Liverpool 4-0 Newcastle United: In game and Post Match discussion

People picking up on FA actually reviewing it as a factor of consideration in this don't understand that FA review every single penalty in every match regardless! FA didn't do a press release about Salah's penalty, they were contacted by the press. They must have told the press that because the Newcastle players arm touched Salah before he went down, the penalty was the right call so there is no way to suspend Salah. In simplistic form.

Was the penalty decision correct? YES.
Does the FA suspend players who dive after being fouled? Seems not.
Does the FA suspend players who dive with no contact? I'd assume so.

Luck didn't come into this, rules did. Was Salah right to go down? That's personal opinion, but the gutter press have made a meal of it and now referees could treat Salah differently thanks to the media storm. That's what the presses goal was right? The fact that we are even discussing it shows the press won.

Watched in a pub today so just finished watching the replay and being able to notice a bit more. Jordan Henderson was very positive and drove the midfield. Gini has been great all season but  maybe a bit off the boil just now. I wouldn't be shocked to see Fab, Keita and Henderson as the midfield three vs. Arsenal.

On Shaqiri's goal, we strung together 25 passes with the last being TAA's ball to Shaq for the tap in. That's if you don't count two failed attempts to scramble the ball clear. I think all 10 outfield players touched the ball in that sequence. Brilliant team goal. Glad to see Fabinho scored his first goal for us as well as he has really come on leaps and bounds the past few appearances. Great purchase there.   






Also, whoever is knocking Sadio Mane's performance today...are you serious? He was so active throughout. Always giving Newcastle something to think about in the back - a big part of our success in attack despite not scoring himself. Bobby also very involved in the press, winning possession and kick-starting the attack.

Team is looking great, but six points can be gone (obviously) in two bad results. Stay steady everyone, and enjoy every moment.

   

Which pub were you in, The Union Jack in Indy by chance?

In the 90’s a player couldn’t get banned now they can - we gor very lucky tbe FA are useless - next time Mo or another player could miss key games because of their stupid actions

But this wasn't a stupid action. The ref saw no dive, the FA saw no dive, and the opposition didn't protest. This was a foul, and Mo had no case to answer.

I really don't see the issue here. One of our players was dragged back in the box. It's a stonewall penalty. There is no law in the game saying that a foul must be reckless, in order to be punished.

But this wasn't a stupid action. The ref saw no dive, the FA saw no dive, and the opposition didn't protest. This was a foul, and Mo had no case to answer.

I really don't see the issue here. One of our players was dragged back in the box. It's a stonewall penalty. There is no law in the game saying that a foul must be reckless, in order to be punished.

It was far from a stonewall penalty- people wouldn’t be questioning it if it was a stonewall penalty. And Salah did dive unless you honestly think the touch from Dummett was enough for Salah to arch his back and go to his knees.

And there is no law that says every touch is a foul - the touch from Dummett wasn’t enough to impede the player - Salah dives and made rbe ref think the touch was.

It was far from a stonewall penalty- people wouldn’t be questioning it if it was a stonewall penalty. And Salah did dive unless you honestly think the touch from Dummett was enough for Salah to arch his back and go to his knees.

And there is no law that says every touch is a foul - the touch from Dummett wasn’t enough to impede the player - Salah dives and made rbe ref think the touch was.

Lallana not everyone is like you and calls a spade a spade. No matter how much you try, some just won't take those rose tinted glasses off. You'll learn that some people can't be educated. 

It was far from a stonewall penalty- people wouldn’t be questioning it if it was a stonewall penalty. And Salah did dive unless you honestly think the touch from Dummett was enough for Salah to arch his back and go to his knees.

And there is no law that says every touch is a foul - the touch from Dummett wasn’t enough to impede the player - Salah dives and made rbe ref think the touch was.

They shouldn't be questioning it, that's the point. It's not a touch, it's a clear shirt pull. Once that happens, the referee has a job to do, and he did it. Anywhere else on the pitch, it's a free kick, and anywhere in the box, it's a penalty. It would be only be considered a dive if there was no contact at all.

This will be a regular occurrence when VAR comes in. It may happen in the cup next week, and it will certainly happen at some point during the European Cup later this season, be it involving us, or someone else.

No matter how much you try, some just won't take those rose tinted glasses off.

When you come onto a Liverpool fan website, you expect Liverpool fans to be biased. But even with the glasses off, Salah still has done nothing wrong, and has not been punished for a non existent offence.

Soft pen or not, foul or not it was given and can’t be worse than the one Harry Kane bought for himself against us.

You put your hands on another player in the box then you are giving the referee a decision to make. You should not be surprised if that decision is a penalty

They shouldn't be questioning it, that's the point. It's not a touch, it's a clear shirt pull. Once that happens, the referee has a job to do, and he did it. Anywhere else on the pitch, it's a free kick, and anywhere in the box, it's a penalty. It would be only be considered a dive if there was no contact at all.

This will be a regular occurrence when VAR comes in. It may happen in the cup next week, and it will certainly happen at some point during the European Cup later this season, be it involving us, or someone else.

When you come onto a Liverpool fan website, you expect Liverpool fans to be biased. But even with the glasses off, Salah still has done nothing wrong, and has not been punished for a non existent offence.

Sorry but it’s a dive if the touch is not significant for the player to go down - it wasn’t a clear pull back in any shape or form

Players do dive even with the slightest touch because they are trying to earn a penalty.

Salah went onto his knees on his own accord - to suggest otherwise is clueless

Are you a Manc fan ?

 

He's simply not wearing rose tinted glasses 

He's simply not wearing rose tinted glasses 

Always thought you were a City fan Keith 

Lallana not everyone is like you and calls a spade a spade. No matter how much you try, some just won't take those rose tinted glasses off. You'll learn that some people can't be educated. 

You might think he's calling a spade a spade. Shame you're both actually looking at a trowel.

You might think he's calling a spade a spade. Shame you're both actually looking at a trowel.

 

Always thought you were a City fan Keith 

That's nearly a insult mate 

Lallana not everyone is like you and calls a spade a spade. No matter how much you try, some just won't take those rose tinted glasses off. You'll learn that some people can't be educated. 

Players like Salah rely on balance. They go at defences sh*t or bust. High speed controlling a football. He is not looking to lay it off, he's taking them all on. He is very finely balanced, swerving trying to change direction or throw a dummy, drop a shoulder, feint this way or that and any contact could easily take him down. Salah is no different from any other forward, if his run is impeded he can be stopped.

Salah wouldn't be the goal scorer he is if he went down for no reason. Not claiming he's a saint but the number of sh*t or bust glory dashes Salah makes, there is bound to be the odd disputed decision.

So there yer go..you have been educated.

No charge.

That's nearly a insult mate 

Yeah, Nearly 

Players like Salah rely on balance. They go at defences sh*t or bust. High speed controlling a football. He is not looking to lay it off, he's taking them all on. He is very finely balanced, swerving trying to change direction or throw a dummy, drop a shoulder, feint this way or that and any contact could easily take him down. Salah is no different from any other forward, if his run is impeded he can be stopped.

Salah wouldn't be the goal scorer he is if he went down for no reason. Not claiming he's a saint but the number of sh*t or bust glory dashes Salah makes, there is bound to be the odd disputed decision.

So there yer go..you have been educated.

No charge.

That isn't the dispute.  Basically the argument was its a soft penalty and he made a meal of it, which he did. Can see why penalty was given which is not the issue here.

Sorry but it’s a dive if the touch is not significant for the player to go down - it wasn’t a clear pull back in any shape or form

Players do dive even with the slightest touch because they are trying to earn a penalty.

The touch does not have to be  "significant", it only has to be a foul. It is a clear pull back and because it is, Salah can go down if he wants. If he does go down, people say he dived. If he doesn't, they say he's too honest.

The defender knew exactly what he was doing, and hoped he would get away with it. Like I said before, this is similar to the cup penalty last season. The defender didn't get away with it then, and he hasn't got away with it now.

That isn't the dispute.  Basically the argument was its a soft penalty and he made a meal of it, which he did. Can see why penalty was given which is not the issue here.

Soft?

Did Dummet complain to the ref...No..?

Penalty full stop.

Why you need to say he made a meal of it is beyond me, I think some have the hump because Mo won’t miss the Arsenal & City game as desired by the haters..

Why you need to say he made a meal of it is beyond me, I think some have the hump because Mo won’t miss the Arsenal & City game as desired by the haters..

The facts are he did make a meal of it  Shabs. Surprised some think otherwise. As for me, I'm certainly no hater, stated last year he was my favourite player to watch in a Liverpool shirt. Nothing has changed from my side. 

The facts are he did make a meal of it  Shabs. Surprised some think otherwise. As for me, I'm certainly no hater, stated last year he was my favourite player to watch in a Liverpool shirt. Nothing has changed from my side. 

If your going to pull on a players arm, jersey in the box without attempting to tackle the ball you have no right to complain if the player decides to go down..Mo was pulled back.. Slow motion does no favours..

If your going to pull on a players arm, jersey in the box without attempting to tackle the ball you have no right to complain if the player decides to go down..Mo was pulled back.. Slow motion does no favours..

Chances are I would of done the same thing Shabs. No complaints from me about the penalty. However, I maintain it was soft and a dive. Probably told my team mates in dressing room too. 

That isn't the dispute.  Basically the argument was its a soft penalty and he made a meal of it, which he did. Can see why penalty was given which is not the issue here.

But my point in very pertinent to the decision. It may have been a generous decision but the fact that as I stated, Salah was going at them at full pelt and any contact, no matter how slight, could and did cause him to lose balance.The Ref was in a good position to give the decision. You are claiming Salah cheated and I'm not claiming he's above such conduct but on this occasion I think he lost balance due to the slight contact.

Was the penalty decision correct? YES.
Does the FA suspend players who dive after being fouled? Seems not.
Does the FA suspend players who dive with no contact? I'd assume so.

Luck didn't come into this, rules did. Was Salah right to go down? That's personal opinion, but the gutter press have made a meal of it and now referees could treat Salah differently thanks to the media storm. That's what the presses goal was right? The fact that we are even discussing it shows the press won.

Let's throw a piece of plank in front of that plank of a fellow running at full speed and sees whether he trips badly or he doesn't. Someone has paid these faggots to write articles to distrupt our progress. There are some hidden hands there, The club must get tough and start legal proceedings to put them in place and halt their agenda and unmask those behind it and lets us have some piece of mind while we continue to march forward in our quest. Don't let these paid idiots run amok to distrupt us.

The facts are he did make a meal of it  Shabs. Surprised some think otherwise. As for me, I'm certainly no hater, stated last year he was my favourite player to watch in a Liverpool shirt. Nothing has changed from my side.

Had a prolonged look at it and I will concede Salah exaggerated his fall. There was contact however which caused him to lose control. If the lad had not pulled at Salah, within a few more yards Salah could've lashed in a left foot shot.

The ref may have judged that, even if Salah did indeed exaggerate, he was still fouled.