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      Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      Tayls
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1125: Jan 05, 2019 08:47:53 pm
      Disappointed to lose considering how the game was decided on such tight margins. In general we played ok, both teams had some good periods of possession and varying degrees of pressure. I thought we weathered the early storm exceptionally well, and then proceeded to create the best openings in a very tight 30/35 minutes. We don't score (still not sure how we didn't) and then Aguero does. Lovren's flat footed but you do have to give credit to Aguero, it was a very good touch and great strike.

      Second half it was clear we needed to change as the momentum was against us. Thought the 4-2-3-1 then worked fairly well and it was incredibly disappointing to concede an avoidable goal not long after scoring ourselves. Again though, very clinical from Sane.

      Didn't think there was much in it, and it's definitely not worthy of any hysteria. We've handed some momentum back to City in the title race and now it's up to us to bounce back starting at Wolves and then to Brighton.

      Really think the defeat could actually focus the team more, and looking at the league fixtures for the rest of January, away to Brighton and then Palace and Leicester at home, hopefully we can pick up nine of out nine and set a relentless pace for City to try and follow.
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1126: Jan 05, 2019 11:26:37 pm
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t5kX-W-BG38

      For gods sake.

      'We finished fourth and we got to the European cup final with Hendo in the team that proves he is good enough'

      Yes. But we didn't win anything did we? So what does it matter? As soon as they came up against top opposition they crumbled and Henderson was bloody f**king awful in that final. Probably the worst Liverpool captain performance in a final.

      The team who got to Kiev weren't good enough to win it and they weren't good enough to win the league.  We've since made improvements and some upgrades and we are very nearly there.

      But if Lovren gets more game time then know this, he WILL cost us more points and those points may prove vital come May.

      We also look a million times better WITHOUT Henderson in the team. Just look at bloody Thursday when fabinho came on and went in his position. The difference was there to see.

      Even his fan boys are starting to say 'I prefer Fabinho in the team BUT hendo is still brilliant' just so they don't contradict themselves or admit they were wrong about him. We are a better team without him and there's just no denying that. fabinho is better in the 6 and we have much stronger options in the 8.

      We will never know will we but I firmly believe we would have taken something at city without those two in our line up. And that's why I highlight it because the margins are very fine and I have a feeling that only a point or two will be the difference come the end of the season.

      I don't often say jurgen got it wrong but on Thursday he did. The less game time those two liabilities get the better for us and the chances of winning silverware increase tremendously.

      I agree with, it seems like the majority of peeps on here, but the rub is JK trusts them to do job. We need to match, or better, what our rival team does.  If we have a bad run, which I know we can, lets worry about it then, until then, lets just get on with it and enjoy the ride.  One unlucky result guys, we should've got something out of it.  We go again
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1127: Jan 05, 2019 11:53:25 pm
      And yet here we are, challenging for a PL title, and in the last 16 of the CL.

      How did that happen mate when “Barry from t’interweb” says Jürgen got it wrong 🤷‍♂️ and his selection would be better  :lmao:
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1128: Jan 06, 2019 12:34:43 am
      I wasn't aware he has. Show me his quotes please so I can have a read of jurgen saying he sees fabinho and Henderson starting together in his midfield. I find that very interesting and rather unusual too.

      Yes. That's exactly what I said. Milner came off because he was injured. If he was fully fit then I believe he would have stayed on the pitch as the 8 and the Fabinho would have come on for Henderson as a straight swap.  Because Milner was injured, it meant playing Henderson further up the pitch so we could bring on attacking options - shaqiri and Sturridge. 

      The game changed because of Fabinho. He was excellent when he came on and I keep saying it, but the difference was there to see. I have, however, stated a few times in this thread that henderson improved and got more involved. But make no mistake, it was Fabinho was starting to pull the strings, nobody else. Henderson just went from a 2/10 to a 5/10 that's all.

      Keita is still finding his feet but he has shown glimpses already that he is better than anybody else we have in that position. He should be playing more but like hardcore says above me, klopp knows when it's right to introduce his players to the team so we will have to patiently wait.

      The armband is clearly relevant but I can't even be arsed explaining why if you're going to rubbish such an honour of being Liverpool captain off.

      Oh he can play a role alright. There are certain moments in certain games we need, what people refer to as 'fresh legs'. Henderson can do that perfectly fine. Help us see out games. Help keep our other players fit and fresh.

      But he shouldn't be starting any more. Certainly not in the big games against opposition who are miles better than him. Again, like hardcore above me, I think he will start less as time goes on and that sooner or later we will see start to see more of what I believe jurgens 11 to be.

      I'll leave that there anyway because I'm getting the feeling you're just quoting me for the sake of it now. There's nothing either of us can add to what we've already said. Going round in circles lad, turn it in.


      Do you want me to dig up Jurgens quotes where he says Lovren is one of the best centre backs around and that he doesn’t recall a mistake his made since the Spurs game in October 2017. Or will that not suit your agenda?
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1129: Jan 06, 2019 09:45:37 am
      I want to know why so many people scored points in the prediction league after the City game were people going for a city win come on own up
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1130: Jan 06, 2019 10:58:15 am
      Wow.  All those words.

      All you really needed to say was

      “I know nothing about football.”

      You obviously don’t read his posts over the past few seasons then. He goes to games regularly and I find what he says usually spot on.

      Fabinho came on and looked superb so should have started. Lovren was awful but we had no one else anyway.

      It was such a tight game and I’m still so upset we couldn’t hold on.

      End of the day it’s City away from home and it’s never going to be easy - just felt like we deserved something from that game.

      Let’s see what happens over the next few weeks becuase I believe that will tell us if we have the right response
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1131: Jan 06, 2019 11:57:55 am
      You are a troll - you don’t actually offer an opinion of note , you post stuff that you know someone will react too. At first I thought you have some sort of ADHD or something but then it just looked on purpose. Good trolls aren’t too obvious- you are clear as day , you can’t even do that right.

      Just because you don't agree with his opinion does not mean its not an opinion. If anything you are the one acting like a troll, certainly a bully!
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1132: Jan 06, 2019 12:07:27 pm
      And yet here we are, challenging for a PL title, and in the last 16 of the CL.

      Yes, because we mostly don't play a midfield of Henderson, Milner and Gini, if we did then no way would we be where we are. I know Jürgen chose the safe option here but I hope he reflects that it was to safe, that midfield can only work against a team which has a fairly static midfield and attack, against a team liek Citeh it can work to an extent but you leave yourself very vulnerable as well, as we saw.

      I also agree with the sentiment that it was just one game, with a bit more luck we could have won and we march on, I'm a bit concerned by this fringe payer sell off though, we are now down to just one additional senior forward, in Sturridge, and he's an injury waiting to happen, I'm getting worried.
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1133: Jan 06, 2019 12:40:40 pm
      I'd like to see a more technical attack minded midfield setup when we face them next. 


      I'd like to see a neutral, unaffected official refereeing the game instead of a manc who actually supports Citeh.


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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1134: Jan 06, 2019 12:59:55 pm
      I'd like to see a neutral, unaffected official refereeing the game instead of a manc who actually supports Citeh.

      Yeah strange one that. Should've been Michael Oliver for this game, and Anthony Taylor for the Arsenal one.
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1135: Jan 06, 2019 05:30:08 pm
      I look at it like this.

      They played against us like we play every game. 

      High press, cause the midfield to turn over the ball. 

      We just didn’t have an answer to being given a dose of our own medicine.

      It’s not the end of the world.  I just believe in this team.

      One thing I really noticed was before a set piece Henderson directing Virgil where the line should be.

      Virgil was arguing with him and ended up listening to Hendo.

      The high line led to an offside.  This shows me that Hendo is the coach on the field.

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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1136: Jan 06, 2019 08:56:20 pm
      We probably didn't do enough to win the game, but we were unlucky to not get a point. Thankfully, we had enough of an advantage in the table beforehand to absorb a result like this. We would have taken this advantage just last month, let alone the start of the season, and we can restore the 7 points gap we had, by winning at Brighton.

      It's important now that we go to Wolves, put out a strong side to get the job done, and ensure this result is a footnote at the end of the season, rather than the beginning of the form everyone has been warning us about. So get back to winning ways asap, starting on Monday.
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1137: Jan 08, 2019 03:36:55 am
      Wow.  All those words.

      All you really needed to say was

      “I know nothing about football.”

      Well I'm 31. Been going to the match since I was 5 years old. First game was Fulham at home in 93. We won 5-0 and god scored all five. Fell in love with Liverpool, anfield and god there and then.
       
      Joined my first team when I was 7. Played at a decent and fairly high level all through my life. And now I'm coaching football.

      So I think I know a little bit about the sport yeah. It's been a big part of my life. Probably more than it ever has in yours to be honest. I've probably watched more football matches than you've had hot dinners whether that's amature, semi pro, pro or just some weird Chinese u18 v India u18 game I've found on a stream that id rather watch when my mrs has X factor on  xxxxx:action-smiley-065:



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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1138: Jan 08, 2019 03:37:27 am
      should qualify for post of the month nearly split my coffee

      Not surprised you commented, you absolute bell
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1139: Jan 09, 2019 08:22:59 am
      So now there's a debate about the possibility that Kane was in fact Offside despite the technology used by VAR..

      Now can we agree that the ball did in fact cross the line?  :f_tongueincheek:

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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1140: Jan 09, 2019 05:16:36 pm
      Can someone please put up ageruos goal . A video . He first throws himself yo the ground . Next the ref signals at him to stay down then just before the cross come in tells him to get up .  It's fkin blatant cheating
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1141: Jan 09, 2019 05:38:46 pm
      Can someone please put up ageruos goal . A video . He first throws himself yo the ground . Next the ref signals at him to stay down then just before the cross come in tells him to get up .  It's fkin blatant cheating

      Actually the ref told him to get up - time to move on
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1142: Jan 09, 2019 05:43:49 pm
      Still cheating bas**rds
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1143: Jan 09, 2019 05:45:37 pm
      Can someone please put up ageruos goal . A video . He first throws himself yo the ground . Next the ref signals at him to stay down then just before the cross come in tells him to get up .  It's fkin blatant cheating

      isn't it ungentlemanly conduct or some ancient FA Law.
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1144: Jan 09, 2019 05:46:51 pm
      isn't it ungentlemanly conduct or some ancient FA Law.

      Watch it and tell me am wrong
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1145: Jan 09, 2019 06:25:57 pm
      I hope and pray for the Brighton topic to bury this thread every day.
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1146: Jan 09, 2019 08:38:19 pm
      Quote from HamannsTheMan
      klopp knows when it's right to introduce his players to the team so we will have to patiently wait.

      Oh he can play a role alright. There are certain moments in certain games we need, what people refer to as 'fresh legs'. Henderson can do that perfectly fine. Help us see out games. Help keep our other players fit and fresh.

      But he shouldn't be starting any more. Certainly not in the big games against opposition who are miles better than him. Again, like hardcore above me, I think he will start less as time goes on.

      It looks like you'll be waiting a fair amount of time though, because Hendo-Gini-Milner is the default midfield Jürgen turns to, for the more difficult games. Fabinho mostly plays when he has time to create, and Keita usually plays when he has the space to show off his nutmeg skills, e g. Bournemouth etc. For games where we have to defend for a fair amount of time, such as City (a), he and Fab won't be anywhere near the starting XI. Ditto the European trips. Jürgen likes to take his time introducing players and there's merit in that, but Robbo only got in the side on a regular basis because Moreno came off injured against Spartak Moscow. Before then Robbo was a bit part player while Moreno was smashing plates on a weekly basis.

      Are there upgrades on Hendo and Lovren? Yes of course, but I don't know where exactly we will find them. After Brexit, freedom of movement ends, so signing players from abroad will be that bit more difficult and restrictive. That leaves us with having to sign players from clubs in our own league. The top clubs won't sell players to us, so that leaves us with more Southampton level players at inflated prices, who may not be the next Mane's and VVD's. And when they don't turn out to be like them, people will be here asking "why did we even sign him? He's a poor man's Hendo".

      Lovren played because we had to play him, so there is little point slaughtering him after every goal that goes in. He's a decent back up option, unfortunately he has the tendency to nod off at a time we can least afford it, but that's nothing new. He's now out for the foreseeable future, so you can forget about his ability to keep the opposition out, for a while.
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1147: Jan 14, 2019 08:24:18 pm
      Kompany gets a yellow, Boly gets a red
      Complete BS from refs
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      Re: Manchester City 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #1148: Jan 14, 2019 08:55:30 pm
      More cheating refeering. Against Wolves diving kunt sterling pulled defender back raced pass him, stretched his leg to hit wolve defender's leg and DIVED to the ground. Penalty. I hope the idiotic papers write something about it.

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