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      Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      Scottbot
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #570: Dec 05, 2018 10:21:10 pm
      Don't mistake resilience for a good performance. We held in there despite performing very poorly until Jürgen made changes and it was only once those changes were made that we began to trouble Burnley. I'm made up with the result but let's not kid ourselves into thinking that was anything other than a poor showing from our fringe players.

      Don’t underestimate the importance of resilience though. We haven’t really had any for 10 years, plenty of good performances in that time but zero ability to grind out results, defend, have confidence in our ability to defend etc. It gets downplayed too much.

      As for the performance, it was poor in the first half but we played well in the 2nd half from kickoff through to the finish. The goal was the only blip. 
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      Reply #571: Dec 05, 2018 10:22:53 pm
      Watching in stand didntq get clear  view of their goal did Alisson have  a shocker ?

      Wasn't really a massive mistake.  Think he was expecting the first lad to get a touch to it.  In any case, he had a pretty excellent game and yet again played a key part in an injury time goal.

      People say how much van Dijk has improved our defence, but the goalkeeper has taken it to a different level.  6 goals conceded after 15 is the joint best ever.  And it was less than 12 months ago that many on here were in agreement that Klopp couldn't coach a team to defend.  Astonishing transformation really.
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #572: Dec 05, 2018 10:23:25 pm
      Poor squad? Poor squads don't run second in the Premier League.

      This one does. When you see mahrez and sane as City backup and them flying without De Bruyne you see what we are up against when we call on Sturridge and Origi.

      It will be these midweek games and games after champions league ties in which Klopp looks to his squad options that will trip us up I believe.

      The Gomez injury now brings Matip and Lovren in to the equation. Moreno played today.

      It's not a poor squad in PL standards because many teams would love to have it but to take on City it's still a huge handicap.
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #573: Dec 05, 2018 10:23:43 pm
      Don't mistake resilience for a good performance. We held in there despite performing very poorly until Jürgen made changes and it was only once those changes were made that we began to trouble Burnley. I'm made up with the result but let's not kid ourselves into thinking that was anything other than a poor showing from our fringe players.

      Milner scored before "Jürgen made changes".
      It's a squad game.
      Today Jürgen used the squad and it went something like this.

      Jürgen: Firmino, Salah. Time to win the game.

      Firmino: Feel fresh as f**k now for the end of this.

      Tiring Burnley: Ah FFS
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      Reply #574: Dec 05, 2018 10:24:11 pm
      Klopp rotates heavily again during this early December double header just like last year. But last year we played an Everton team managed by Sam Allardyce and a wretched West Brom side managed by Alan Pardew and where we only got two points from those two games we get maximum points from these two we've just played.
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #575: Dec 05, 2018 10:24:35 pm
      You say 'we're close but we're not there yet' to building a DYNASTY but you've spent the last few matches saying 'it is what it is', 'we're so poor and that is the reality' etc etc.

      It makes sense but unfortunately you are  :roll: to see it. And your "advice" holds more for you than anybody.
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #576: Dec 05, 2018 10:27:59 pm
      Well after the disappointing start, then Burnley taking the lead, I held Off from spouting off about what a sh*t side we’d put up, and too many changes has cost us, etc etc etc.
      Then we gained a bit of composure and actually started to move the ball around a bit quicker.
      After Millie’s goal, we did start to play quite decent. Then the subs arrived and we stepped up another gear, so my rant was put on hold 😁
      End of the day, Jürgen s trust in his squad players was justified, mostly, and a good result after a poor start.
      Gave Keita my motm as he did keep things going in the right direction until everyone else got up to speed.
      Delighted with the 3 points, and results around us went well also.
      City play Chavs on sat, who will be realing after losing tonight. If we can beat Bournemouth, we could see a change at the top 😁
      Come on you RED MEN !
      « Last Edit: Dec 05, 2018 10:34:25 pm by GERNS »
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #577: Dec 05, 2018 10:28:47 pm
      Even best goalkeepers in the world make mistakes mate.

      Yep, we’ve been down that road a few times.
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      Reply #578: Dec 05, 2018 10:29:18 pm
      It makes sense but unfortunately you are  :roll: to see it. And your "advice" holds more for you than anybody.

      Amazing comeback.
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      Reply #579: Dec 05, 2018 10:32:09 pm
      It makes sense but unfortunately you are  :roll: to see it. And your "advice" holds more for you than anybody.

      Just log off and get back to sleep.
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #580: Dec 05, 2018 10:33:10 pm
      Here are my thoughts:

      1. Pretty decent 2nd half after a weak 1st half. Not a methodical win, but also nothing to moan about.
      2. Sturridge is not up to the game anymore, he's too slow with too little work rate; let him be our joker and part ways after the season.
      3. Shaq is also pretty slow which answers the question why he's not world class despite his ball skills; did have an OK game.
      4. Keita is  :-* , just a skillful player and it's just the beginning; would not be surprised if he's Ballon d'Or candidate in 1-2 years.
      5. Gomez is some blow but we have Lovren, so no disaster.
      6. I still hope for Fekir; if this dude hits it and stays injury-free he might be our last puzzle piece to a dynasty; we are close but not there yet.
      7. Moreno was OK, nobody was exceptional today, but also nobody did sh*t.
      Fixed
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #581: Dec 05, 2018 10:35:03 pm
      If we can beat Bournemouth, we could see a change at the top 😁

      If.
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #582: Dec 05, 2018 10:35:09 pm
      Fantastic result in the end. Could easily have lost that game after going a goal down, up until the Keita strike we hadn’t created anything.

      Harsh goal to concede, the deflection definitely wrong footed Alisson a bit but still very nearly recovered.

      Looking forward to seeing a lot more of Keita, some great touches from him tonight and good to see one of our mids get the ball and straight away look to drive forward.

      6 ahead of Spurs in 3rd and 8 ahead of 4th and 5th Chavs and Arsenal. Oh and 16 ahead of Mancs and Bitters. F***ing love it! Let’s hope we can beat Bournemouth and the Chavs do us a favour but with their defence I won’t be holdin my breath.

      Well in lads.
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #583: Dec 05, 2018 10:36:30 pm
      Should be level on points with City, remember that disallowed Mane goal against Spurs?
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #584: Dec 05, 2018 10:39:51 pm
      Should be level on points with City, remember that disallowed Mane goal against Spurs?

      We beat Spurs...
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #585: Dec 05, 2018 10:41:36 pm
      I think the
      Goal was disallowed against City...

      Arsenal
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #586: Dec 05, 2018 10:42:08 pm
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #587: Dec 05, 2018 10:43:04 pm

      Bugger! Beat me to it for my edit 🙄
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #588: Dec 05, 2018 10:45:22 pm
      what a great couple of Days for us with so many results going our way. When the top 4 play the same day it always seems to be that one of them drop points but not us it was Spurs at the weekend and Chelsea and Arsenal tonight so another reason to celebrate
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      Reply #589: Dec 05, 2018 10:45:34 pm
      Hope that burnley team go down, darkages football try injury players l taught we play lot better in second half hope Gomez is OK
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      Reply #590: Dec 05, 2018 10:50:47 pm
      Keita has made  himself a selection in our first 11
      Feel we have to go back to a 4-3-3 now
      Therefore naby, Fabinho and Gini as our midfield.
      Get mo back onto the right...no more of him up front. Have Bobby as our false number 9 and mane doing what mane does.
      At the back it’s clear that TAA, Gomez, VVD and Robbo is the only way forward.
      Saying all of that, we are crying out for a proper center attacking midfielder. No disrespect to Shaqiri. He has done brilliantly but we need a proper #10 in January.
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      Reply #591: Dec 05, 2018 10:51:51 pm
      When you talk about second stringers does that include james Milner who once again comes in and does a great job for the team and scores a goal. We need all of these lads to put a shift in because we don't want to get to March or April with the players on their knees with fatigue.
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      Reply #592: Dec 05, 2018 10:56:20 pm
      I love van Dijk so much. If he wanted he probably could be our best DM as well, he's that good. So many good passes today and now played his part in the goal. Incredible player

      he is also a visionary to play in Origi of the cross bar was just incredibly talented.
      Seriously he had Richarlson in his pockets on Sunday and we should cut his wages because he never breaks sweat. People used to say Kenny wasn't quick but he was quicker than anyone in his reading of the game that's like Virgil superb reader of the game and a joy to watch
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #593: Dec 05, 2018 10:57:53 pm
      What the f**k was wrong with Douche tonight after the game was he having a pop at Jürgen?
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #594: Dec 05, 2018 10:59:49 pm
      That was not a poor performance. You can't always turn up away from home and batter the home team.

      That game showed we have the bottle and the grit to hang in there.

      I remember games away from home going 3 up at halftime and end up hanging on for a draw. This is the correct way to manage a game with 90 mins of pressure that will eventually make most teams crack
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      Reply #595: Dec 05, 2018 11:07:32 pm
      Bugger! Beat me to it for my edit 🙄

      There were only another 16 teams to guess
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #596: Dec 05, 2018 11:23:39 pm
      I love van Dijk so much. If he wanted he probably could be our best DM as well, he's that good. So many good passes today and now played his part in the goal. Incredible player

      Remember when I said we could get better for less?

      Let’s all laugh at me. He’s priceless and perfect for us.
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #597: Dec 05, 2018 11:25:02 pm
      Vvd he need rest too he play lot football with Gomez injury were bit light weight centre backs,don't trust lovren and matip together
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #598: Dec 06, 2018 12:08:25 am
      Brilliant result. Did we see the arrival of Naby Keita tonight?
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      Re: Burnley 1-3 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #599: Dec 06, 2018 12:15:05 am
      The sooner sh*t like this is relegated the better for the league.

      And to think some of the dross in the press were mentioning Dyche as a England Manager....... sh*t they appointed Allerdyce didn’t they!

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