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      Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)

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      Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Nov 25, 2018 02:03:14 pm



      A must not lose game so can't see Shaqiri starting with the front three. Henderson likely to start as he misses the Derby and Klopp trusts him for these big away games. I still cannot see Keita getting the nod unfortunately and I wouldn't play Fabinho.

      I think we can do these. They are full of big names but there is something off about them as a team. I'll say 1-1 though which leaves us needeing to beat Napoli at home more than likely.



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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #1: Nov 26, 2018 12:53:07 am



      A must not lose game so can't see Shaqiri starting with the front three. Henderson likely to start as he misses the Derby and Klopp trusts him for these big away games. I still cannot see Keita getting the nod unfortunately and I wouldn't play Fabinho.

      I think we can do these. They are full of big names but there is something off about them as a team. I'll say 1-1 though which leaves us needeing to beat Napoli at home more than likely.

      Hopefully Gomez can go, although Lovren played well on Saturday. Agree that Gini, Hendo and Milner are the midfield.

      I notice the USA TV people are making us pay per view games more often now. They've figured out who has the hardest core fans and willing to pay to watch. Sad development for some of us.

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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #2: Nov 26, 2018 12:59:10 am
      Hopefully Gomez can go, although Lovren played well on Saturday. Agree that Gini, Hendo and Milner are the midfield.

      I notice the USA TV people are making us pay per view games more often now. They've figured out who has the hardest core fans and willing to pay to watch. Sad development for some of us.

      Doesn't TNT show the group stage then Fox (i believe) does the knockout rounds, which anyone can watch assuming they have those channels in their cable package?
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #3: Nov 26, 2018 01:36:44 am
      I'd put Gini as number 6 and have Keita and Milner as the two central. Henderson isn't playing well right now. I'd start Henderson against Burnley and Bournemouth though.
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #4: Nov 26, 2018 04:01:46 am
      Doesn't TNT show the group stage then Fox (i believe) does the knockout rounds, which anyone can watch assuming they have those channels in their cable package?

      I thought TNT won right for the whole thing. They are only showing two matches per day in the group stage, so always six matches only available on pay-per-view (streaming).  For at least round of 16 and quarterfinals, there will be some matches not available on live TV.
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #5: Nov 26, 2018 04:23:32 am
      I've got a really bad feeling about this one.

      I know why and I'm shitting bricks here.

      Gonna be one hell of a game. Hope we take our game to new heights, we are going to need to if we want to take anything away with us.

      Not looking forward to this at all but at the same time I'm buzzing to knock those Frogs off and then hopefully it all doesn't depend on the Napoli home match.
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #6: Nov 26, 2018 06:37:21 am
      Beat P.S.G. and the  pressure goes off for the knock out stages of this competition.To lose this match is not worth thinking about.
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #7: Nov 26, 2018 08:00:30 am
      We’ll do this mob.

      They have to really have a go at home at that plays into our hands - they were all over the place at Anfield and we got in behind without too much bother there.

      They’re a good footballing side going forward but I think we’re more rounded.
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #8: Nov 26, 2018 12:48:29 pm
      Useless f**king internationals taking away so much playing time that we/all teams have to play so many games by the end of the year. Useless f**king FA.

      I am dredding this match. I hope we can get away with a draw then needing to beat Napoli at home. PSG are really good on their on turf.
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #9: Nov 26, 2018 01:11:21 pm
      PSG seem like a warning about what happens when you try to shoehorn players into a team based only on their value.

      To me, they seem like parts without the sum being greater.

      We'll see, but under Tuchel, I think this team has gone backwards.
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      Reply #10: Nov 26, 2018 03:22:47 pm
      PSG seem like a warning about what happens when you try to shoehorn players into a team based only on their value.

      To me, they seem like parts without the sum being greater.

      We'll see, but under Tuchel, I think this team has gone backwards.
      https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/nov/26/psg-liverpool-kylian-mbappe-neymar-champions-league

      This article thinks otherwise. I have no idea which of you is right, mind.

      I think some mega-stars are more trouble than they are worth and I honestly wouldn't want Neymar on my team (Mbappe would be alright though. :-) ).

      Glad to see the match is Wednesday and not Tuesday. Should help in terms of freshness.




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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #11: Nov 26, 2018 03:27:46 pm
      https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/nov/26/psg-liverpool-kylian-mbappe-neymar-champions-league

      This article thinks otherwise. I have no idea which of you is right, mind.

      I think some mega-stars are more trouble than they are worth and I honestly wouldn't want Neymar on my team (Mbappe would be alright though. :-) ).

      Glad to see the match is Wednesday and not Tuesday. Should help in terms of freshness.

      A good article, which also bears out my point about shoehorning players into a team, rather than buying the best fit.

      It may be that Tuchel has decided to take 1 step back to take two forwards, and that right now they are a team in something of a transition, but I don't see the fluidity of previous seasons, and against us, they looked as though a few of them didn't quite know what to do.

      Not that it matters of course, they'll still be a tough team to beat at home, they have some truly world class players, but so do we :)
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #12: Nov 26, 2018 03:37:50 pm
      Hopefully Gomez can go, although Lovren played well on Saturday. Agree that Gini, Hendo and Milner are the midfield.

      I notice the USA TV people are making us pay per view games more often now. They've figured out who has the hardest core fans and willing to pay to watch. Sad development for some of us.
         

      The game is on univision deportes,i think it's also on the free to air univision.
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #13: Nov 26, 2018 04:54:11 pm
      We know we will have to beat Napoli at home - just by how many is the worry. Can’t see us winning in Paris.
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #14: Nov 26, 2018 05:43:08 pm
      our European away form has gone off a bit and we need to really make a statement on Weds and I think we can .
      There is a gathering confidence throughout the team now and they seem happy to stick to the plan even if it takes nearly all the game to  make it work. Just do what they have been doing all season and we can come away with a win.
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #15: Nov 26, 2018 05:55:39 pm
         

      The game is on univision deportes,i think it's also on the free to air univision.

      Just checked and it is! Thanks for this good news. I don't speak espanol so well, but in all seriousness, how often does a comm say something that you really need to hear? The Latino comms often do better at conveying the passion of the occasion, anyway. DVR duly set. Thanks again...amigo.
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #16: Nov 26, 2018 06:24:39 pm
      Don’t lose.

      Assuming Neymar and Mbappé are going to be fit for this one.
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #17: Nov 26, 2018 06:28:19 pm
      Just checked and it is! Thanks for this good news. I don't speak espanol so well, but in all seriousness, how often does a comm say something that you really need to hear? The Latino comms often do better at conveying the passion of the occasion, anyway. DVR duly set. Thanks again...amigo.

      Do you listen to the commentary?

      I usually turn it off to be honest.

      No offense, but the last time I listened to a US commentary, I wanted to stick sharpened stakes in my ears to make it go away.
      I settled for the mute button though ;)
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #18: Nov 26, 2018 06:31:46 pm
      Do you listen to the commentary?

      I usually turn it off to be honest.

      No offense, but the last time I listened to a US commentary, I wanted to stick sharpened stakes in my ears to make it go away.
      I settled for the mute button though ;)

      i watched the highlights of Eibar and Real Madrid from what i believe was the BeIn Sports feed and the analyst screams every time there is a close call. It was brutal.
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #19: Nov 26, 2018 07:09:44 pm
      Do you listen to the commentary?

      I usually turn it off to be honest.

      No offense, but the last time I listened to a US commentary, I wanted to stick sharpened stakes in my ears to make it go away.
      I settled for the mute button though ;)
       

      The only plus for me with the yank commentary is when ya sat at the bar, i kinda look less of a loon billy no mates yelling at the telly!
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #20: Nov 26, 2018 07:32:21 pm
      Useless f**king internationals taking away so much playing time that we/all teams have to play so many games by the end of the year. Useless f**king FA.

      I am dredding this match. I hope we can get away with a draw then needing to beat Napoli at home. PSG are really good on their on turf.

      Now no disrespect but we have won 5 European Cups...we fight like cat & dog to stay in the competition and we should welcome these games. The bigger the better. Bring it on I say. I know you back us to the hilt but we go there confident - we are Liverpool FC and PSG will feel the full force of this great club.
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #21: Nov 26, 2018 08:09:45 pm
      Mane doubtful with illness
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #22: Nov 26, 2018 08:51:54 pm
      I think the best way to win this is to go out and try enjoy it. I personally think Salah will get lots of opportunities and he looks very confident - it’s time he scored a big goal against a big team this season (hoping for a double from him)

      If form is anything like the previous two away fixtures then we are fu**ed.
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #23: Nov 26, 2018 09:05:22 pm

      If he doesn't make it Klopp might go with Shaq rather than the obvious Sturridge. Almost a 4-4-2...might do although I wouldn't be against Studge coming in.
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #24: Nov 26, 2018 09:10:34 pm
      Do you listen to the commentary?

      I usually turn it off to be honest.

      No offense, but the last time I listened to a US commentary, I wanted to stick sharpened stakes in my ears to make it go away.
      I settled for the mute button though ;)

      Heh. No offense taken. I keep the sound up so I can hear the crowd. Many of the comms we get are from the UK feed (the same guys who you'll get on Match of the Day when they roll through "the other" matches). NBC Sports has the Premier League rights and for their feature match we'll get Arlo White who used to work for 5 Live, but is obsessed with Man United.

      When Fox had Champions League they would put American analysts like Alexi Lalas on and it was excruciating. I'd gladly take the Spanish feed over that. Now that it's TBS, I think they are using the UEFA-provided feed. I know Simon Brotherton did one of the matches. It's OK, but nothing to write home about.

      The TBS studio commentary is embarrassingly poor, never more so then when Oguchi Onyewu, following a group stage match, referred to the "return leg" as deciding "the tie."
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #25: Nov 26, 2018 09:26:11 pm
      The TBS studio commentary is embarrassingly poor, never more so then when Oguchi Onyewu, following a group stage match, referred to the "return leg" as deciding "the tie."

      Ha ha that is so cringe! I couldn’t watch
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #26: Nov 26, 2018 09:47:32 pm
      Not looking forward to this one at all. The CL campaign as a whole feels flat to me this time around.

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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #27: Nov 27, 2018 03:29:06 am
      Can we still make it to the KO stages with our own power if we lose it?

      Anything is possible: win, draw or loss. Tough game, but defining game.
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #28: Nov 27, 2018 04:22:42 am
      I would be tempted to go with 

                                                                 Alisson

                            Gomez            Lovren                Van Dijk              Robertson

                                                                 Fabinho
                                                 Wijnaldum              Milner

                          Mane                                                                Salah
                                                               Bobby

      I just think Gomez will be defensively more solid than Trent at this stage. Fabinho played in France for Monaco, he knows PSG.
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      Re: Pre-Match: PSG V Liverpool (28/11/18 - 20:00)
      Reply #29: Nov 27, 2018 09:37:24 am



      A must not lose game so can't see Shaqiri starting with the front three. Henderson likely to start as he misses the Derby and Klopp trusts him for these big away games. I still cannot see Keita getting the nod unfortunately and I wouldn't play Fabinho.

      I think we can do these. They are full of big names but there is something off about them as a team. I'll say 1-1 though which leaves us needeing to beat Napoli at home more than likely.





      I don't like that at all, I agree with perhaps being more defensive but I don't think packing the midfield with negative players is very smart as their midfield will just swarm us and it will be attack after attack for 90 minutes and with the quality they have they will score at some point and then we'll not have enough offensive quality to attack them.
      If we want to be a bit more defensive then I'd rather go with a 5-2-3 formation and play Lovren and Gomez alongside VVD and have Keita/Shaq and Fabinho in midfield so that we still have a bit of drive going forwards.

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