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      Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)

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      heimdall
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #30: Nov 30, 2018 03:28:58 pm
      No I'm suggesting that I see people keep naming him to start and so far he has not played well enough imo to warrant starting, especially a Merseyside Derby.

      In your opinion the times you have seen him play has he been worse than Henderson and if so in what way was he worse?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #31: Nov 30, 2018 03:30:05 pm
      Jesus,think i might swerve this place if we don't win this one.The lunatics have got the keys already,manager is sh*te, keeper sh*te,vvd not in the top ten defenders,no midfield,and strikers,that can't score.cue some dad's army....



                                                                                       
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #32: Nov 30, 2018 03:31:00 pm
      Jesus,think i might swerve this place if we don't win this one.The lunatics have got the keys already,manager is sh*te, keeper sh*te,vvd not in the top ten defenders,no midfield,and strikers,that can't score.cue some dad's army....



                                                                                       

       :laugh: :laugh:

      Another funny one, you're on a roll today ;)
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #33: Nov 30, 2018 03:35:03 pm
      Jesus,think i might swerve this place if we don't win this one.The lunatics have got the keys already,manager is sh*te, keeper sh*te,vvd not in the top ten defenders,no midfield,and strikers,that can't score.cue some dad's army....



                                                                                       

      The manager is not sh*te but he is stubborn, Jürgen is very very good but I do feel he has lost his way a bit after Buvac left, remember that it was Klopp himself who referred to Buvac as the tactical brains in his team an dI'm not sure Ljinders has quite filled those boots.

      Allison is one of the best signings ever, anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

      We have very good midfielders if only Jürgen will take a chance on them, he needs to take a risk and stop relying on the old guard of Henderson and Milner, they will never win us anything but they are still useful to have in the squad.

      We have superb strikers but they are currently being starved of service because of the poor and negative midfield style compared to last year.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #34: Nov 30, 2018 03:35:44 pm
      Jesus,think i might swerve this place if we don't win this one.The lunatics have got the keys already,manager is sh*te, keeper sh*te,vvd not in the top ten defenders,no midfield,and strikers,that can't score.cue some dad's army....



                                                                                       

      Chicken Little syndrome.

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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #35: Nov 30, 2018 03:36:50 pm

      No idea what that means, or what Chicken Little is.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #36: Nov 30, 2018 03:40:07 pm
      No idea what that means, or what Chicken Little is.

      Fairy story / folk tale.

      Chicken Little gets hit on the head by an acorn and thinks the sky is falling down.......

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_Little

      Kinda apt, don’t ya think.....?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #37: Nov 30, 2018 03:41:57 pm
      Fairy story / folk tale.

      Chicken Little gets hit on the head by an acorn and thinks the sky is falling down.......

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_Little

      Kinda apt, don’t ya think.....?

      Very apt.

      In fact they may henceforth be known as "the littlers"
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #38: Nov 30, 2018 03:53:30 pm
      Very apt.

      In fact they may henceforth be known as "the littlers"

      Gene Littler was an American  golfer. Won the US Open  one year. Why bring him into it?

      Edit: all my facts wuz wrong.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #39: Nov 30, 2018 03:54:39 pm
      Gene Littler was a South African golfer. Won the PGA Championship one year. Why bring him into it?

      He was a big Hendo fan though tbf
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #40: Nov 30, 2018 04:04:14 pm
      He was a big Hendo fan though tbf

      Sshhh...Do let them find out what Kenny thinks of Henderson...🤫
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #41: Nov 30, 2018 04:06:46 pm
      Sshhh...Do let them find out what Kenny thinks of Henderson...🤫

      I mentioned the war Shabs, but I think I got away with it.....
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #42: Nov 30, 2018 05:20:37 pm
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      Start with Danny, bring on Bobby.

      Everton have looked a lot better in the last month.  Think they'll get a European spot this season.  Not the walkovers they used to be but still - we're a much better side than they are.

      That would be my team also, I think Leita is ready for a start and I’m not a big fane of Bobby playing behind Salah.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #43: Nov 30, 2018 05:55:57 pm
      The manager is not sh*te but he is stubborn, Jürgen is very very good but I do feel he has lost his way a bit after Buvac left, remember that it was Klopp himself who referred to Buvac as the tactical brains in his team an dI'm not sure Ljinders has quite filled those boots.

      Allison is one of the best signings ever, anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

      We have very good midfielders if only Jürgen will take a chance on them, he needs to take a risk and stop relying on the old guard of Henderson and Milner, they will never win us anything but they are still useful to have in the squad.

      We have superb strikers but they are currently being starved of service because of the poor and negative midfield style compared to last year.
      Klopp is very good at signing players. He didn't sign Moreno, Mignolet, Henderson, Lovren... He signed Alisson, Van Dijk, Salah.. etc .. it's his ability to get such amazing talent that gets us results.
      Before anybody says about unbeaten this season, we've been very lucky, bad performances won't work forever. It's because we have such good players we can win when playing badly. Klopp had the defense sorted with Van Dijk and Gomez as CB with Robertson and Trent as FB, but he's destroying it to accommodate players such as Lovren who should be rotated and not accomodated. Alisson is world class, he deserves all the credit for our success so far this season. When he gets MOTM in a game we lost that speaks volumes. Our forwards are class and will improve throughout the season. Where Klopp gets it wrong is midfield. I constantly moaned about Henderson, Mignolet and Moreno... only Henderson is left but I don't think we need to worry, Klopp was slow to replace Moreno and Mignolet... He even praised them. Henderson is running out of chances, he signed Fabinho for a reason. I honestly think Henderson has put Klopp in a bad position now and it is coming to a fork in the road, last season this fork was Mignolet. This season it is;

      a) drop Henderson
      b) lose credibility

      I'm 80% sure it will be a and Keita or Fabinho will get more minutes. Henderson's drop into squad player has already started. Juventus is a must win game, if Henderson starts and we don't get out the group, Klopps invincibility will be gone and the fan base split. Klopp won't risk that. He knows the problem, that's why he lost control to get himself touchline ban against Napoli. Klopp never loses it with refs, but his anger is deeper than that. If we go out and thrash Everton 5-0, Klopp has to understand that this is our first xi. It's important for a very functioning midfield to display what we're missing. Seeing players on training is not the same as seeing players on match day, Klopp seems almost tricked by training performances.
      « Last Edit: Nov 30, 2018 06:01:34 pm by Ribapuru »
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #44: Nov 30, 2018 06:00:04 pm
      Klopp is very good at signing players. He didn't sign Moreno, Mignolet, Henderson, Lovren... He signed Alisson, Van Dijk, Salah.. etc .. it's his ability to get such amazing talent that gets us results.
      Before anybody says about unbeaten this season, we've been very lucky, bad performances won't work forever. It's because we have such good players we can win when playing badly. Klopp had the defense sorted with Van Dijk and Gomez as CB with Robertson and Trent as FB, but he's destroying it to accommodate players such as Lovren who should be rotated and not accomodated. Alisson is world class, he deserves all the credit for our success so far this season. When he gets MOTM in a game we lost that speaks volumes. Our forwards are class and will improve throughout the season. Where Klopp gets it wrong is midfield. I constantly moaned about Henderson, Mignolet and Moreno... only Henderson is left but I don't think we need to worry, Klopp was slow to replace Moreno and Mignolet... He even praised them. Henderson is running out of chances, he signed Fabinho for a reason. I honestly think Henderson has put Klopp in a bad position now and it is coming to a fork in the road, last season this fork was Mignolet. This season it is;

      a) drop Henderson
      b) lose credibility

      I'm 80% sure it will be a and Keita or Fabinho will get more minutes. Henderson's drop into squad player has already started. Juventus is a must win game, if Henderson starts and we don't get out the group, Klopps invincibility will be gone and the fan base split. Klopp won't risk that. He knows the problem, that's why he lost control to get himself touchline ban against Napoli. Klopp never loses it with refs, but his anger is deeper than that.

      The only person who has lost all credibility is you.

      You don't half post some f**king sh*t.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #45: Nov 30, 2018 06:01:32 pm
      The only person who has lost all credibility is you.

      You don't half post some f**king sh*t.
      That means he had credibility in the first place ?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #46: Nov 30, 2018 06:03:00 pm
      That means he had credibility in the first place ?

      More like amused indulgence when he first appeared.

      Treat yourself and read some of his early posts.
      They're a great laugh.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #47: Nov 30, 2018 06:05:01 pm
      More like amused indulgence when he first appeared.

      Treat yourself and read some of his early posts.
      They're a great laugh.

      Oh don’t worry I know him from old  ;)
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #48: Nov 30, 2018 06:06:55 pm
      Oh don’t worry I know him from old  ;)

      ahh, OK, obviously I'm missing something, or have forgotten.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #49: Nov 30, 2018 06:09:22 pm
      Klopp is very good at signing players. He didn't sign Moreno, Mignolet, Henderson, Lovren... He signed Alisson, Van Dijk, Salah.. etc .. it's his ability to get such amazing talent that gets us results.
      Before anybody says about unbeaten this season, we've been very lucky, bad performances won't work forever. It's because we have such good players we can win when playing badly. Klopp had the defense sorted with Van Dijk and Gomez as CB with Robertson and Trent as FB, but he's destroying it to accommodate players such as Lovren who should be rotated and not accomodated. Alisson is world class, he deserves all the credit for our success so far this season. When he gets MOTM in a game we lost that speaks volumes. Our forwards are class and will improve throughout the season. Where Klopp gets it wrong is midfield. I constantly moaned about Henderson, Mignolet and Moreno... only Henderson is left but I don't think we need to worry, Klopp was slow to replace Moreno and Mignolet... He even praised them. Henderson is running out of chances, he signed Fabinho for a reason. I honestly think Henderson has put Klopp in a bad position now and it is coming to a fork in the road, last season this fork was Mignolet. This season it is;

      a) drop Henderson
      b) lose credibility

      I'm 80% sure it will be a and Keita or Fabinho will get more minutes. Henderson's drop into squad player has already started. Juventus is a must win game, if Henderson starts and we don't get out the group, Klopps invincibility will be gone and the fan base split. Klopp won't risk that. He knows the problem, that's why he lost control to get himself touchline ban against Napoli. Klopp never loses it with refs, but his anger is deeper than that. If we go out and thrash Everton 5-0, Klopp has to understand that this is our first xi. It's important for a very functioning midfield to display what we're missing. Seeing players on training is not the same as seeing players on match day, Klopp seems almost tricked by training performances.

      Oh just f**k off - you talk so much sh*t it’s actually unbelievable. You must be f**king having us on? Surely you can’t be this thick?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #50: Nov 30, 2018 06:10:07 pm
      ahh, OK, obviously I'm missing something, or have forgotten.

      From another forum long since forgotten  :)
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #51: Nov 30, 2018 06:10:14 pm
      The only person who has lost all credibility is you.

      You don't half post some f**king sh*t.
      quote author=Lallana in Pyjamas link=topic=50672.msg2192930#msg2192930 date=1543600892]
      That means he had credibility in the first place ?
      [/quote]
      Can tell where Swab got the up vote. Pathetic thoughtless replies that don't debate, just character assasinate.

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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #52: Nov 30, 2018 06:11:56 pm
      From another forum long since forgotten  :)

      Fair enough mate.

      This is the only one I've ever been on.

      Is the other forum where he learned to copy and paste wiki?
      ;)
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #53: Nov 30, 2018 06:14:00 pm
      It's obvious. Klopp will lose credibility of he doesn't deal with Henderson. It's like saying Police force can ignore crime but still have credibility. Don't be dumb guys. It's not the right thread for this anyway. 3-0 to pool is my prediction. If we had Hendo available I'd say 2-1.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #54: Nov 30, 2018 06:15:14 pm
      Oh just f**k off - you talk so much sh*t it’s actually unbelievable. You must be f**king having us on? Surely you can’t be this thick?
      i don't think saying Klopp is good at signing players is that bad. If you think that then you are a minority.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #55: Nov 30, 2018 06:17:35 pm
      It's obvious. Klopp will lose credibility of he doesn't deal with Henderson. It's like saying Police force can ignore crime but still have credibility. Don't be dumb guys. It's not the right thread for this anyway. 3-0 to pool is my prediction. If we had Hendo available I'd say 2-1.

      If it's not the right thread, why did you make such a long post banging on about it?

      No one else brought it up.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #56: Nov 30, 2018 06:19:09 pm
      If it's not the right thread, why did you make such a long post banging on about it?

      No one else brought it up.
      was replying, if you could read you'd see that. I'd suggest getting back on topic.
      « Last Edit: Nov 30, 2018 06:24:05 pm by Ribapuru »
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #57: Nov 30, 2018 06:19:45 pm
      There is nothing like a mature debate, and this is definitely nothing like a mature debate
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #58: Nov 30, 2018 06:22:25 pm
      There is nothing like a mature debate, and this is definitely nothing like a mature debate
      There's no debates here, people see something they don't agree with and it's just name calling. It's pathetic. No matter how much people disagree they should actually try to form a response to what they disagree with and why, with their own opinion.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Everton (02/12/18 - 16:15)
      Reply #59: Nov 30, 2018 06:29:03 pm
      There's no debates here, people see something they don't agree with and it's just name calling. It's pathetic. No matter how much people disagree they should actually try to form a response to what they disagree with and why, with their own opinion.

      Saying Klopp will lose credibility if he doesn't get rid of Henderson isn't an opinion, it's a fantasy and a load of tripe, with absolutely nothing to back it up.

      In order for an opinion to have merit, it has to have a basis in some sort of fact, not some weird anti Henderson daydream that you alone have.

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