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      Huddersfield Town 0-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      stuey
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      Re: Huddersfield Town 0-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #330: Oct 21, 2018 11:35:11 am
      Would love to see a Mo goal today

      Granted.
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      Reply #331: Oct 21, 2018 11:48:47 am
      Another good 3 points, and we are showing some good resilience to grind out results.  City are playing much better than us at the moment, but we are still keeping pace.  We all know that when it clicks we will kick on.

      Salah looked much better, and took his goal well.  Shaq was pretty effective as well, and fits in with our style.  Great to see Danny get the minutes as well
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      Reply #332: Oct 21, 2018 11:51:45 am
      First game back after sh*t internationals..That’s what I putting it as..

      Gotta have some reaction to the sh*t internationals, Mo took a knock while playing for Egypt and his body language didn't look too good yesterday - just one example.
      Mane might need surgery to the hand injury he copped for.
      Must do Klopp's head in, what can he do when the players feel honoured and obligated to play for their country.
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      Re: Huddersfield Town 0-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #333: Oct 21, 2018 01:40:18 pm
      Got in
      Got the goal
      Got clean sheet
      Got three points
      Got out.

      I've lost count of the amount of times, posters crying about not grinding out big 1-0 wins away from home when we need to. They're still crying about them now even when we get them.

      This was a banana skin game, with 3 players out injured, against a stubborn opponent who took City to the wire there last season and beat the mancs 12 months ago. It was never going to be a tiki taka extravaganza and it wasn't, but it doesn't matter now. We got what we wanted, and it's 4 wins out of 5 on the road.

      This could be a big 3 points. Beat Cardiff next week and we go 3 points clear, for 24 hours. Stop moaning ffs. There are plenty of clubs who would love to be where we are.
      Here is my concern...
      We are not creating the chances, let alone scoring from many of them. We have players for what ever reason not firing at present. And yes I to mentioned that this would not be an easy game, and Yes we fielded a weaken side, but what if we were facing more capable opposition yes today, sides that were not struggling for form at present... Yes at full strength we may well have put 3 or more past them, but we too are struggling to find form, and with injuries to plays we will be extremely luck to go a full season with out sum major injuries not occurring to key players, and what we have as back up is struggling now, and lack game time...

      The three points is welcomed, but we need to get creative following  supply to the front three and bring in some real quality in the next window, and in the meantime pray we do not lose a key player to long term injury
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      Reply #334: Oct 21, 2018 01:42:01 pm
      Difference between lallana and Shaqiri being Shaqiri makes the final all important pass while lallana is showboating all the way with not much end result to show all these years.


      ^^^
      This allday
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      Re: Huddersfield Town 0-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #335: Oct 21, 2018 02:29:16 pm
      Get a different feeling when we're one up nowadays, not the usual one of panic.
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      Reply #336: Oct 21, 2018 02:35:53 pm
      Get a different feeling when we're one up nowadays, not the usual one of panic.

      Glad you weren't shitting yourself at 1 nil last night because when both vvd and lovren missed that cross towards the end i certainly did
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      Reply #337: Oct 21, 2018 05:29:29 pm
      just watching Everton, now you would have something to moan about if you had to watch this sh*te all the time.

      I would imagine there will be quite a long post match debate at Melwood some of the passing was as bad as I can ever remember thankfully we have such a solid defence now we can win games 1-0
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      Reply #338: Oct 21, 2018 11:00:09 pm
      Made up with the three points, but like most, worried about our level of performance.
      When we attacked, they had plenty of cover most of the time. When they attacked, we were often chasing them down, rather than facing them up !
      Think we’ve lost a bit of fluency in the middle of the park and our attacks are being smothered rather than flowing into the spaces.
      A bit too slow getting the ball forward, coupled with an off form strike force. Not controlling the ball as deftly as we have, and also misplacing hurried passes.
      The press has been compromised somewhat, and certainly isn’t what it was last season, probably down to a tactical tweek.
      All said and done, we’re joint top, and will get better. Just hope we can stay undefeated until we get out of this rut.
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      Reply #339: Oct 22, 2018 01:18:29 pm
      very happy with the result.  This was one of those games we would have dropped points a couple of years ago. Our performances will improve, but for now lets just keep grinding out results.

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      Re: Huddersfield Town 0-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #340: Oct 22, 2018 01:37:10 pm
      Huddersfield played very well.
      They pressed us hard, and cut down our passing lanes, limiting our options.
      I suspect Klopp knew this was going to happen which is why he played Shaqiri deeper as a runner to break the Huddersfield midfield line and get between them and defense.
      It worked to an extent, because we created a few good chances, and with better finishing could have put 3 or 4 past them.

      3 points is all that matters.
      We go again.
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      Reply #341: Oct 22, 2018 03:19:11 pm
      Good result but yet another poor performance.

      Plusses being Gomez getting better & better, Shaqiri's first touch in tight spaces under pressure, Lallana getting some game time, showing some nice first touches & Salah finding the back of the
      net after his mini-drought.

      Keita & Fabhino need to get up to speed quickly as we're approaching November and they need to start re-paying the investment in them.

      Sturridge is far better an impact substitute for 20-30 mins than he is a starter.

      We need to sort right back out as we're disrupting a solid partnership to compensate.

      Hopefully the attacking performances start re-appearing quickly, or as has been alluded to earlier, the results will start to reflect the performances.

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      Reply #342: Oct 22, 2018 04:38:07 pm
      Huddersfield played very well.
      They pressed us hard, and cut down our passing lanes, limiting our options.
      I suspect Klopp knew this was going to happen which is why he played Shaqiri deeper as a runner to break the Huddersfield midfield line and get between them and defense.
      It worked to an extent, because we created a few good chances, and with better finishing could have put 3 or 4 past them.

      3 points is all that matters.
      We go again.

      I think we've spoken about this a bit now but Shaqiri was doing what the team hasn't done in a while,
      link between midfield and attack, shown in his assist. Up until now it's been Firmino dropping deep,
      which a lot of teams have worked on blocking off. Nice to see this option used.
      Would be even better if it can be used more often against teams that try to frustrate the front 3
      and close off those passing lanes.
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      Reply #343: Oct 22, 2018 06:13:42 pm
      I think we've spoken about this a bit now but Shaqiri was doing what the team hasn't done in a while,
      link between midfield and attack, shown in his assist. Up until now it's been Firmino dropping deep,
      which a lot of teams have worked on blocking off. Nice to see this option used.
      Would be even better if it can be used more often against teams that try to frustrate the front 3
      and close off those passing lanes.

      It's the running option that is most important for me, and Shaqiri is a bit like Ox in that regard.
      Milner can do the defensive work high up and pick a pass, but he's not a particularly strong runner that breaks the lines.
      Shaqiri on the other hand is a powerful runner, but pretty bad defensively.
      Ox is a combination of good defense and strong running.
      Keita will be another option when he gets up to speed.

      It's the running from a deeper position that unsettles opposition defenses, and leaves gaps for the front 3 to exploit.
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      Reply #344: Oct 22, 2018 11:55:21 pm
      Apologies for missing Fabinho out on the MOTM by the way.  Must have missed that sub during the game.  Normal service will be resumed for Wednesday. 

      P.S. Was he any good?
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      Reply #345: Oct 23, 2018 12:51:04 am
      It's the running option that is most important for me, and Shaqiri is a bit like Ox in that regard.
      Milner can do the defensive work high up and pick a pass, but he's not a particularly strong runner that breaks the lines.
      Shaqiri on the other hand is a powerful runner, but pretty bad defensively.
      Ox is a combination of good defense and strong running.
      Keita will be another option when he gets up to speed.

      It's the running from a deeper position that unsettles opposition defenses, and leaves gaps for the front 3 to exploit.

      Not even just about running, but that creative threat or potential to score from distance.
      Forces the other team to move up the pitch as a result and creates more space.
      Not something that happens when Milner-Hendo-Gini is the 3.
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      Reply #346: Oct 23, 2018 12:04:16 pm
      Not even just about running, but that creative threat or potential to score from distance.
      Forces the other team to move up the pitch as a result and creates more space.
      Not something that happens when Milner-Hendo-Gini is the 3.

      Milner sits behind Robertson, Gini sits behind TAA and Henderson sits between or to the left of the 2 CB's.

      When we play with a runner, either Gomez or TAA stay deep.

      Klopp is all about getting bodies in the box, he's said it a number of times, and that's why the FB's are so attacking.

      Milner, Gini and Henderson aren't there to be creative primarily, they are there to cover for the FB's
      When we play with a runner to break the lines, the system changes slightly.
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      Reply #347: Oct 23, 2018 10:59:13 pm
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      We are not creating the chances, let alone scoring from many of them. We have players for what ever reason not firing at present. And yes I to mentioned that this would not be an easy game, and Yes we fielded a weaken side, but what if we were facing more capable opposition yes today, sides that were not struggling for form at present... Yes at full strength we may well have put 3 or more past them, but we too are struggling to find form, and with injuries to plays we will be extremely luck to go a full season with out sum major injuries not occurring to key players, and what we have as back up is struggling now, and lack game time...

      The three points is welcomed, but we need to get creative following  supply to the front three and bring in some real quality in the next window, and in the meantime pray we do not lose a key player to long term injury

      We've just blown 200 million quid on quality players, 50 million of it sitting on the bench scratching himself every week, because apparantly he "hasn't adapted" to our style yet, or aka "he isn't good enough". How much more real quality should we bring in?

      We're now winning the 1-0's people said we couldn't last year. And they were right, but they still complain about it now. When we blow teams away in 20 minutes, they say we can't do it every week. Now when we win 1-0, they say we can't do it every week. Wtf are we supposed to do? Jürgen said before Game 1 that winning the league was about winning 5 games 1-0 than 1 game 5-0. And he's right.

      We had to win at Huddersfield. The performance was poor, but I expected it to be difficult. First game after the break, couple of days prep, several injuries, no win in 4 games, away from home, opposition's cup final, busparking tactics,  etc. All the ingredients were in place for a king size fuc up, and this was apparently one of our "easier" games. We got the job done. We all want a bit more sure, but that's all we have to do right now, get the job done. Keep in touch with the leaders until the next break, then kick on after it, up to City away where the games come one after the other, and there are 25-30 points up for grabs.

      We're a team designed to get circa 90 points now. We're almost a third of the way there, and we're way ahead of where we were 12 months ago. It's depressing seeing City hockey teams every week, but they'll have to win games 1-0 down the line.

      The reverse fixture is in 6 months time. If we do our stuff before then, it could be a gift home banker for us at a time we really need it, or if we're really lucky, a fixture that allows us to finally reach the top of the mountain.
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      Reply #348: Oct 23, 2018 11:11:13 pm
      Milner sits behind Robertson, Gini sits behind TAA and Henderson sits between or to the left of the 2 CB's.

      When we play with a runner, either Gomez or TAA stay deep.

      Klopp is all about getting bodies in the box, he's said it a number of times, and that's why the FB's are so attacking.

      Milner, Gini and Henderson aren't there to be creative primarily, they are there to cover for the FB's
      When we play with a runner to break the lines, the system changes slightly.

      Which is why Gomez plays instead of TAA when the changes happen.
      Having someone like Ox back in the team though would be best of both worlds as Shaqiri hasn't the defensive attributes Ox had.
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      Reply #349: Oct 24, 2018 11:05:42 am
      We've just blown 200 million quid on quality players, 50 million of it sitting on the bench scratching himself every week, because apparantly he "hasn't adapted" to our style yet, or aka "he isn't good enough". How much more real quality should we bring in?

      That's the point... We are going for players that look good in lesser team, instead of player that are proven in better team...
      Utd,City,Chelsea mostly buy proven Quality from top teams, we still under the FSG edict for the most part of "Young players with potential and resalable value". Don't get me wrong there are some "Gems" out there waiting to be found, but having said that there are also players that are at clubs better than what we have but can't get regular game at them clubs... - Cesc Fabregas springs to mind (not a player that I particularly like). Yes he is getting on in age, but would vastly improve our midfield creativity wise. These are the types of quality players we should be looking at

      We're now winning the 1-0's people said we couldn't last year. And they were right, but they still complain about it now. When we blow teams away in 20 minutes, they say we can't do it every week. Now when we win 1-0, they say we can't do it every week. Wtf are we supposed to do? Jürgen said before Game 1 that winning the league was about winning 5 games 1-0 than 1 game 5-0. And he's right.

      Yes I agree with that, but it is not like we are winning some of these game in second gear. We are truly struggling to win some of the games even at full strength, and it does not help that two of the front three are not firing, with noting come from midfield to aid them it's a worry especially when other teams are creating more chances than us those 1-0 wins could so easily become 1-0 loses 

      We had to win at Huddersfield. The performance was poor, but I expected it to be difficult. First game after the break, couple of days prep, several injuries, no win in 4 games, away from home, opposition's cup final, busparking tactics,  etc. All the ingredients were in place for a king size fuc up, and this was apparently one of our "easier" games. We got the job done. We all want a bit more sure, but that's all we have to do right now, get the job done. Keep in touch with the leaders until the next break, then kick on after it, up to City away where the games come one after the other, and there are 25-30 points up for grabs.

      Did not think that it would be an easy game myself, but expected to dominate the game, and we didn't...
      They didn't park the bus either. They took it to us and we struggled. Yes we did not field our best 11, but what we had should have still been more than good enough to dominate Huddersfield.... 

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      Reply #350: Oct 24, 2018 03:32:38 pm
      That's the point... We are going for players that look good in lesser team, instead of player that are proven in better team...
      Utd,City,Chelsea mostly buy proven Quality from top teams, we still under the FSG edict for the most part of "Young players with potential and resalable value". Don't get me wrong there are some "Gems" out there waiting to be found, but having said that there are also players that are at clubs better than what we have but can't get regular game at them clubs... - Cesc Fabregas springs to mind (not a player that I particularly like). Yes he is getting on in age, but would vastly improve our midfield creativity wise. These are the types of quality players we should be looking at

      Yes I agree with that, but it is not like we are winning some of these game in second gear. We are truly struggling to win some of the games even at full strength, and it does not help that two of the front three are not firing, with noting come from midfield to aid them it's a worry especially when other teams are creating more chances than us those 1-0 wins could so easily become 1-0 loses 

      Did not think that it would be an easy game myself, but expected to dominate the game, and we didn't...
      They didn't park the bus either. They took it to us and we struggled. Yes we did not field our best 11, but what we had should have still been more than good enough to dominate Huddersfield.... 



      How is Utd's proven player purchase policy working out then? ;-)
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      Reply #351: Oct 24, 2018 03:40:49 pm
      How is Utd's proven player purchase policy working out then? ;-)

      Very well, along with City and Chelsea. The Fact that  the team is not playing well could be down to the manager, tatic or the wrong combination of players
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      Reply #352: Oct 24, 2018 03:46:02 pm
      Very well, along with City and Chelsea. The Fact that  the team is not playing well could be down to the manager, tatic or the wdrong combination of players

      🤔 Proven but the wrong combination of players...
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      Reply #353: Oct 24, 2018 04:04:21 pm
      🤔 Proven but the wrong combination of players...

      Yes, wrong combination, Milner is great when not playing alongside Henderson, Lallana for all the skill he has does not play well with Sturrigde and Shaqiri... Good team are a combination of different types of player, Great teams are a different combination types of Quality players

      Lukaku, Mata, Pogba, Matic, Sanchez porven all quality
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      Reply #354: Nov 22, 2018 10:56:01 pm
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