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      Reply #50: Dec 23, 2018 04:21:23 pm
      people have ID when they work or claim benefits, otherwise applications would be rejected. Do you think people go without income for years then suddenly turn up to vote labour? That's ridiculous.
      Income Support, Universal Credit, JSA, Employment all requires photo ID, so how are people without ID able to survive? Hunt Tigers and start a camp fire in the city centre?

      I don't have any photo ID at the moment.  To get back into the civil service i had to get someone in the civil service to write a testimonial stating they had known me for many years in order to get the job.
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      Re: December News Stories
      Reply #51: Dec 23, 2018 05:47:39 pm
      In the News tonight its official EVERTON ARE SHITE.
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      Reply #52: Dec 23, 2018 08:44:05 pm
      Does it also depend on which "sect" (for want of a better word) the person belongs to?
      For instance sunni, shia interpret things differently, and wahhabism interprets very strictly?

      Genuinely interested in this.

      Yes definitely. The issue with Islam that it has so many interpretations that even the core beliefs are interpreted in different ways, for example, some muslims believe only in the Koran and not the hadith so they follow a 3 times per day prayer instead of 5. Sufis, for example believe they can do the hajj (pilgrimage) anywhere in the world rather than in Mecca as hajj to them is being one with God.

      If you look at Wahhabism and Khomeinism you wouldn't see such a difference in beliefs but there are some differences in ideas of interpretation and sect they follow. Wahabism is just a form of very conservative sunni belief while Khomeinism is a form of very conservative shia belief (wahhabism wears niqab, khomeinism wears chador). The differences are more political to be honest that's why they don't get a long. Then you have different school of thoughts in Sunnis, for example hanbali, hanafi, etc... while Shias have Jaafari, ismaeli etc... they also differ in interpretations.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-45112792

      Dr Qanta Ahmed, a British-American Muslim doctor who lives in New York, does not wear a face veil and supports a ban on them.

      She said the number of women wearing them in the West is increasing in part because girls begin to wear them before they reach puberty and many were not given a choice.


      By contrast, in Iran the law requires women to wear modest "Islamic" clothing. In practice, this means women must wear a chador, a full-body cloak, or a headscarf and a manteau (overcoat) that covers their arms.

      There are posters in cities and towns comparing unveiled women to unwrapped candy and lollipops attracting unwanted attention from flies.

      Recently, some Iranian women have protested against this law by taking off their headscarf in public. One woman was jailed for two years in March for doing this.


      This is cultural and religion is it?



      This doesn't mean anything. Her opinion does not constitute as fact. The whole area is very and highly subjective and everyone has an opinion or interpretation. If you ever lived in any Middle Eastern country you would know there are a lot of cultural elements in women wearing the veil. Sure some are forced to wear it by their parents, which is wrong and some have chosen to wear it by their own choice. I also met a few women who stopped wearing it because they stopped believing in it.   


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      Re: December News Stories
      Reply #53: Dec 24, 2018 10:37:08 am
      Been watching some of the horrific scenes of destruction from the tsunami in Indonesia on the news.
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      Reply #54: Dec 24, 2018 01:17:10 pm
      Yes definitely. The issue with Islam that it has so many interpretations that even the core beliefs are interpreted in different ways, for example, some muslims believe only in the Koran and not the hadith so they follow a 3 times per day prayer instead of 5. Sufis, for example believe they can do the hajj (pilgrimage) anywhere in the world rather than in Mecca as hajj to them is being one with God.

      If you look at Wahhabism and Khomeinism you wouldn't see such a difference in beliefs but there are some differences in ideas of interpretation and sect they follow. Wahabism is just a form of very conservative sunni belief while Khomeinism is a form of very conservative shia belief (wahhabism wears niqab, khomeinism wears chador). The differences are more political to be honest that's why they don't get a long. Then you have different school of thoughts in Sunnis, for example hanbali, hanafi, etc... while Shias have Jaafari, ismaeli etc... they also differ in interpretations.


      Very interesting.
      I'm assuming this is why Saudi is so keen on attacking Iran. (one reason anyway)
      I've long thought that Saudi ambition is to be the regional "superpower" and create a Sunni (their version) hegemony across the mideast, in as much as that is possible of course.
      This would be in keeping with the "trade blocs" we see forming across the globe, where the next step will be regional political integration with the eventual goal of a single world government. This is a long way into the future of course, but there's no doubt it will happen, it's just a question of when.
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      Reply #55: Dec 24, 2018 01:17:43 pm
      Been watching some of the horrific scenes of destruction from the tsunami in Indonesia on the news.

      Terrible scenes HR.
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      Reply #56: Dec 24, 2018 02:37:40 pm
      Been watching some of the horrific scenes of destruction from the tsunami in Indonesia on the news.

      Seems around Xmas time they always get hit by an Earthquake or Tsunami..
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      Reply #57: Dec 24, 2018 03:09:51 pm
      Seems around Xmas time they always get hit by an Earthquake or Tsunami..

      They reckon this has been caused by a landslide on Krakatoa
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      Reply #58: Dec 24, 2018 03:17:49 pm
      Very interesting.
      I'm assuming this is why Saudi is so keen on attacking Iran. (one reason anyway)
      I've long thought that Saudi ambition is to be the regional "superpower" and create a Sunni (their version) hegemony across the mideast, in as much as that is possible of course.
      This would be in keeping with the "trade blocs" we see forming across the globe, where the next step will be regional political integration with the eventual goal of a single world government. This is a long way into the future of course, but there's no doubt it will happen, it's just a question of when.

      It's the same way with Iran, trying to create their own Shia (their version of course) hegemony across the ME. Hence why they backed Bahraini shia rebels, Houthis in Yemen and Hizballah in Lebanon, although Iran are doing it more quietly than the Saudis. The Saudis are also getting closer and closer with Israel because they share a common enemy and I wouldn't be surprised if peace talks have already begun between the two.
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      Reply #59: Dec 24, 2018 03:20:09 pm
      They reckon this has been caused by a landslide on Krakatoa

      horrible scenes mate, read somewhere the waves were as high as 3 meters
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      Reply #60: Dec 24, 2018 06:00:38 pm
      It's the same way with Iran, trying to create their own Shia (their version of course) hegemony across the ME. Hence why they backed Bahraini shia rebels, Houthis in Yemen and Hizballah in Lebanon, although Iran are doing it more quietly than the Saudis. The Saudis are also getting closer and closer with Israel because they share a common enemy and I wouldn't be surprised if peace talks have already begun between the two.

      Between Saudi and Israel?
      I'd be very surprised if they haven't already, given the USA'a involvement and backing for both countries.
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      Reply #61: Dec 25, 2018 06:36:04 pm
      horrible scenes mate, read somewhere the waves were as high as 3 meters

      That scene of the band playing just as it hit was very unsettling, even more so when the lead singer made an emotional post saying his wife and the rest of the band are all missing.
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      Re: December News Stories
      Reply #62: Dec 28, 2018 10:13:49 am
      They reckon this has been caused by a landslide on Krakatoa

      Said on the news something about a volcano under the ocean had kicked off causing huge waves.
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      Re: December News Stories
      Reply #63: Dec 29, 2018 10:31:54 pm
      Decembers biggest New Story Liverpool top the league table by 9 points
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      Re: December News Stories
      Reply #64: Jan 03, 2019 04:08:11 pm
      Vegan sausage roll is here & folks loosing their sh*t 😂

      https://twitter.com/greggsofficial/status/1080403000722710528?s=21
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      Reply #65: Jan 03, 2019 05:15:45 pm
      Ha ha,f**king twitter is such a shitshow,no idea why people do it.But Greggs played it well.Those do look good mind,wish we could get em over here.
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      Re: December News Stories
      Reply #66: Jan 03, 2019 06:08:41 pm

      So, people who call other people "snowflakes", are now losing their minds over a f**king sausage roll and acting like snowflakes.

      Nice.
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      Reply #67: Jan 03, 2019 11:03:57 pm
      So, people who call other people "snowflakes", are now losing their minds over a f**king sausage roll and acting like snowflakes.

      Nice.

      If, by people, you mean morally bankrupt, sociopathic cu*ts like Piers Morgan then......yup.

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