread (M)
      Reply #505: Nov 23, 2022 04:36:42 am
      Curtis Jones has not lived up to the high expectations. If he did we would be in a much better position today, for sure. We need a good midfielder with creativity and showing leadership, and Curtis Jones has unfortunately not been of much help there so far, that's why Elliott or Carvalho have been shining there, not him. But, let's keep faith in him and support him. He can't do worse than Keita and Ox over several years, right?

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