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      Liverpool 4-0 Newcastle United: In game and Post Match discussion

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      Keith Singleton
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      Re: Liverpool 4-0 Newcastle United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #368: Dec 27, 2018 03:09:07 pm
      A lot of fans don't understand diving against Newcastle is using up a resource. Now referees will be aware Salah makes a meal of things, if we need a goal against Arsenal, it's no good Salah diving... he'll get booked and laughed at. If he didn't give against Newcastle we'd probably still have won but had a dive to use against Arsenal. There's no way the Newcastle players contact affected Salah enough to go down like that. I'm not totally against stuff like that, but rather him use a dive when we really need it not against a lower team when we already winning.

      Yeah your post makes sence. He's not known as a diver anyway, to my knowledge he's only done it twice but might be wrong. On the bright side the penalty did give me a perfect score  ;D
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      Re: Liverpool 4-0 Newcastle United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #369: Dec 27, 2018 03:09:23 pm
      Nice to see honesty with  members. All too often fans wear those blinkers and just coz their was the slightest of contact it's a penalty  :lmao: Think many forget it's a contact sport LondonRed but fair play you called it spot on.
      Keith, I think you miss understood a lot of our fans. It's a penalty. On a binary system where 0 means no penalty and 1 means penalty, it's a 1. Salah dived to ensure he got the penalty he deserved, but the press which seems to be Manchester mouthpieces are running with stories how he's lucky to not be banned. The media is bias, why don't they print nothing of the sort and just mention how referees have said it's the correct call? If referees weren't so inept in the past would Salah even need to do that? Rather him stayed on his feet and gone down against Arsenal, since most fans knew Salah would be a scapegoat of a media smear campaign today. It was both a deserved penalty and a dive. You seem to think because some of our fans admit he dived then the ref was conned, it's not true. It can be both a dive and a foul.
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      Reply #370: Dec 27, 2018 03:13:45 pm
        The media is bias, why don't they print nothing of the sort and just mention how referees have said it's the correct call?.

      If it makes a story media will always be biased, thats what the cu*ts get paid for.  :f_steam:
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      Re: Liverpool 4-0 Newcastle United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #371: Dec 27, 2018 03:14:05 pm
      Can't believe they even considered banning him for 2 games..  :f_doh:

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      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6532301/Liverpool-star-Mohamed-Salah-cleared-diving-against-Newcastle.html
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      Reply #372: Dec 27, 2018 03:16:10 pm
      Yeah your post makes sence. He's not known as a diver anyway, to my knowledge he's only done it twice but might be wrong. On the bright side the penalty did give me a perfect score  ;D
      yeah, no doubt he'll get shoved in the box v city, that's when he should have gone down. Now referees will treat him like Neymar for the next month.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-0 Newcastle United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #373: Dec 27, 2018 03:20:15 pm
      FA review all penalties. That's just Manchester press smearing Salah's name before big games. If Trump and Brexit can be influenced by media, why not the PL champions? Then rivals have the nerve to say we're bias?
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      Reply #374: Dec 27, 2018 03:20:28 pm
      yeah, no doubt he'll get shoved in the box v city, that's when he should have gone down. Now referees will treat him like Neymar for the next month.

      Ups!!! I said sence instead of sense. Am I only a warning rib?  :D
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      Re: Liverpool 4-0 Newcastle United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #375: Dec 27, 2018 03:20:51 pm
      Our old mate Keith hackett in the telegraph talking about the possibility of a 2 match man for salah. Same man who when son got a pen by diving trotted out there doesn't need to be contact for a foul line
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      Re: Liverpool 4-0 Newcastle United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #376: Dec 27, 2018 03:23:34 pm

      Well he did dive and that’s the punishment for retrospective action after so he is very lucky
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      Re: Liverpool 4-0 Newcastle United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #377: Dec 27, 2018 04:02:13 pm
      Well he did dive and that’s the punishment for retrospective action after so he is very lucky

      Was there contact, YES or NO, if Yes then its not a dive, It is however a very soft penalty, but considering the number of times he stays on his feet when fouled I think it evens itself out.
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      Reply #378: Dec 27, 2018 04:16:10 pm
      Was there contact, YES or NO, if Yes then its not a dive, It is however a very soft penalty, but considering the number of times he stays on his feet when fouled I think it evens itself out.

      It’s still a dive if someone goes down when touch is insufficient to take the player down - it’s a dive simple as that and he is very lucky

      If a player has gone down on his own accord then it’s a dive
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      Re: Liverpool 4-0 Newcastle United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #379: Dec 27, 2018 04:38:47 pm
      It’s still a dive if someone goes down when touch is insufficient to take the player down - it’s a dive simple as that and he is very lucky

      If a player has gone down on his own accord then it’s a dive

      I agree, if Suarez has done that with us, he would have be penalised but Salah is a flying the premiership flag with humbleness and respect.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-0 Newcastle United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #380: Dec 27, 2018 05:10:55 pm
      I think the Manc is corrupting this forum . It was a foul therefore a penalty end of story. If you pull a player back they don't have to go down its still a foul and a yellow card he could have a done a forward roll and stood on his head it was still a foul.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-0 Newcastle United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #381: Dec 27, 2018 05:31:39 pm
      I think the Manc is corrupting this forum . It was a foul therefore a penalty end of story. If you pull a player back they don't have to go down its still a foul and a yellow card he could have a done a forward roll and stood on his head it was still a foul.

      Sorry Walton but it wasn’t a foul and he certainly didn’t pull him back , it was the slightest smallest of touches on his arm and it’s not the first time Mo has dived as he was warned by Klopp to stop it
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      Re: Liverpool 4-0 Newcastle United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #382: Dec 27, 2018 05:38:25 pm
      Sorry Walton but it wasn’t a foul and he certainly didn’t pull him back , it was the slightest smallest of touches on his arm and it’s not the first time Mo has dived as he was warned by Klopp to stop it

      See I disagree on this occasion mate. It is a foul soon as he puts a hand on him and tries to pull him back.

      That’s not the same as holding your arm out a bit to help shield the ball, a shoulder charge or even sticking your arm out for leverage when jumping to head the ball. It’s an attempt to stop the player in possession progressing. There’s no other purpose and that is an offence.

      However - I don’t think he should have gone to ground the way he did. So - on this occasion - I’m going with Ribs in that it was a peno and a dive.......
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      Reply #383: Dec 27, 2018 05:43:38 pm
      See I disagree on this occasion mate. It is a foul soon as he puts a hand on him and tries to pull him back.

      That’s not the same as holding your arm out a bit to help shield the ball, a shoulder charge or even sticking your arm out for leverage when jumping to head the ball. It’s an attempt to stop the player in possession progressing. There’s no other purpose and that is an offence.

      However - I don’t think he should have gone to ground the way he did. So - on this occasion - I’m going with Ribs in that it was a peno and a dive.......

      If what Dummett did is a foul then god help the sport , it made no difference to Mo , he felt that slight touch made dived , we can’t have the sport where any slight touch is foul , he may have attempted to impede him but that’s still not a foul,

      If it was given against us we would be livid
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      Re: Liverpool 4-0 Newcastle United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #384: Dec 27, 2018 05:46:08 pm
      Really...? Really...?  :roll:
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      Re: Liverpool 4-0 Newcastle United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #385: Dec 27, 2018 05:47:15 pm
      If it was given against us we would be livid

      This is how I look at it, therefore, it wasn't a pen in my eyes.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-0 Newcastle United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #386: Dec 27, 2018 06:02:27 pm
      If what Dummett did is a foul then god help the sport , it made no difference to Mo , he felt that slight touch made dived , we can’t have the sport where any slight touch is foul , he may have attempted to impede him but that’s still not a foul,

      If it was given against us we would be livid

      I hear you and in general terms I agree with regard to the impact on Mo but as soon as he TRIES to pull him it’s a foul - if the referee sees it.

      The dive thereafter was a mistake and I hope (expect) Jürgen will have said something.
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      Reply #387: Dec 27, 2018 06:34:39 pm
      you must have F***ing hated so many of your players over the years then and the pricks are Liverpool supporters on a Liverpool Forum.

      Jesus wept if the mancs didn't get a decision for a dive or whatever didn't they surround the ref like a F***ing lynch mob?
      That's cheating as much as any dive.
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      Reply #388: Dec 27, 2018 06:56:21 pm
      If what Dummett did is a foul then god help the sport , it made no difference to Mo , he felt that slight touch made dived , we can’t have the sport where any slight touch is foul , he may have attempted to impede him but that’s still not a foul,

      If it was given against us we would be livid

      It was a foul all day long, contact such as that in the area results in a penalty.
      There was contact and the defender was fully aware of what the decision would be.

      Impeding an opponent in the penalty area will see a penalty awarded every time no matter how the decision is interpreted, the clue is in the description of that area of play i.e. PENALTY AREA.
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      Reply #389: Dec 27, 2018 07:02:01 pm
      It was a foul all day long, contact such as that in the area results in a penalty.
      There was contact and the defender was fully aware of what the decision would be.

      Impeding an opponent in the penalty area will see a penalty awarded every time no matter how the decision is interpreted, the clue is in the description of that area of play i.e. PENALTY AREA.

      Sorry but Salah wasn’t impeded - Dummet didn’t pull him back and the touch was minimal,Salah not for first time went down too easily - if that happens against us you would been screaming at the ref claiming dive etc

      If contact like that means a penalty in the area then every single corner will have one because every single CB touches a forward like that.

      It’s not a bad thing to say we got away with one
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      Re: Liverpool 4-0 Newcastle United: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #390: Dec 27, 2018 07:07:59 pm
      I hear you and in general terms I agree with regard to the impact on Mo but as soon as he TRIES to pull him it’s a foul - if the referee sees it.

      The dive thereafter was a mistake and I hope (expect) Jürgen will have said something.

      If the penalty was correct then every single corner will mean a penalty because you see far stronger touches

      the touch on Mo isn’t even to impede him

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