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      Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)

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      harrydunn08
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #25: Oct 04, 2018 06:07:18 pm

      At least you're persistent 😎
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #26: Oct 04, 2018 06:36:47 pm
      No he came off early and didn't play the 2nd leg.

      Oh dear, your claim has been completely dismantled, ;D
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #27: Oct 04, 2018 06:38:20 pm
      Shaqiri starting just means city have a nice big hole to go through at will.

      He has many strengths, but defensive responsibility isn't one of them.

      We'll probably play deeper than we are used to seeing, will try to use the counter more, the fullbacks less, and the midfield press more aggressively.

      Maybe so but we are screaming for energy in midfield so play him as the #8 or drop Firminio into that role and Sturridge as the striker.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #28: Oct 04, 2018 06:40:56 pm

       ;D

      Trust me..
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #29: Oct 04, 2018 06:40:58 pm
      Would anyone change tactically? Id imagine city have plans to deal with our 4 3 3 system. Any advantage to us changing it up?

      Or trust ourselved to go eith whats served us well over the last year?

      If we went 3 5 2 or 3 4 1 2 who play as the 3rd centre?  Could Trent?

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      Mane    Gini        Milner  Robbo
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                     Mo                Bobby

         
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #30: Oct 04, 2018 06:44:12 pm
      He did play the 2nd leg. Just admit you were wrong.

      Ox played all 90 mins of the 2nd leg
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #31: Oct 04, 2018 06:47:35 pm
      In previous games we've blown them apart with our intensity, but I just haven't seen that this season.

      I'd normally be happy for Mane, Firmino, and Salah, but they seem slow and predictable this season instead. I see our attack as being more likely to slowly open up space and opportunities rather than attack them at pace, and therefore I feel Sturridge a better option than Firmino.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #32: Oct 04, 2018 06:53:09 pm
      In previous games we've blown them apart with our intensity, but I just haven't seen that this season.

      I'd normally be happy for Mane, Firmino, and Salah, but they seem slow and predictable this season instead. I see our attack as being more likely to slowly open up space and opportunities rather than attack them at pace, and therefore I feel Sturridge a better option than Firmino.

      Im less concerned with Bobby to be honest. Defo wouldnt go to war without him. 2nd only to VVD for me in importance
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #33: Oct 04, 2018 07:48:27 pm
      Last year Salah had a great start to his time here and went on to have a great season. For the first half of the season we had Coutinho linking up with the front 3, he left and Ox stepped up and with Salah and others keeping up top form.

      This season the midfield, has started to splutter slightly. No reason to panic, just needs the spark to get things back up to speed. I see it as playing Shaqiri as the attacking midfielder. He can play that role. I would go with a front 6 of...Hendo,Keita,Shaqiri,Mane,Firmino,Salah. That tilts the balance back to attack. And provides that attacking link that needs to function in an attacking team.

      Klopp needs to get back to an attacking mode. One of his problems is he now has a midfield squad that is over maned. Fabinho is one to many and might not get enough games to justify his fee.

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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #34: Oct 04, 2018 07:51:24 pm
      Would anyone change tactically? Id imagine city have plans to deal with our 4 3 3 system. Any advantage to us changing it up?

      Or trust ourselved to go eith whats served us well over the last year?

      If we went 3 5 2 or 3 4 1 2 who play as the 3rd centre?  Could Trent?

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                    trent     VVD      Joe
      Mane    Gini        Milner  Robbo
                               Shaq
                     Mo                Bobby

         

      I wouldn't be playing a new system right now or be going 3 at the back against city.....suicide.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #35: Oct 04, 2018 08:01:37 pm
      City are going get a can of ass whopping..
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #36: Oct 04, 2018 08:56:32 pm
      This sounds terrible, but with our form right now I’ll be happy with one point. Ideally 3 is nice beings that we are at home, but we look like hammered dog sh*t right now. If we got a point into the break with a weak schedule coming up I would be okay with it

      Soz mate you cannot play for a draw, if a draw happens , then so be it, but we should be going for a win, and go for it bigtime.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #37: Oct 04, 2018 09:18:24 pm
      Think Fabino and Keita have took longer to get to grips with the league than thought. Would like Lallana on bench for this no need for Moreno just a complete waste of a space on bench. Could we get away with pivot Hendo and Gini with Shaq in front ?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #38: Oct 04, 2018 09:27:46 pm
      I wouldn't be playing a new system right now or be going 3 at the back against city.....suicide.

      Agree.  So many people are calling for change, but I bet we see the exact same side we fielded in Naples -- only exception is Hendo in for the injured Keita.  Klopp is a stubborn German and he "knows" what his best team is and how he wants the team to play.  I expect to see a pretty familiar team sheet and tactical gameplan against City.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #39: Oct 04, 2018 10:01:18 pm
      For God's sake when will people realise that a midfield of Milner, Henderson and Wijnaldum doesn't f**king work, how many matches do we need to have it demonstrated before poeple wake up to this. In fairness yesterday Klopp didn't have much choice, due to Keita's injury, but in hindsight I'd have brought on Shaquiri or even Sturridge as the AM as we have to shake things up and inject some creativity and link to the front three because the three we had yesterday just kill every game in terms of creativity.

      I’d play Shakiri in midfield on Sunday. As for Studge, he’s no ATtacking Mid so I’m not sure you can ever call such. You could ask him to play there but he’d play his usual game none the less.

      Biggest issue we have right now is our front three, people can point to the midfield (why do they get none of the plaudits when we’re free scoring but a bunch of criticism when we’re not?) but the teal issue is the form of our front three. Salah is still a long way off and looks very short of confidence and Firmino (despite a few goals) isn’t quite at last years levrl yet either.

      Play Shakiri ahead of Milner and Gini and get the f**k after him would be my approach. We are cruising for s bruising based on the last few games and City will be busting for some reveng after the champions League last season so our lads need to be at their very very best. I’ve got a bad feeling though, our form hasn’t been good recently. It would be a great time for Mo to rediscover his touch and his confidence, I think we’ll ned it
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #40: Oct 04, 2018 10:07:47 pm
      Try Shaqiri in the role that Chamberlain did so devastatingly against them in January and April. Have to start Milner as his hard work and intelligence will always trump whataever Gini or Hendo have on offer. Drop one of Gini or Hendo.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #41: Oct 04, 2018 10:12:06 pm
      Try Shaqiri in the role that Chamberlain did so devastatingly against them in January and April. Have to start Milner as his hard work and intelligence will always trump whataever Gini or Hendo have on offer. Drop one of Gini or Hendo.

      Yup that sounds about right.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #42: Oct 04, 2018 11:33:01 pm
      VERY Important game .... the most so far.

      The current champions so lets do them and if there is any game to get the front three firing it has to be this one .... doesn't it?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #44: Oct 04, 2018 11:53:50 pm
      so important we dont lose this, obvious reasons apart, we need  the rest of the league to realise they arent unbeatable.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #45: Oct 05, 2018 12:40:30 am
      Everyone has been talking about this team this season as title contenders. Sunday comes the biggest test of that idea thus far.

      Everyone relax and play the football you know you can play. Of course it will be a battle, but this team can do it. Believe.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #46: Oct 05, 2018 12:57:06 am
      In previous games we've blown them apart with our intensity, but I just haven't seen that this season.

      I'd normally be happy for Mane, Firmino, and Salah, but they seem slow and predictable this season instead. I see our attack as being more likely to slowly open up space and opportunities rather than attack them at pace, and therefore I feel Sturridge a better option than Firmino.

      I'm not so worried about this. We have been winning and we are far harder to break down. We have come off the back of a World Cup year, Champions League final, that's a lot of football. If we can build on our work so far then we will be in good shape come second half of the season. Then we can start playing with more intensity and rhythm. Players like Sturridge had a full pre-season and look how good he looks. Salah et al. didn't so they are bound to be a bit rusty.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #47: Oct 05, 2018 01:49:39 am
      I would want to drop Trent for this one but remember him having Sterling in his back pocket twice last year. Then again there's going to be Leroy Sane as well, up against Trent which could be an absolute nightmare.

      Think Clyne should play this game and just sit back and defend that left channel.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #48: Oct 05, 2018 03:01:01 am
      First time in ages we're going into a game where I'm not confident of getting anything. If I'm honest, I'm expecting us to get slapped.

      Usually our front three give us a chance against anyone but they're not firing or even looking like team mates at the moment. They look like three strangers who are badly out of form.

      The midfield have gone from being very impressive early on in the season to being a complete shambles. We simply cannot start that midfield three of gini, Henderson and Milner against city. If we do, we're just inviting them to push up and press us. The front three will be starved of service yet again. It'll be suicidal against these it really will be.

      The only realistic option we have right now is putting shaqiri in there as the point. Something that doesn't fill me with much confidence to be honest and I get the feeling klopp won't put his trust in him to play in there against these either. See why some of us were desperate for fekir now?

      Shaqiri would really have to work his bollocks off the way ox did. Press them, get stuck in, track back and get behind the ball when needed too. It will have to be a very disciplined performance and I'm not sure he has it in him. Maybe he will grasp the opportunity but it's a big gamble.

      I really can't see shaqiri getting the nod from klopp but the only other option really is to continue playing Hendo gini and Milner who are just f**king awful together. I'd rather gamble and go with shaqiri.

      If klopp doesn't go with shaqiri then I hope he gives Fabinho a start over Henderson. The midfield will still lack creativity but at least we will have a player on the pitch who can control a game properly and dictate the play. That could free up Milner and Wijnaldum who may find the form they had before Henderson started getting minutes.

      I honestly don't think I can take another game like this where Henderson goes missing and it affects our other midfielders. Then coming on here and reading about the two 'world class recoveries' he did which were just the most basic straight forward bits of play that any Sunday league footballer is capable of. It's just embarrassing now and I'm convinced they're on the wind up.

      He adds nothing to our game and he never has. I've said it for a long time that our attack constantly bail him out. When the front three are firing and we're winning games then everybody's happy and nobody talks about Henderson's and his poor performances. I notice it though. A few others do. But some fans are blinded and don't notice it at all. They only notice the goals go in and thats it.

      When the front three aren't firing though and we aren't winning games then you see just how basic he is and how little he offers this team. A lot more people are noticing it at present and he's rightfully coming in for a lot of criticism. Long over due.

      When you want your captain to get a grip of your team and pull you through games when your not playing your best, where is he? He is supposed to be our leader.

      His supporters will say 'it's not his job' or 'he's just this years scapegoat', but that's just a load of tosh to be quite honest. This is the perfect time for a 'number 6' to carry us through these types of games when we aren't playing well and maybe he would do if he was any good but as I say, he's just exposed when the front three aren't scoring and we aren't winning games. He offers absolutely nothing.

      I didn't want to go in on Henderson but the thought of him starting really annoys me. I've been saying it for a couple of weeks now but I really fear klopps loyalty in him will backfire on us and we will get punished for it.

      If Henderson plays on Sunday I have no hope in us winning. The midfield will just be unbalanced again, henderson will play poorly and gini and Milner won't be involved.

      This is exactly the f**king game he needs to roll his sleeves up and lead by example, get f**king stuck in and get us over that line one way or another. He needs to be the best player on the pitch to the point he's coming off to a standing ovation and we're singing his name.

      Three games without a win now and were playing like sh*te. A potential title decider at home so we need our captain more than ever. So if he does presumably start then let's see what he's f**king made of once and for all. I have no hope whatsoever and I'm guessing he will go missing yet again but I hope to god he turns up and shuts me up for a week at least.

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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Manchester City (07/10/18 - 16:30)
      Reply #49: Oct 05, 2018 06:31:01 am
      First time in ages we're going into a game where I'm not confident of getting anything. If I'm honest, I'm expecting us to get slapped.

      Usually our front three give us a chance against anyone but they're not firing or even looking like team mates at the moment. They look like three strangers who are badly out of form.

      The midfield have gone from being very impressive early on in the season to being a complete shambles. We simply cannot start that midfield three of gini, Henderson and Milner against city. If we do, we're just inviting them to push up and press us. The front three will be starved of service yet again. It'll be suicidal against these it really will be.

      The only realistic option we have right now is putting shaqiri in there as the point. Something that doesn't fill me with much confidence to be honest and I get the feeling klopp won't put his trust in him to play in there against these either. See why some of us were desperate for fekir now?

      Shaqiri would really have to work his bollocks off the way ox did. Press them, get stuck in, track back and get behind the ball when needed too. It will have to be a very disciplined performance and I'm not sure he has it in him. Maybe he will grasp the opportunity but it's a big gamble.

      I really can't see shaqiri getting the nod from klopp but the only other option really is to continue playing Hendo gini and Milner who are just f**king awful together. I'd rather gamble and go with shaqiri.

      If klopp doesn't go with shaqiri then I hope he gives Fabinho a start over Henderson. The midfield will still lack creativity but at least we will have a player on the pitch who can control a game properly and dictate the play. That could free up Milner and Wijnaldum who may find the form they had before Henderson started getting minutes.

      I honestly don't think I can take another game like this where Henderson goes missing and it affects our other midfielders. Then coming on here and reading about the two 'world class recoveries' he did which were just the most basic straight forward bits of play that any Sunday league footballer is capable of. It's just embarrassing now and I'm convinced they're on the wind up.

      He adds nothing to our game and he never has. I've said it for a long time that our attack constantly bail him out. When the front three are firing and we're winning games then everybody's happy and nobody talks about Henderson's and his poor performances. I notice it though. A few others do. But some fans are blinded and don't notice it at all. They only notice the goals go in and thats it.

      When the front three aren't firing though and we aren't winning games then you see just how basic he is and how little he offers this team. A lot more people are noticing it at present and he's rightfully coming in for a lot of criticism. Long over due.

      When you want your captain to get a grip of your team and pull you through games when your not playing your best, where is he? He is supposed to be our leader.

      His supporters will say 'it's not his job' or 'he's just this years scapegoat', but that's just a load of tosh to be quite honest. This is the perfect time for a 'number 6' to carry us through these types of games when we aren't playing well and maybe he would do if he was any good but as I say, he's just exposed when the front three aren't scoring and we aren't winning games. He offers absolutely nothing.

      I didn't want to go in on Henderson but the thought of him starting really annoys me. I've been saying it for a couple of weeks now but I really fear klopps loyalty in him will backfire on us and we will get punished for it.

      If Henderson plays on Sunday I have no hope in us winning. The midfield will just be unbalanced again, henderson will play poorly and gini and Milner won't be involved.

      This is exactly the f**king game he needs to roll his sleeves up and lead by example, get f**king stuck in and get us over that line one way or another. He needs to be the best player on the pitch to the point he's coming off to a standing ovation and we're singing his name.

      Three games without a win now and were playing like sh*te. A potential title decider at home so we need our captain more than ever. So if he does presumably start then let's see what he's f**king made of once and for all. I have no hope whatsoever and I'm guessing he will go missing yet again but I hope to god he turns up and shuts me up for a week at least.



      Totally obsessed with Hendo, there are 11 players on the pitch, it's boring and you think Fabinho or Shaq will do a better job, that's a joke. One is not a midfielder and the other is not up to speed, it's like all you are interested in is waiting to pounce on the skipper every week, sad really. 

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