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      Q. LFC Man of the Match v Cardiff?

       Alisson
      0 (0%)
      Trent Alexander-Arnold
      0 (0%)
      Dejan Lovren
      0 (0%)
      Virgil van Dijk
      1 (0.9%)
      Alberto Moreno
      0 (0%)
      Adam Lallana
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      7 (6.2%)
      Georginio Wijnaldum
      6 (5.3%)
      Sadio Mane
      24 (21.2%)
      Mohammed Salah
      65 (57.5%)
      Roberto Firmino
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      Xherdan Shaqiri
      10 (8.8%)
      James Milner
      0 (0%)

      Total Members Voted: 113

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      Liverpool 4-1 Cardiff City: In game and Post Match discussion

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      waltonl4
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #30: Oct 27, 2018 02:23:17 pm
      Surprising line up but we need players fit and in form and getting Adam and Moreno game time and finding some form is necessary.
      We need players fresh when the April and May games are all must win. I am sure Shaq is a bit miffed but he must please that he is slowly becoming an important part of this team.
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #31: Oct 27, 2018 02:23:27 pm
      As surprised as anyone,  but you can't say those X1 starters are not good enough to beat Cardiff,
      Wee Bertie in particular has to prove to Jürgen that he can be relied upon to do a job when he plays, Lallana needs to concentrate on what he does best and leave the Hollywood stuff with his clothes,
      Pleased that Fabinho keeps his place as i believe he will prove undroppable(is that a actual word ?) as the season gets older,

      Can only see a Reds win anything else would be considered a kick in the bawbag  and simply not good enough.

      4-0 Champions Elect


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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #32: Oct 27, 2018 02:23:42 pm
      Surprised at these changes especially to back four tbh with a weeks rest
      It may be about trying to maintain a level of match fitness and sharpness about the team in general more than any thing else or then again Klopp maybe wanting to field the same team vs Red star next week
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #33: Oct 27, 2018 02:24:15 pm
      I h ave a feeling Lallana was chosen over Shaqiri because of Moreno? Anyway, I would have like to have seen Clyne instead of Moreno, but whatever. On paper, we are far stronger and should be winning this easy.

      Robertson needs the rest over Trent though.
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #34: Oct 27, 2018 02:25:02 pm
      Moreno...Ok Boss, ill go with whatever you thinking 🤔

      Interview on the official site had Klopp praising Moreno and saying he's been outstanding at Melwood this season, and it's only that Robertson has been so brilliant which has kept him out.

      I don't doubt his ability as a footballer, just his ability as a defender, and being prone to brain farts.
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #35: Oct 27, 2018 02:25:20 pm
      Never happy to see Moreno in the team and it’s s risk for my mind whenever he plays. If you are going to play I’d be far more comfortable having the pace of Gomez in the side behind him. Not at all surprised to see Lallana in the side for Shaqiri, Klopp loves him and he looks very sharp to me. I just worry seeing Moreno, our back four has been so strong, why risk it?
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #36: Oct 27, 2018 02:25:53 pm
      Robertson needs the rest over Trent though.

      I think it’s actually a measure of how vital Robbo is to us that he’s getting a rest after a nasty wee knock on Wednesday.

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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #37: Oct 27, 2018 02:27:55 pm
      Meh.

      Should still be winning this one comfortably. We're at home to Cardiff with our strongest attackers on the field, the best CB in the league and the best GK in the league.
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #38: Oct 27, 2018 02:29:04 pm
      For years people complained due to a lack of strength in depth and flogging the players to death - now we rotate to keep players fresh and give players a rest during a very intense period of the season with two games a week and still people complain

      Moreno has proven time and time again that he can’t be trusted as reliable back up. The guy is a clown and the outfield version of Migs.
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #39: Oct 27, 2018 02:29:24 pm
      Some bold moves from Klopp but I think we will have enough nonetheless. I predicted 3-0 after changing from 3-1.
      Think that Lovren, and Moreno to an extent just seamless, to me if an think it's Lallana who may prove the weak link creativity wise... Tricky game, we have to be up for it, but even with Lallana playing and less creativity from him I still believe that we have to much for Cardiff and 3-0 to us does not seem that unrealistic to me
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #40: Oct 27, 2018 02:31:07 pm
      If we don’t win today we don’t deserve to be in the title race - simple.

      Let’s do this
      Understand what you are saying, but Cardiff won the other night and the manager should have thier tails up
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #41: Oct 27, 2018 02:33:03 pm
      Moreno has proven time and time again that he can’t be trusted as reliable back up. The guy is a clown and the outfield version of Migs.

      Yet there was me thinking he did ok last season at the start before getting injured and he is the back up and if Robbo did get injured he would have to play so it’s better for the team for him to get mins when he can.
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #42: Oct 27, 2018 02:36:37 pm
      Understand what you are saying, but Cardiff won the other night and the manager should have thier tails up

      Against the worst defence I've seen so far in the league, imo.

      We could win this by a couple playing at 75%. Hope we don't play to that but I don't think the handicap of Moreno makes up for the gulf in class between the two sides.
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #43: Oct 27, 2018 02:38:30 pm
      Azpillicueta has managed it for over 2 seasons now so I don’t buy that for a second.

      In fairness, Robbo played well on Wednesday, but I thought looked shattered when he came off. Our sports science people are supposed to be top.
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #44: Oct 27, 2018 02:38:39 pm
      Understand what you are saying, but Cardiff won the other night and the manager should have thier tails up

      Moreno could  be a bait for Cardiff to attack and have the game more open? ;)
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #45: Oct 27, 2018 02:41:29 pm
      Moreno has proven time and time again that he can’t be trusted as reliable back up. The guy is a clown and the outfield version of Migs.

      Positive, man. Let's be positive for the next two hours.  :)
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #46: Oct 27, 2018 02:42:12 pm
      Lets hope Moreno has a better game today
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #47: Oct 27, 2018 02:42:27 pm
      Moreno could  be a bait for Cardiff to attack and have the game more open? ;)

      And to support the moon landing myth.  ;D
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #48: Oct 27, 2018 02:46:09 pm
      Moreno...Ok Boss, ill go with whatever you thinking 🤔
      Moreno is a very skill full played with great pass and great physical attributes. He just needs to make better decisions. I am hoping that just like VVD bought out better decisions making in Lovren he can also start that learning process in the case of Moreno, and We won't get many games where if he slow on the up take and makes mistake there will be less of a chance of the opposition capitalizing on those mistakes...

      Remember it is a long season ahead and there will not doubt be injuries and we could for long periods of that season be calling on players like Moreno to fill in
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #49: Oct 27, 2018 02:48:27 pm
      Azpillicueta has managed it for over 2 seasons now so I don’t buy that for a second.

      The big difference is Azpilicueta was a CB for one of those seasons though, he wasn't being used as an attacking full back.
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #50: Oct 27, 2018 02:50:44 pm
      Not overly thrilled with Moreno but the lad needs to get a few minutes here and there. Happy enough with Lallana, he's shown good touches so far.
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #51: Oct 27, 2018 02:51:19 pm
      If Moreno makes a meal out of playing Neil Warnock's Cardiff then there really is no hope for him.
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #52: Oct 27, 2018 02:55:02 pm
      Any good streams?
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #53: Oct 27, 2018 02:56:47 pm
      Won't lie Moreno puts the f**king shits up me every time he has the ball & even more so without it none the less we surely have to much for this lot &  there f**king whinging arse manager
      3-0 and mo to bag a brace again.
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #54: Oct 27, 2018 02:57:14 pm

      LFCGlobe.co.uk has a selection.
      The top one is usually the best for me when the match isn't on acestream
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #55: Oct 27, 2018 02:57:38 pm
       :f_doh:Hes our second choice left back so we will need to use him. The debate is not whether he should be used today but whether he should be on our books at all.

      If we're hoping to win a league then we need a squad and the left back position sticks out as being an area where we could weak.

      Personally i'd be happier with a more solid and less risky choice as back up to Robbo. Not asking for amazing quality or huge money spent but a solid figure to play there when needed.

      Ny memories of Moreno will always be over comitting, standing square on, lunging in to tackles with his wrong foot.
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      Reply #56: Oct 27, 2018 02:59:18 pm
      Frankly, Mr Shankly
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #57: Oct 27, 2018 02:59:45 pm
      Hes our second choice left back so we will need to use him. The debate is not whether he should be used today but whether he should be on our books at all.

      If we're hoping to win a league then we need a squad and the left back position sticks out as being an area where we could weak.

      Personally i'd be happier with a more solid and less risky choice as back up to Robbo. Not asking for amazing quality or huge money spent but a solid figure to play there when needed.

      James Milner it is then.

      I'm serious - I'd much rather have him at left back even if it means him playing less in the middle.
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #58: Oct 27, 2018 03:02:53 pm
      James Milner it is then.

      I'm serious - I'd much rather have him at left back even if it means him playing less in the middle.

      Yeah I agree but Klopp seems to have him down firmly as midfielder only these days.
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Cardiff
      Reply #59: Oct 27, 2018 03:04:14 pm
      It can’t just be me that thinks Mo’s passing is horrendous...?

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