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      Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:

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      Harrisimo
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #360: Nov 11, 2018 11:53:44 pm
      Alan Shearer says our first goal should of been disallowed as Allison played the ball it was moving.....well strictly by the laws..yes it could've been called back...slight error by the officials....not as slight as the feckin' error for the "beach ball" goal...eh Al.

      And Mitrovic was offside..just....why did Rafa let him go?
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #361: Nov 12, 2018 02:25:26 am
      Alan Shearer says our first goal should of been disallowed as Allison played the ball it was moving.....well strictly by the laws..yes it could've been called back...slight error by the officials....not as slight as the feckin' error for the "beach ball" goal...eh Al.

      And Mitrovic was offside..just....why did Rafa let him go?

      Was crap at Newcastle. Looks to have rebuilt himself in the Championship with some confidence.

      Geordie fans knew he could be something decent but very rarely showed it.
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #362: Nov 12, 2018 04:18:57 am
      3points.
      That’s all that matters.
      It felt as if we could have lost at times in the first half, some odd lapses, and then we get a break and score. Cheers, ref and lino! Theirs certainly looked offside to me!
      Signs of more composure 2nd half but it would be nice to put more of those chances away. Some will bemoan the finishing, the free kicks, or the decision making up front. Yep it will need to improve but today once we got ahead it felt easy. Didn’t it..?
      City won again. It’s not the title but I saw their derby as a likely 2points dropped at least. There’ll be few other opportunities for them to lose points I fear. I was praying for a draw.
      Nervous.
      If it’s this tight in April, can you imagine?
      Breathe.
      All is well, for the moment.
      Rest and be thankful!

      Clear offside. No question about it.
      I don't know how to put up an image here otherwise it clearly shows that it is offside.

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DruTWA6WwAU5Nog.jpg
      « Last Edit: Nov 12, 2018 04:27:04 am by RobieSlick »
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #363: Nov 12, 2018 04:35:41 am
      Good win and leaves us in a good position, keeping touch with City.

      I couldn’t care less about performance at the moment, with the standard City are setting it is all about getting points and keeping pace. And we have done that despite never looking at our best.

      Exciting times ahead!
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #364: Nov 12, 2018 04:36:53 am
      I could not watch the second half live, will have to catch it later.

      Better performance compared to previous games in the first half and I would say that the Salah goal is for me one of the best goals scored this season because of the awareness shown. Newcastle were celebrating, then had to react to being offside and in that short period of time, Allison recognized there was an opportunity.

      That was crazy.
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #365: Nov 12, 2018 04:45:58 am
      I could not watch the second half live, will have to catch it later.

      Better performance compared to previous games in the first half and I would say that the Salah goal is for me one of the best goals scored this season because of the awareness shown. Newcastle were celebrating, then had to react to being offside and in that short period of time, Allison recognized there was an opportunity.

      That was crazy.

      We don’t score that goal with either of our goalkeeper options last season. Exactly what we paid for (could’ve done better with the “goal” though ;) )
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #366: Nov 12, 2018 05:32:28 am
      Get the f**k in...another 3 points and a clean sheet.

      Who would have thunk after 12 League games this season, we would be undefeated? F***ing Brilliant lads and it's only matter of time to will we kick into top gear.
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #367: Nov 12, 2018 05:41:02 am
      I could not watch the second half live, will have to catch it later.

      Better performance compared to previous games in the first half and I would say that the Salah goal is for me one of the best goals scored this season because of the awareness shown. Newcastle were celebrating, then had to react to being offside and in that short period of time, Allison recognized there was an opportunity.

      That was crazy.

      I think you means Fulham ;D
      Agree Allison is brilliant in that situation.
      Like many said I'm happy of three points with confident it's a matter of time we will play at our potential again.   
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #368: Nov 12, 2018 06:03:22 am
      I could not watch the second half live, will have to catch it later.

      Better performance compared to previous games in the first half and I would say that the Salah goal is for me one of the best goals scored this season because of the awareness shown. Newcastle were celebrating, then had to react to being offside and in that short period of time, Allison recognized there was an opportunity.

      That was crazy.

      Actually, Allison did not recognise it. He was still berating the players for letting them score when VvD pointed out that there was an opportunity to counter attack.
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #369: Nov 12, 2018 09:02:16 am
      Klopp is too nice at times, that's one of the reasons people like him and are quick to defend him. He's a good manager, but he does need to be more assertive at times. I'd certainly hope Klopp claims every 50/50 going forward. I just hope if we get the same referee again he doesn't remember Klopps comment... because we may not get the next 50/50 if Klopp is going to say correct decisions that benefited us were incorrect. I've not seen any manager do that before, I've seen managers talk utter trash when moaning what went against them but that can be expected and understood. I can't stand Ferguson but I think he won titles on the mentality of claiming everything he could and complaining about everything that went against United, pre match and post match. I'm in no way saying be like that, but there's a thing as acting like a walkover.

      Is it ADHD ? Or not enough breast feeding ?
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #370: Nov 12, 2018 10:01:52 am
      If the ball was moving it was only just moving and if they stop every freekick because the ball was moving even slightly the game will grind to a halt.
      Also we could not have scored that goal because VAR would have been reviewed and VAR takes so much time review.
      Good solid win keeps us up there and there is so much potential in this team its frightening
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #371: Nov 12, 2018 10:54:35 am
      Is it ADHD ? Or not enough breast feeding ?

      Klopp????
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #372: Nov 12, 2018 11:49:13 am
      Not sure if it’s already been mentioned but our set pieces were absolutely shocking yesterday.

      Free kicks in great positions hitting the wall and corners either flying out the other side or failing to get off the ground.
      No single culprit just everyone who took an attempt!

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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #373: Nov 12, 2018 12:01:16 pm
      Just seen MOTD and a suspicion of Shearer's optical senses not being what they should crept in.
      He claimed the offside goal disallowed for Fulham was "questionable", also the kick out by Alisson subsequent to the Salah goal should not have stood because the ball was still rolling when the goalie kicked it??
      Slowed down the footage shows the ball coming to rest before contact by Alisson.

      Don't usually have the volume on MOTD and the Sheared bollox ensures that will definitely be the setting in future.
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #374: Nov 12, 2018 12:07:18 pm
      I'm talking about Klopp below.

      “In the end we were a bit lucky and maybe because of Robbo it is not 100 per cent offside because of his heel. We cannot change it, Fulham cannot change it.

      I can say now, it was 100% offside and there's nothing to change. Perhaps you were unaware Klopp basically said the Fulham goal should have stood. I don't expect that sh*t from our own manager. I can categorically say Robertson didn't play anybody onside.

      Just to end any discussion by any member that Fulham's "goal" was...

      OFFSIDE
      « Last Edit: Nov 12, 2018 12:12:50 pm by RedPuppy »
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #375: Nov 12, 2018 12:31:33 pm
      ^ Re the offside situation I think whatever Klopp say about it he just say for the saying as even him also very far away to see or not at right angle to judge it.  Only one who see the situation best is a lineman and he judge it right.

      Thing I concern a bit from the game is Bobby Firmino. He seemed not right playing CAM. Hopefully Klopp can bring the best out of him if he want to continue playing Mo CF.
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #376: Nov 12, 2018 12:56:55 pm
      ^ Re the offside situation I think whatever Klopp say about it he just say for the saying as even him also very far away to see or not at right angle to judge it.  Only one who see the situation best is a lineman and he judge it right.
      He publicly and incorrectly accused Robertson of playing him onside. I'm sure Klopp regrets saying that and I hope he's learnt from it. I didn't realize Klopp said that till a few newspapers picked up on it. Guardian and talksport being the ones I remember. These are just comments Klopp didn't need to make. I didn't see the match live, but from the highlights it looks like Fulham had got chances. International break has come at a good time for us because we need to control games a bit more. We doing well points wise which is the best thing we can take going into the international break.
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #377: Nov 12, 2018 01:14:10 pm
      These complaints about Klopp saying Robbo played Mitrovic on are a nonsense. And Refs won't take any notice of his remarks. Klopp would laugh at such suggestions. Or more likely he's be irritated at the ridiculousness of such comments.

      Similar with moans that we should've scored more. Fulham sat deep most of the game. We won the game after a difficult CL game. Shaq came in and did well. Klopp will be delighted that Shaq has come in and is doing really well early on in his career at Anfield. Might've thought shaq would come in for the cup games etc but now he is a genuine contender for a more offensive midfield. I said 6 weeks ago Shaq could be the catalyst for a fresh attacking spree. Many said the same.

      Robinho as well, bedding in. Getting the pace and mentality of the Prem. Plenty of positives, most of the complaints - irrelevant.
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #378: Nov 12, 2018 01:21:19 pm
      These complaints about Klopp saying Robbo played Mitrovic on are a nonsense. And Refs won't take any notice of his remarks. Klopp would laugh at such suggestions. Or more likely he's be irritated at the ridiculousness of such comments.

      Similar with moans that we should've scored more. Fulham sat deep most of the game. We won the game after a difficult CL game. Shaq came in and did well. Klopp will be delighted that Shaq has come in and is doing really well early on in his career at Anfield. Might've thought shaq would come in for the cup games etc but now he is a genuine contender for a more offensive midfield. I said 6 weeks ago Shaq could be the catalyst for a fresh attacking spree. Many said the same.

      Robinho as well, bedding in. Getting the pace and mentality of the Prem. Plenty of positives, most of the complaints - irrelevant.

      Exactly.
      It's just people searching desperately for an excuse to whinge.
      Gets on my f**king tits it does.
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #379: Nov 12, 2018 02:00:10 pm
      what a fantastically well drilled back line its a thing of beauty
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #380: Nov 12, 2018 02:40:49 pm
      Exactly.
      It's just people searching desperately for an excuse to whinge.
      Gets on my f**king tits it does.

      Hey if you are happy being 13 goals behind Citeh and 1 behind Chavs then good for you, but personally I'm not. This is the game we should have gone for the jugular but again we huffed and puffed a bit, although we were a lot better than in recent games but that was largely down to playing an AM.
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #381: Nov 12, 2018 05:02:28 pm
      These complaints about Klopp saying Robbo played Mitrovic on are a nonsense.
      I've seen it for myself in the post match news conference, as well as 3 newspapers. Some people just believe what they want to through rose tinted goggles. He said it, it is a fact.
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #382: Nov 12, 2018 05:11:21 pm
      ^ Re the offside situation I think whatever Klopp say about it he just say for the saying as even him also very far away to see or not at right angle to judge it.  Only one who see the situation best is a lineman and he judge it right.

      Thing I concern a bit from the game is Bobby Firmino. He seemed not right playing CAM. Hopefully Klopp can bring the best out of him if he want to continue playing Mo CF.

      I actually think Bobby was an unsung hero in that game. It showed what we missed against Red Star. His movement is superb and he creates so much space for other players by drawing defenders to him.
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #383: Nov 12, 2018 05:20:41 pm
      As my old school reports used to say "has the ability, can do better". Pretty lacklustre performance again, if the linesman gets their offside wrong (which would have been easy to) we are 1 down and struggling. Something is amiss but I am no expert so can't put my finger on it. It's obvious we are not as aggressive as usual (sad to say when I watch City play they are a notch above us and 2 notches above everyone else no doubt about it). We seem to have gone from hard rock to grunge (all seems a bit disjointed). We need someone to pick that final pass out but nobody stepping up yet (could Keita now stand up and be counted?). Gotta get back in the groove and quick, get the swagger and the confidence back, I'm not even fist pumping goals at the moment FFS!  :boxing: :boxing:
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #384: Nov 12, 2018 05:27:43 pm
      I've seen it for myself in the post match news conference, as well as 3 newspapers. Some people just believe what they want to through rose tinted goggles. He said it, it is a fact.

      You’re reading too much into it Ribs.

      He was being magnanimous after caning the officials for Bobby’s goal last week.

      We won so he could afford to play nice.

      That’s all, nowt more to see.
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #385: Nov 12, 2018 05:52:43 pm
      Bobby's touch was absolutely awful it came of his knees of his thighs it was just bouncing off him he is out of sorts all this moving around making space nonsense he is there to make goals and score goals and he isn't at the moment.
      I was wondering was this his first World Cup because he had an incredibly long and hard season maybe he just needs a bit of a break.
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #386: Nov 12, 2018 05:56:51 pm
      I've seen it for myself in the post match news conference, as well as 3 newspapers. Some people just believe what they want to through rose tinted goggles. He said it, it is a fact.

      I know he said it but it's not that important. Newspapers...hogwash. I see enough wrong with this side to know when criticism is justified. Yeah we didn't put them to the sword second half but the attack has lost it's way a bit so a solid win is acceptable.

      Could argue that we are in a false position re our current form, but grinding out wins in the past hasn't always been our strong point. City are the dominant force in the Prem and if we can stay in touching distance not playing that well then I'll hold my fire and put any negativity to one side.
      « Last Edit: Nov 12, 2018 06:07:09 pm by Harrisimo »
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #387: Nov 12, 2018 06:02:07 pm
      Points first, style later.

      Simple as that.
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #388: Nov 12, 2018 06:06:38 pm
      Not sure if it’s already been mentioned but our set pieces were absolutely shocking yesterday.

      Free kicks in great positions hitting the wall and corners either flying out the other side or failing to get off the ground.
      No single culprit just everyone who took an attempt!



      Since Gerrard retired we have missed a specialist. I would let Shaqiri take them for now.
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      Re: Liverpool 2:0 Fulham. In game & post match discussion:
      Reply #389: Nov 12, 2018 06:14:04 pm
      Since Gerrard retired we have missed a specialist. I would let Shaqiri take them for now.

      Your lucky...in the 80's...if we got a free kick it was a pound to a penny they would screw it up. We would batter teams but set pieces...always seemed to go tits up.

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