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      MIRO
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      Throw In Coach Thomas Gronnemark
      Sep 04, 2018 06:17:19 pm
      Our new  Throw In Coach

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45405476



      Thomas Gronnemark was perhaps the most surprising arrival at Liverpool this season after a summer of big spending on the likes of Alisson, Fabinho and Naby Keita.

      Even manager Jürgen Klopp admitted he had never heard of a throw-in coach before employing the Dane.

      The appointment of the 42-year-old, who also holds the world record for the longest throw-in at 51.33m, raised eyebrows and was mocked by TV pundit Andy Gray.

      "I know it is totally the weirdest job in the world," Gronnemark, who thinks he is the world's first throw-in specialist, told BBC Sport.

      Former Stoke midfielder Rory Delap may be the best known exponent of the long throw-in in the Premier League era, but Gronnemark says his brief at Anfield is "not to turn Liverpool into the second Stoke".

      As he explains, there is more than meets the eye to the humble throw-in and it's a skill that when mastered can lead to goals and even "save the life" of a team.

      "I saw Joe Gomez take some really good throws for Liverpool that I had not seen him do before, he was fizzing it in there," said former Arsenal striker Ian Wright on Radio 5 live's Monday Night Club.

      "It looks like he [Gronnemark] has taught him something. You have to say Liverpool will benefit from that."

      Klopp believes Gronnemark has "already made a difference" with his work at Melwood.

      "To be honest, I'd never heard about a throw-in coach," said the German. "When I heard about Thomas, it was clear to me I wanted to meet him; when I met him, it was 100% cent clear I wanted to employ him."

      Gronnemark, who has been working with teams since 2004, said Klopp contacted him as he was "curious" about his work and he says it is a "dream" job.

      "If I was a defender I would not want to be on the end of one of Gomez's throw-ins," said Gronnemark.

      "In general against Liverpool I would not want to put the ball out for a throw-in. I am not saying Liverpool will do a lot of long throw-ins, but you never know when they may do it."


      Gronnemark estimates there are 40-50 throw-ins in a game and in Saturday's 2-1 win against Leicester, Liverpool had 54 - their role and importance, he says, are "underestimated" unlike other set-pieces.

      "If you are expecting professional footballers to be world-class throwers without coaching then you are pretty optimistic," he continues. "Generally the standard is quite poor.

      "A focus on throw-ins can save the life of small clubs, as a technique to survive.

      "But at the top of the league, it can help with a more fluent style of play. No matter what position in the league, throw-ins are an advantage."

      Gronnemark teaches three types of throw-in - the long throw-in, the fast throw-in - which can launch counter-attacks - and the clever throw-in, which is about keeping possession under pressure.

      "I focus on everything you can imagine," adds Gronnemark, a former international sprinter who was in the Danish athletics and bobsleigh teams. "It is not just the technique of the throw, but how to receive it, how to make the right runs, the positioning, creating space."

      Aside from his freelance work with Liverpool, Gronnemark also coaches at Danish top-flights clubs FC Midtjylland and AC Horsens, and in the German Bundesliga.

      Midtjylland, who won the Danish title last year, and Horsen scored 10 goals each last season from long throw-ins.

      Danish left-back Andreas Poulsen, who joined Borussia Monchengladbach from Midtjylland, improved his long throw from 25m to 37.9m under Gronnemark's coaching.

      Gronnemark says there are 25-30 technical aspects to a long throw and he uses video analysis to make improvements, which can see players improve their distance by four to eight metres on average and double the throwing area. Flexible, rather than strong players, are best at throw-ins and it is an essential skill for a full-back.

      "If Liverpool score a goal or two from long throws that would be perfect for me," said Gronnemark." But even more so if it comes as a result of a fast throw or clever throw."

      According to Opta, there have been just 20 goals scored from a "throw-in scenario" in the Premier League in the last five seasons and one scored so far in 2018-19.

      Last season, Liverpool had just three shots from throw-ins, while Leicester City led the way with 14.

      Goals from fast throws and clever throws are impossible to measure, but Gronnemark says these have a "greater impact" on the game and can make the game faster and more entertaining.

      "If you have more possession, you have a greater chance of winning a game," says Gronnemark. "Sometimes set-pieces develop into set-pieces like corners and free-kicks and they help build pressure."
      'I can make fun of myself'

      "I'm sorry, a throw-in coach? Here's the ball, pick it up with both hands, take it behind your head and throw it with both feet on the ground," said former Scotland striker Gray in his criticism of Gronnemark's appointment.

      Gronnemark says he didn't have a problem with Gray's comments, but felt the ex-Wolves player could have looked into what his job entailed.

      "I know it is the weirdest job in the world," says Gronnemark, who has been fascinated by throw-ins since he was a child and has developed his own coaching course to fill the gap in the market.

      "I am the world record holder and the world-leading expert, but I am not too big to make fun of myself."

      He says some players he works with are "surprised" by his role and have a "bit of a laugh".

      One request Gronnemark often gets is to replicate his world record throw achieved with a front flip in 2010, but he says he has eaten "too many cakes" to attempt it these days.

      Iran defender Milad Mohammadi attempted a similar feat during the World Cup as they looked for a last-minute equaliser against Portugal - but failed.

      "His run-up was too slow," said Gronnemark. "It was a funny situation, but he must have had some bottle to try to make a flip throw-in, but I know it is the hardest thing to do in football."




      If it gives us an edge then all for it.

      (We all know who Andy Gray used to play for which goes with his comments)

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p06k71lk   Clip.

      « Last Edit: Sep 04, 2018 06:21:24 pm by MIRO »
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      Re: Throw In Coach Thomas Gronnemark
      Reply #1: Sep 04, 2018 07:00:19 pm


      Remember Klopp saying something earlier this summer about this guy.

      Something for us to keep an eye on.  Not really noticed us having any throw in problems - wonder how far Shaqiri can launch it!
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      Re: Throw In Coach Thomas Gronnemark
      Reply #2: Sep 04, 2018 07:30:19 pm
      Raises a valid point, turning a throw into a set piece..maybe there is more to this art than meets the eye, could be valuable to us & other top clubs could soon follow suit if the results from our throw in’s yield solid results..

      👍 from me
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      Reply #3: Sep 04, 2018 08:29:35 pm
      Any input on maximising a particular skill is an extra advantage and threat we can possess. It annoys me how nearly all teams never take a quick throw in, it is one aspect of the game that hardly ever gets exploited. Quick throw ins can exploit defences that are slow to reset. A welcome addition to the team and hopefully a useful asset.

      P.S. Andy Gray is an absolute clown..........
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      Re: Throw In Coach Thomas Gronnemark
      Reply #4: Sep 04, 2018 10:41:10 pm
      Good move and why not
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      Reply #5: Sep 05, 2018 12:37:49 am


      Remember Klopp saying something earlier this summer about this guy.

      Something for us to keep an eye on.  Not really noticed us having any throw in problems - wonder how far Shaqiri can launch it!

      Just realised he looks like Ian ‘H’ Watkins from Steps 😂


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      Reply #6: Sep 05, 2018 06:53:54 am
      Just realised he looks like Ian ‘H’ Watkins from Steps 😂




      Hope you had to google his name Shabs and you didn't know it already !
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      Re: Throw In Coach Thomas Gronnemark
      Reply #7: Sep 05, 2018 10:11:13 am
      At last some fresh thinking in football and we can start treating a throw in as a free kick, if anything with a throw in you should be able to be even more accurate than a freekick, certainly in terms of trajectory.

      Now can we maybe get in an expert on corners as well.
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      Reply #8: Sep 05, 2018 10:36:21 am
      I like this. For years I have thought our throw ins are sh*te. We take ages taking them and always end up with everybody tightly marked. This guy will not just be talking about the technique of the throw itself, but about movement, positioning and timing so that you create space to receive the ball in.

      If it gets you 1 more goal, or loses you 1 less goal, over a season, that could be 2 points that makes the difference between 1st and 2nd. In truth, having well worked throw ins is probably worth more than 2 points.
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      Re: Throw In Coach Thomas Gronnemark
      Reply #9: Sep 05, 2018 11:52:06 am
      Hope you had to google his name Shabs and you didn't know it already !

      I confess I had to google the name..had him mixed up with Lee ☺️
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      Re: Throw In Coach Thomas Gronnemark
      Reply #10: Sep 05, 2018 01:57:09 pm
      It won't do any harm so why not. I can only see postive from it.
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      Reply #11: Sep 05, 2018 03:10:26 pm
      Any input on maximising a particular skill is an extra advantage and threat we can possess. It annoys me how nearly all teams never take a quick throw in, it is one aspect of the game that hardly ever gets exploited. Quick throw ins can exploit defences that are slow to reset. A welcome addition to the team and hopefully a useful asset.

      P.S. Andy Gray is an absolute clown..........

      P.S. Andy Gray is a complete kunt.........



      .....there, fixed it for ya mate.





      Turning throw-ins into a set piece gives us more chances to score, if that's not looking forward or giving a advantage then i don't know what is,....


      I'm betting that once we have scored a few by these means others will follow suit,
      Oh and just for the record Andy Gray is a kunt, he lives in the past with his so called expertise, he's a washed up dip sh*t pundit, who for the most part talks out of his chocolate starfish!!


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      Reply #12: Sep 06, 2018 12:13:38 am
      I reckon this guy is part hypnotist to be honest, but if Klopp likes him then I love him!
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      Reply #13: Sep 06, 2018 02:22:03 am
      I'd have liked more the aquisition of a data scientist that could analyze our stats more deeper to uncover hidden tendencies. Or a guy that perfectionates our penalties. That matters.
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      Reply #14: Sep 06, 2018 04:49:06 am
      i haven't paid close attention to throw-ins specifically so far this season, but i do remember very clearly Trent Alexander-Arnold constantly creeping up the line without consequence, must've gained 10 meters honestly
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      Reply #15: Sep 06, 2018 09:45:02 am
      Has to be more of an understanding between players in term of creating space. Players interacting, little false runs, better coordination all round. Not obviously just about the long throw but more about not giving away possession unnecessarily. Innovative move by Klopp.
      Throw in of the season...thought appeals.

      Down side is won't be able to crack jokes about Everton having a Christmas video out....100 great throw ins..
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      Reply #16: Sep 06, 2018 09:59:54 am
      Mourinho...." what..... a throw in coach...listen to me...we are paying these guys £250K a week...a week...now you tell me they can't take a F'kin throw in...Jesus Christ almighty....give me a F'kin break.....you guys crack me up..."

       :mad:
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      Re: Throw In Coach Thomas Gronnemark
      Reply #17: Sep 06, 2018 08:49:53 pm
      P.S. Andy Gray is a complete kunt.........



      .....there, fixed it for ya mate.





      Turning throw-ins into a set piece gives us more chances to score, if that's not looking forward or giving a advantage then i don't know what is,....


      I'm betting that once we have scored a few by these means others will follow suit,
      Oh and just for the record Andy Gray is a kunt, he lives in the past with his so called expertise, he's a washed up dip sh*t pundit, who for the most part talks out of his chocolate starfish!!


      YNWA

      Thanks billy.

       :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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      Reply #18: Sep 07, 2018 01:32:10 pm
      Remember Klopp saying something earlier this summer about this guy.

      Something for us to keep an eye on.  Not really noticed us having any throw in problems - wonder how far Shaqiri can launch it!

      Trent takes an age with his throw ins. And never finds a man. That has always annoyed me.
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      Reply #19: Nov 18, 2018 04:17:35 pm
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/44932443/page/2



      80 mins
      Post update

      England 1-1 Croatia

      Liverpool's throwing coach has made an impact!

      ........................ ................

      78 mins
      GOAL - England 1-1 Croatia

      Jesse Lingard

      Joe Gomez sends in a huge throw from the right-hand side and it manages to bounce its way through to the back post.

      Harry Kane slides in to poke it towards goal but Jesse Lingard needs to touch it over the line before Dejan Lovren is able to recover.

      Game on.




      Monster throw from Gomez for Lindgard to score the England equalizer.
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      Reply #20: Nov 19, 2018 05:17:33 am
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/44932443/page/2



      80 mins
      Post update

      England 1-1 Croatia

      Liverpool's throwing coach has made an impact!

      ........................ ................

      78 mins
      GOAL - England 1-1 Croatia

      Jesse Lingard

      Joe Gomez sends in a huge throw from the right-hand side and it manages to bounce its way through to the back post.

      Harry Kane slides in to poke it towards goal but Jesse Lingard needs to touch it over the line before Dejan Lovren is able to recover.

      Game on.




      Monster throw from Gomez for Lindgard to score the England equalizer.

      Yeah it would have been even better if he wasn't a meter over the line when he threw it.
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      Reply #21: Nov 19, 2018 10:42:40 am
      Yeah it would have been even better if he wasn't a meter over the line when he threw it.

      ^This
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      Reply #22: Nov 19, 2018 12:14:15 pm
      The key to good throw-ins is equally strong arms. My right arm is a lot stronger than my left, makes my throw-ins lob sided.

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      Reply #23: Nov 19, 2018 12:19:58 pm
      The key to good throw-ins is equally strong arms. My right arm is a lot stronger than my left, makes my throw-ins lob sided.



      How is your right arm stronger, is it your drinking arm ?
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      Reply #24: Nov 19, 2018 12:32:37 pm
      How is your right arm stronger, is it your drinking arm ?
      yes, that's gotta be the reason!  :f_whistle: in all seriousness, I think it's more reading the game than a psychical thing. It's easy to throw a ball, but knowing where the ball will penetrate their back line is more difficult. It's easy to throw a ball and get a pass back. There's got to be more we can do with throw-ins, Gomez shown that against Croatia. If more of our players can be like Gomez it is good to have a coach.
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      Reply #25: Nov 19, 2018 12:38:57 pm
      The key to good throw-ins is equally strong arms. My right arm is a lot stronger than my left, makes my throw-ins lob sided.



      How is your right arm stronger, is it your drinking arm ?

      Which arm do you post with Ribs?
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      Reply #26: Nov 19, 2018 01:22:17 pm
      Yeah it would have been even better if he wasn't a meter over the line when he threw it.

      Sssshhhhhhh .....
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      Reply #27: Nov 19, 2018 01:26:48 pm
      yes, that's gotta be the reason!  :f_whistle: in all seriousness, I think it's more reading the game than a psychical thing. It's easy to throw a ball, but knowing where the ball will penetrate their back line is more difficult. It's easy to throw a ball and get a pass back. There's got to be more we can do with throw-ins, Gomez shown that against Croatia. If more of our players can be like Gomez it is good to have a coach.

      Rib . No good having a belated pop at Keith about his woz and his weres after I had already done it when you are going round dropping spelling bombs such as psychical physical in to the mix.
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      Reply #28: Nov 19, 2018 02:28:53 pm
      Rib . No good having a belated pop at Keith about his woz and his weres after I had already done it when you are going round dropping spelling bombs such as psychical physical in to the mix.
      MIRO, you were the first to pop at Keith about was or were. Woz isn't a word and neither is weres either, were can't have a plural. Physical is correct and 9/10 times I'd spell that correctly. You don't need to put 'his' twice.. the 'and' implied you were still writing about Keith. MIRO, for somebody who points out errors you really need to improve yourself.

      I would say 99% of my errors now come from swipe to text as it's quite inaccurate for choosing the correct words, but it's also 3-4 times faster to use.
      « Last Edit: Nov 19, 2018 02:35:04 pm by Ribapuru »
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      Reply #29: Nov 19, 2018 02:30:40 pm
      Which arm do you post with Ribs?

      "post" is a new term for it...
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      Reply #30: Nov 19, 2018 05:29:19 pm
      Which arm do you post with Ribs?

      I think which ever one is free
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      Reply #31: Nov 19, 2018 05:49:43 pm

      I would say 99% of my errors now come from swipe to text as it's quite inaccurate for choosing the correct words, but it's also 3-4 times faster to use.

      Which arm do you swipe with ?

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      Reply #32: Nov 20, 2018 03:48:08 pm
      The key to good throw-ins is equally strong arms. My right arm is a lot stronger than my left, makes my throw-ins lob sided.



      Yeah my throw ins are absolutely w*nk too.
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      Reply #33: Nov 23, 2018 02:11:48 am
      I've always thought we are the worlds worst when it comes to throw ins, always to someone who promptly passes it back to the thrower, regardless of the tight markings, (unless it's a Joe Gomez special)  do top players need a throw in coach?
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      Re: Throw In Coach Thomas Gronnemark
      Reply #34: Nov 23, 2018 02:44:38 am
      do top players need a throw in coach?

      Every little helps.

      Personally think we need a set piece specialist. Have lost our mojo since Coutinho left- we tend to just lump it in the middle hoping for Virgil to get on the end of it. Would like to see a bit more tactical nous and swagger.
      « Last Edit: Nov 23, 2018 10:04:22 am by Benito »
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      Reply #35: Nov 24, 2018 12:33:44 pm
      Every little helps.

      Personally think we need a set piece specialist. Have lost our mojo since Coutinho left- we tend to just lump it in the middle hoping for Virgil to get on the end of it. Would like to see a bit more tactical nous and swagger.

      Throw in coach..set piece specialist...corner coach...drinks minder...chair wiper...rock them to sleep artist..bring me,fetch me,carry me...muddy boots wiper...****...."now you know full well there is no such thing as mud in football.."

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