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      Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)

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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #100: Oct 06, 2018 02:12:54 pm
      But if we really want to win the PL we need to win this. MC is so damn reliable, we need some points being ahead. But you name it: our team as a whole is not in prime shape. First it was justified with the WC and players needing some time, but more and more we see now that we rely more on luck and an improved defense while midfield and attack stagnate. I begin to wonder if that is the Buvac effect, too early though to get worried, it's quite normal to have certain phases thru a season (except f**king MC, they look like robots).

      Those MC robots were made very average two weeks ago at home against Lyon. They have dropped points to the one decent side they played this year.

      You don't win titles in October.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #101: Oct 06, 2018 02:20:17 pm

      My youngest son was in hospital and just before the match we'd met with the Doctor and he answered a lot of questions we'd had and gave us overall good news, so he was finally out of pain and we had a big weight lifted off of us. I wouldn't have watched the match otherwise but as it was, the volume was muted and my son was sleeping comfortably for the first time in a few days.

      Now I'd been up without sleeping for a couple of days myself, and you still get nurses coming in every so often for paperwork, etc. so for the first half it's not like the most attentive I've ever been watching a match. You have to understand when I watch us play on TV it's normally full-throated, but with him finally resting I couldn't. So in the 2nd half, Bobby scores and I do a double fist pump, able to hold it in pretty well. When Sadio scores I'm out of my chair and flailing my arms about wildly and  just squeezing my mouth shut to keep any sound from getting out. I look over and a nurse has walked in and is giving me the strangest look. Then Mo scores and I stand up quickly, walk out of the room and down the hall into a family waiting area that thankfully was empty, and let out a "yeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh hhgeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeett ttttttttttttttttttttttti iiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnn nnnnnnnnnnyouuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuubeauuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuutyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyMMMMMMMMMMoooo oooooooooooooooooo."

      Later on the nurse asked me if I'd been getting enough rest and telling me I need to look after myself. I told her "Sweetheart, I am having a wonderful day and am feeling fine, thank you."  :)

      Something like that minus the illness would be just fine for tomorrow.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #102: Oct 06, 2018 02:57:42 pm

      Yes, Yes, and again: Yes. Somebody should print it out and send it to Jürgen. That is the formation that can win us PL/CL/FA. And Keita could even sting into that formation once he gets fully accustomed to us.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #103: Oct 06, 2018 04:04:32 pm
      City still crying about their f**king bus,poor babies.  :f_wah:  :kop5cf8koxp6:  :food-smiley-005:.F**k em up.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #104: Oct 06, 2018 07:07:30 pm
      If he starts the usual middle/front  [Gini, Milly, Hendo, Mane, Bob, Mo] reckon we 'might' struggle. You never can be sure though, Jürgen has a knack of getting lads up for the big games - but can only go on recent form.

      I'd bring in Studge and Shaq, and leave Hendo and Bob on the bench.  Maybe also bring in Clyne for Trent.

      The lads looked drained against Napoli, so hope Jürgen freshens things up. Not ideal that the next game is Shitty given our and their form, but don't see that putting the same set of lads out again is going to give a different result.
      Plus Studge and Shaq have done well, and possibly deserve to be starting on merit/form anyway.

      We need to at least get a point. And if we really want the title, reckon we need to win these games, cause how many points do you see City dropping along the way?!

      Jürgen is the man for the big match, so I expect the lads to be fully up for it.
      Huge game and REALLY looking forward to it - two teams who play excellent football, with lots at stake - doesn't get much better than that :)
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #105: Oct 06, 2018 09:16:29 pm
      This is the most important match this week and this year. If we win it would be massive statement.

      I'm confident it will be different performance and 3 point in the bag.
      Think so too!
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #106: Oct 06, 2018 09:27:49 pm
      Some of the press have been having a pop over the battered bus incident. Almost implying the Police turned a blind eye because no arrests have been made. To be fair it was a disgrace and lets hope nothing like that happens again.

      Will be a lively encounter, nothing nasty as both teams play good football. I'd go with Shaq in an attacking right wing back. Much has been said about him not defending. Some at Stoke said he can be a bit lazy but he now knows what's required, pressing, tracking back etc.

      Can't wait, love these games against the top sides. May be City have now displaced Mancheater United as the mob down the other end of the East Lancs.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #107: Oct 06, 2018 10:12:39 pm
      May be City have now displaced Mancheater United as the mob down the other end of the East Lancs.

      They will never replace the hatred for the Scum .

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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #108: Oct 06, 2018 10:25:27 pm
      Very difficult game tbh, a draw would be a decent result !
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #109: Oct 06, 2018 10:26:53 pm
      My youngest son was in hospital and just before the match we'd met with the Doctor and he answered a lot of questions we'd had and gave us overall good news, so he was finally out of pain and we had a big weight lifted off of us. I wouldn't have watched the match otherwise but as it was, the volume was muted and my son was sleeping comfortably for the first time in a few days.

      Now I'd been up without sleeping for a couple of days myself, and you still get nurses coming in every so often for paperwork, etc. so for the first half it's not like the most attentive I've ever been watching a match. You have to understand when I watch us play on TV it's normally full-throated, but with him finally resting I couldn't. So in the 2nd half, Bobby scores and I do a double fist pump, able to hold it in pretty well. When Sadio scores I'm out of my chair and flailing my arms about wildly and  just squeezing my mouth shut to keep any sound from getting out. I look over and a nurse has walked in and is giving me the strangest look. Then Mo scores and I stand up quickly, walk out of the room and down the hall into a family waiting area that thankfully was empty, and let out a "yeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh hhgeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeett ttttttttttttttttttttttti iiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnn nnnnnnnnnnyouuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuubeauuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuutyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyMMMMMMMMMMoooo oooooooooooooooooo."

      Later on the nurse asked me if I'd been getting enough rest and telling me I need to look after myself. I told her "Sweetheart, I am having a wonderful day and am feeling fine, thank you."  :)

      Something like that minus the illness would be just fine for tomorrow.


      It was a grand afternoon/evening wasn't it.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #110: Oct 06, 2018 11:13:19 pm
      I think we can win but I'd take a draw right now.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #111: Oct 07, 2018 12:12:21 am
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      We can't lose this game, if we win. It will be brilliant. But at least a draw because we will be all three teams with 20 points.

      I would be extremely surprised with Shaq as the attacking midfielder.

      He took him off against Saints as they were finding too much space through our midfield so can you imagine with City!

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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #112: Oct 07, 2018 01:02:03 am
      But if we really want to win the PL we need to win this. MC is so damn reliable, we need some points being ahead. But you name it: our team as a whole is not in prime shape. First it was justified with the WC and players needing some time, but more and more we see now that we rely more on luck and an improved defense while midfield and attack stagnate. I begin to wonder if that is the Buvac effect, too early though to get worried, it's quite normal to have certain phases thru a season (except f**king MC, they look like robots).

      Most scatter gun post of the season, so far. Congratulations.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #113: Oct 07, 2018 06:54:31 am
      The only thing on my mind is for the REDS to get back to winning ways.Beat City and the effect can be infectious. :kop5cf8koxp6:
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #114: Oct 07, 2018 07:38:23 am
      I would be extremely surprised with Shaq as the attacking midfielder.

      He took him off against Saints as they were finding too much space through our midfield so can you imagine with City!



      If he works hard, he can cause a lot of problems for them.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #115: Oct 07, 2018 07:56:35 am
      COYR :scarf:
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #116: Oct 07, 2018 08:31:24 am
      Right now I wouldn’t start Shaq in the middle in a game like this.

      Personally I’d go Gini, Henderson and Keita for this one and sit Milner down. Despite the miles he covers his recovery has looked slow in recent weeks and he’s given away silly fouls.

      After the break Fab starts coming into that equation plus Lallana and we can move to 3 from 6 which is a much healthier position.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #117: Oct 07, 2018 08:32:56 am
      If he starts the usual middle/front  [Gini, Milly, Hendo, Mane, Bob, Mo] reckon we 'might' struggle. You never can be sure though, Jürgen has a knack of getting lads up for the big games - but can only go on recent form.

      I'd bring in Studge and Shaq, and leave Hendo and Bob on the bench.  Maybe also bring in Clyne for Trent.

      The lads looked drained against Napoli, so hope Jürgen freshens things up. Not ideal that the next game is Shitty given our and their form, but don't see that putting the same set of lads out again is going to give a different result.
      Plus Studge and Shaq have done well, and possibly deserve to be starting on merit/form anyway.




      Problem with Studge, as well he has been playing, if you put him in you fundamentally lose the ability to press. Our wins against City have been built on forcing mistakes when they are in possession in their final third and then taking advantage. If Studge would genuinely press the ball he'd be in the side no brainier for me but I don't think he'll ever play that way because he's lost trust in his body. Bobby is the trigger for our entire pressing game so he has to play.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #118: Oct 07, 2018 09:01:35 am

      Problem with Studge, as well he has been playing, if you put him in you fundamentally lose the ability to press. Our wins against City have been built on forcing mistakes when they are in possession in their final third and then taking advantage. If Studge would genuinely press the ball he'd be in the side no brainier for me but I don't think he'll ever play that way because he's lost trust in his body. Bobby is the trigger for our entire pressing game so he has to play.

      Agree . Studge should have played Wednesday or at least more minutes when our style of play was much more suited to what he gives. However if things don't go as planned today he should be given more minutes to make an impact as should Lallana who can also something different . Our bench needs to have options who can change the game which is why Moreno should be no where near it . Lallana, Keita,Studge and Shaq all viable options
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #119: Oct 07, 2018 10:06:03 am
      Hopefully we will be back to our best today . The crowd will see us through.  3-1 to the red men ynwa
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #120: Oct 07, 2018 10:17:50 am
      The only question is the midfield and right now I think we're at our best with Gini at holding mid, which means Milly and Keita ahead of him.

      Salah to start because his pace is critical to our plans and the defence picks itself.

      Any result wouldn't shock me but i think we can still be confident heading in to this one. The crowd will play it's part and the boys should surely be up for this one.

      2-0 win to the lads.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #121: Oct 07, 2018 10:48:47 am
      I really didn't think about putting Shaqiri in as an attacking midfielder in this game but it does make sense. Last season we had the OX with his energy and willing runs forward so Shaqiri would go a long way in getting something similar today.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #122: Oct 07, 2018 10:59:29 am
      I really didn't think about putting Shaqiri in as an attacking midfielder in this game but it does make sense. Last season we had the OX with his energy and willing runs forward so Shaqiri would go a long way in getting something similar today.

      Ox after months of settling in compared to Shaqiri who has one (?) start and was pulled at half-time?

      I’d be shocked and worried if he started as a CAM.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #123: Oct 07, 2018 11:08:02 am
      I’m sorry but Shaqiri doesn’t have the discipline to play in midfield, and certainly not against City. If Keita isn’t fit then as much as it pains me to say it we’ve got to go with Gini, Milner and Henderson in there.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #124: Oct 07, 2018 11:30:18 am
      Think we’ve just gotta hope the occasion brings s bit more energy, form and finishing to our game.
      As we all know, when we’re on it, nobody can live with us. Just unfortunate we are not in the best of form at the mo.
      I’ve predicted 2-1 but st the same time extremely worried we’ll be over fun.
      Think it has to be Gini, Millie snd Keita in midfield. Shawn is not positionally disciplined enough for this one, Hend could be great or sh*te, there doesn’t seem to be any consistency in his game so a bit worried there.
      If Bob is having a mare, perhaps put Shaqu on, and Stu for Mo if he’s also off form still, but let’s nit wait till
      80 + mins. Give them 25-30 mins to get into the game.
      Worried, but trust the lads and Jürgen to bring home the bacon 😊

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