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      Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)

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      German_Panzer
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #25: Dec 03, 2018 10:40:25 pm
      The Everton win will be annihilated if we lose it or draw. We need to win.

      I want to see Keita for 90min. We need him, I see not a realistc chance without a good Keita later against Napoli because Keita has that ability to do what Ox did: take the ball, run it deep and then a smart pass...and that's exactly what we need, so bring him and hope he's getting into some rhythm.

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      Shaq-Fab-Keita
      Salah-Bobby-Mané (if injured: Origi)
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #26: Dec 03, 2018 11:11:41 pm
      Reckon hendo will start.  :couch:
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #27: Dec 03, 2018 11:37:44 pm

      ...if he has nude pics of Jürgen and threatens to go public. Hendo shouldn't even be considered if Milner and Keita are fit. It's obvious Jürgen doesn't like him but hasn't the options yet to axe him, so he has to play along.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #28: Dec 03, 2018 11:50:32 pm
      ...if he has nude pics of Jürgen and threatens to go public. Hendo shouldn't even be considered if Milner and Keita are fit. It's obvious Jürgen doesn't like him but hasn't the options yet to axe him, so he has to play along.

      Do you really think jurgen thinks like that ?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #29: Dec 04, 2018 12:27:34 am
      Depending on the formation, if we go 4-2-3-1, I'd freshen things up with:

      Alisson

      TAA   Lovren   VVD   Moreno

      Henderson   Fabinho

      Salah   Keita   Mane

      Origi


      With the Christmas schedule coming up, resting players isn't a consideration, it's a requirement. Firmino just isn't working as a number 10 and I'd give him a rest ahead of the madness at the end of the month. We're also going to need to rotate moving forward so players need to get minutes into them and Burnley isn't the Burnley of last season, they're struggling so throw a bone to some fringe players and tell them to prove why they should be rotated in to the side.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #30: Dec 04, 2018 01:17:56 am
      Do you really think jurgen thinks like that ?

      I know it because I follow Jürgen since his time in Mainz. He'd never talk bad about a player, in fact he'll always praise his players. Only his actions tell you what he really thinks. He's not happy with Henderson, I can see and feel it the way he talks about him in contrast to the way he uses him. But he has no options. If he pisses away Hendo who does he have he can trust blindly: Gini and Milner, that's it right now.

      I do not say Hendo is a bad player, but he's not good enough for this team and its ambitions. Therefore he took Keita. Keita is so much better than Hendo, it's almost surreal, but for some reason he's a shadow of his form in Leipzig. Also Fabinho is better than Henderson, but in another area, but as Keita he's slow to get into form. That's the only reason Henderson still sees some pitch on game day. If one of the above gets going, he'll become what Moreno, Clyne, Mig and Lallana are right now: deep bench warmer & injury insurance.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #31: Dec 04, 2018 03:16:10 am
      One of those games on the calendar list that I never look forward to. I hate Burnley.

      I'd make a couple of changes for this game.

      Sorry Shaq but I'm taking you out mate. He's done nothing wrong, but whenever he starts it means we move Salah and firmino around and it's affecting them both. Even if they aren't scoring they still cause defenders all kinds of problems in their usual positions.

      I'm also taking gini out. Gini is a player who frustrates the sh*t out of me. I think he's a very good player but doesn't have the mind/determination to be a top player. He goes missing way too often and there's just no consistency with him. He picks and chooses when he can be bothered basically and this is the type of game I feel would pass him by.

      So, same back five.

      Fabinho keeps his place who played well on Sunday. Alongside him im goin to put Milner and Keita.

      Then our usual front three.

      I don't want to see Lovren, or bloody Henderson, or bloody shaqiri playing meaning we keep Bobby and Salah out of position.

      3 points is a must, these are sh*te.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #32: Dec 04, 2018 07:35:37 am
      The Everton win will be annihilated if we lose it or draw. We need to win.


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      Salah-Bobby-Mané (if injured: Origi)

      But Everton didn't win.And Burnley won't win either.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #33: Dec 04, 2018 09:42:18 am
      One of those games on the calendar list that I never look forward to. I hate Burnley.

      I'd make a couple of changes for this game.

      Sorry Shaq but I'm taking you out mate. He's done nothing wrong, but whenever he starts it means we move Salah and firmino around and it's affecting them both. Even if they aren't scoring they still cause defenders all kinds of problems in their usual positions.

      I'm also taking gini out. Gini is a player who frustrates the sh*t out of me. I think he's a very good player but doesn't have the mind/determination to be a top player. He goes missing way too often and there's just no consistency with him. He picks and chooses when he can be bothered basically and this is the type of game I feel would pass him by.

      So, same back five.

      Fabinho keeps his place who played well on Sunday. Alongside him im goin to put Milner and Keita.

      Then our usual front three.

      I don't want to see Lovren, or bloody Henderson, or bloody shaqiri playing meaning we keep Bobby and Salah out of position.

      3 points is a must, these are sh*te.

      I agree with that, but Burnley are not even close to the threat they were is previous seasons, they really are bloody awful at the moment with a very leaky defence. We really should be winning this game and hopefully quite comfortably. I'm more nervous about Bournemouth to be honest but they also are very hot and cold at the moment, hopefully they don't hit form against us.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #34: Dec 04, 2018 10:08:23 am
      One of those games on the calendar list that I never look forward to. I hate Burnley.

      I'd make a couple of changes for this game.

      Sorry Shaq but I'm taking you out mate. He's done nothing wrong, but whenever he starts it means we move Salah and firmino around and it's affecting them both. Even if they aren't scoring they still cause defenders all kinds of problems in their usual positions.

      I'm also taking gini out. Gini is a player who frustrates the sh*t out of me. I think he's a very good player but doesn't have the mind/determination to be a top player. He goes missing way too often and there's just no consistency with him. He picks and chooses when he can be bothered basically and this is the type of game I feel would pass him by.

      So, same back five.

      Fabinho keeps his place who played well on Sunday. Alongside him im goin to put Milner and Keita.

      Then our usual front three.

      I don't want to see Lovren, or bloody Henderson, or bloody shaqiri playing meaning we keep Bobby and Salah out of position.

      3 points is a must, these are sh*te.

      Your going to be disappointed because I can see Jürgen playing all three of them as we have some massive games coming up and he will look to use his squad fully to keep them fresh.
      I saw good signs from Fabhino I don't know why it is taking him so long to settle but he is at last looking like the player we paid a lot of money for and the same for Kieta too. I think we may see Hendo in the middle with these two either side.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #35: Dec 04, 2018 12:58:25 pm
      No point risking Mane with all the games coming up IMO.

      Give Sturridge the start, replace with Origi if required during the game.

      Milner back in, Henderson likely to come back in.  Try and get another good half hour for Keita.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #36: Dec 04, 2018 01:05:04 pm
      No point risking Mane with all the games coming up IMO.

      Give Sturridge the start, replace with Origi if required during the game.

      Milner back in, Henderson likely to come back in.  Try and get another good half hour for Keita.
      I'd start Keita against Bournemouth, so 30 minutes against Burnley is good. I'd also play Hendo because he can cope okay against these, then I'd Fab a chance
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #37: Dec 04, 2018 01:06:53 pm
      No point risking Mane with all the games coming up IMO.

      Give Sturridge the start, replace with Origi if required during the game.

      Milner back in, Henderson likely to come back in.  Try and get another good half hour for Keita.

      I’d love to see...Origi,Hendo,Kieta,Fabinho,Shaqiri all start..
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #38: Dec 04, 2018 01:23:33 pm
      Always a cold place to go this time of year, got my seat in with away fans again!!

      I think Bobby needs a break.


                                              Allison

                                 TTA   VVD  Lovren  Robbo

                                          Milner     Fab

                                           Big Shaq or Keita


                                      Salah     Origi      Mane   
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #39: Dec 04, 2018 01:26:11 pm
      Always a cold place to go this time of year, got my seat in with away fans again!!

      I think Bobby needs a break.


                                              Allison

                                 TTA   VVD  Lovren  Robbo

                                          Milner     Fab

                                           Big Shaq or Keita

                                      Salah     Origi      Mane
      i would go with this, we'd have an advantage using 12 men.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #40: Dec 04, 2018 01:27:30 pm
      I only see 11 players myself!!
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #41: Dec 04, 2018 01:30:59 pm
      If Mane and Robbo are out

      Alisson

      AA
      Lovren
      VVD
      Moreno

      Henderson
      Milner
      Keita

      Shaqiri
      Firmino
      Salah
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #42: Dec 04, 2018 01:34:04 pm
      i missed the or.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #43: Dec 04, 2018 01:35:49 pm
      Would be good if Burnley do as well!
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #44: Dec 04, 2018 01:40:50 pm
      If Mane and Robbo are out

      Alisson

      AA
      Lovren
      VVD
      Moreno

      Henderson
      Milner
      Keita

      Shaqiri
      Firmino
      Salah

      You want to put Moreno and Lovren in the same defense plus Jordan and James in midfield ,for me it’s either or I wouldn’t be having both .
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #45: Dec 04, 2018 01:46:37 pm
      If Mane and Robbo are out

      Alisson

      AA
      Lovren
      VVD
      Moreno

      Henderson
      Milner
      Keita

      Shaqiri
      Firmino
      Salah
      i don't usually ridicule line ups, but i need restraint here.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #46: Dec 04, 2018 01:53:11 pm
                   Alisson

      Milner VVD Gomez TAA

             Hendo       Gini
                      Keita
           
         Shaqiri             Origi
                       Salah

      Robbo and Mane should be rested as they're doubts. There's no way Moreno should be coming into the side. Fab got Everton and I'd give him Bournemouth as well... Burnley should be less of a test so Henderson should get this, because of rotation to give others a rest. Milner and Hendo didn't work well together in midfield, but Milner will be needed to cover Robbo anyway. Lovren should only be getting on for last 20 minutes if we're winning. Centre backs shouldn't get as tired as forwards, less rotation needed for these roles. Firmino needs to have a rest probably.
      « Last Edit: Dec 04, 2018 01:58:43 pm by Ribapuru »
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #47: Dec 04, 2018 02:05:08 pm
      I’d love to see...Origi,Hendo,Kieta,Fabinho,Shaqiri all start..

      Same here and what if they destroy Burnley and win 5=0. I would be really interested to se how Henderson/Kieta and Fab work out.
      I trust Jürgen to pick his team with the back end of the season in mind because that's when we need Mo and Mane and Bobby and all of the lads at their best and massively hungry for success. Not underestimating Burnley one bit but we have a squad of players who have to able to go to Burnley and win well.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #48: Dec 04, 2018 02:49:08 pm
      You want to put Moreno and Lovren in the same defense plus Jordan and James in midfield ,for me it’s either or I wouldn’t be having both .

      A lot of the players played a very hard match on Sunday so there will be changes

      Hopefully Robbo is fit and will play if not then Moreno will play

      Gomez is suspended for the Napoli match and Burnley are a bit more physical so Lovren will come in as

      Henderson and Milner will also both play - both didn’t play a minute on Sunday so will come in again

      This now is the time the manager uses the full squad - I know people don’t rate all the players but the manager does and he will play them against Burnley
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      Re: Pre-Match: Burnley V Liverpool (05/12/18 - 19:45)
      Reply #49: Dec 04, 2018 03:02:59 pm
      A lot of the players played a very hard match on Sunday so there will be changes

      Hopefully Robbo is fit and will play if not then Moreno will play

      Gomez is suspended for the Napoli match and Burnley are a bit more physical so Lovren will come in as

      Henderson and Milner will also both play - both didn’t play a minute on Sunday so will come in again

      This now is the time the manager uses the full squad - I know people don’t rate all the players but the manager does and he will play them against Burnley
      Will surprise me if them four feature together tbh Moreno is just a shocking defender would rather put Milly there and that’s saying something .

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