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      Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #930: Jan 08, 2019 02:31:49 pm
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #931: Jan 08, 2019 03:35:41 pm
      Seeing the same posts from the same people who don't actually have any input or discuss football, their purpose is to come on here and attack anybody who says something they might not like or agree with.

      Ok, so you can be happy that we played a sh*t side, and you can be happy that we're no longer in the cup. That's something I don't agree with but I won't go out and attack all of you.

      What I will ask though is, if we don't actually win the league or we don't win the European cup, are you going to come back to this game in May and discuss it?

      And one last thing. If you don't care about the fa cup how about you don't watch the game then, get out the thread and stop talking about it and leave it to reds who actually do.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #932: Jan 08, 2019 03:38:54 pm
      Feck me!

      All this talk about trebles and we have not won a trophy for 6 years!  Lets win something before we start arguing about how many we want in a season.

      YNWA
       

      Some c**t talking sh*t about Liverpool fc mate,derails thread.in a post game shitshow.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #933: Jan 08, 2019 04:27:56 pm
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #934: Jan 08, 2019 04:31:04 pm
      Re what you said the cup should be re starting lineups ,mix of starters and bench and 1-3 youth. That's exactly what he did. Jones and camacho the youth. Fabinho, Milner Shaq and Lovren the starters - Origi, Sturridge, migs moreno,  and Keita the bench.

      Also, Gomez and Matip about to return to training.  Last night's game has no impact on anything but the cup and having fresher players for Brighton.

      EDIT: Ugh auto-correct origial/Origi

      Thank you Robby, so he did  ;D
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #935: Jan 08, 2019 04:43:51 pm
      Not arsed about last night's result, soon as seen team sheet knew it would end up in defeat. The injury to Lovren summed up why Klopp was right to make changes.
      Good goal from Origi, Shaqiri unlucky from that free kick.

      At least the defeat has probably seen the end of Moreno, Mignolet & Sturridge as Liverpool players.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #936: Jan 08, 2019 04:46:01 pm
      Why are you trying to downplay our result against Wolves in the league ? Wolves have beaten - Spurs , Chelsea and took points away from City and Utd - it was a very good result

      And then suggesting the manager threw the game ?! Why the heck do trolls like you infect ever match thread going , you were like this on previous forums from what I can remember.

      Prob never been to a game in your life and sit there watching streams - no use to the club

      LOL, another bully boy, which means a scared insecure little child. You started off quite well with some interesting questions then descended into personal abuse again, tut tut why can you not try to hold a civil conversation, you might find it less frustrating?

      Anyway I am not disrespecting our achievements, I am over the moon with our league position and still think we have a very good chance of winning it, but the game against Wolves was far from comfortable, even with our main starting XI, so why would Klopp think that that abomination of a team he put out on the pitch yesterday would have any chance at all? Was Klopp perhaps expecting Wolves to rotate as much as he did or did he genuinely not give a sh*t about winning the match, its a fair question which I'd like you to answer please?
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #937: Jan 08, 2019 04:48:18 pm
      Because no guarantee in football.
      In recent league game we won against them maybe not so comfortable but by that logic their full team last night should completely destroy us but no they didn't.
      I say the team I posted is more than capable of beating them not means it guarantee we beat them.
      No arrogance or complacency and I believe Klopp also not over confidence the team last night will win but he have no choice.

      Yes it was a weird performance from Wolves, I think they paid us way to much respect in that match, if they'd attacked like they are capable of then its could have been a slaughter, thank God they were as confused with the team selection as I was.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #938: Jan 08, 2019 04:57:18 pm
      just listened to Talk sport with Adrian Dumbass. He is as usual talking complete bollox comparing last night to Shankly's era when the FA Cup actually was a worthy Competition with its own European Competition but it means nothing now and as frustrating as last night was it also was a clear indication of why some players haven't been worth a place. the saddest thing is seeing Daniel just mope about the place without caring .
      Jürgen will be fully focused on Brighton now so we can let those who were so offended by the result continue with their intellectual debating.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #939: Jan 08, 2019 05:08:18 pm
      On reflection, I think it was a good result.  We lost 2-1 to a good premiership side.   The thing is reflecting on the team sheet,  what were we expecting with Mignolet, Moreno and Lovren in one team it was like de ja vous.   These are the key components of our disastrous defence.  They have only one thing on common they are consistent in making mistakes  and putting pressure on the entire defense of the team.

      For me I would have had 2 out of the 3 centre halves apart from VVD.   And then Milner at left back and a youngster at RB with Alison at the back.  But we were seriously short at centre back.  So the whole defence was all a make shift. 
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #940: Jan 08, 2019 05:42:42 pm
      just listened to Talk sport with Adrian Dumbass. He is as usual talking complete bollox comparing last night to Shankly's era when the FA Cup actually was a worthy Competition with its own European Competition but it means nothing now and as frustrating as last night was it also was a clear indication of why some players haven't been worth a place. the saddest thing is seeing Daniel just mope about the place without caring .
      Jürgen will be fully focused on Brighton now so we can let those who were so offended by the result continue with their intellectual debating.

      I was about to say finally, a post from you that's actually relevant and something worthy of being included and then you ruin it all with that last line.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #941: Jan 08, 2019 05:54:47 pm
      Maybe so but I’d rather take in the views of the regular match going fans than the arm chair brigade .
      That’s not aimed at you btw

      I think that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read to be honest.

      People live far away, people can't afford to travel and buy the ticket and book accommodation etc. I don't think that's the best idea to only take the views of people based purely on the location or financial luxuries they have. They don't know more about football because of that and their opinion doesn't deserve to be taken more seriously.

      I've sat beside morons watching us play, and I'm sure I'm not alone in that. I've got very knowledgable mates who've never seen us play, and I'm sure I'm not the only one on that too.

      Doesn't add up.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #942: Jan 08, 2019 05:56:51 pm
      I was about to say finally, a post from you that's actually relevant and something worthy of being included and then you ruin it all with that last line.
      Believe me not having your support for any of my posts is a blessing I don't think I could live with myself if I had any alignment with your views
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #943: Jan 08, 2019 06:09:52 pm
      I think that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read to be honest.

      People live far away, people can't afford to travel and buy the ticket and book accommodation etc. I don't think that's the best idea to only take the views of people based purely on the location or financial luxuries they have. They don't know more about football because of that and their opinion doesn't deserve to be taken more seriously.

      I've sat beside morons watching us play, and I'm sure I'm not alone in that. I've got very knowledgable mates who've never seen us play, and I'm sure I'm not the only one on that too.

      Doesn't add up.

      Yep.
      In my experience going to the match means little apart from being able to see more in a "bigger picture" kind of way.

      The times years ago when I managed to get Kop tickets, half the lads were more interested in acting the sh*te, because they were pissed before they went in, and then spent the match gobbing off bollocks to their mates.
      Annoying as f**k.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #944: Jan 08, 2019 06:34:34 pm
      It was sh*t - everyone hates losing.

      Everyone was disappointed in a number of players.

      Let’s try be positive for the Brighton game, because in terms of psychology / mental strength - this is a massive game.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #945: Jan 08, 2019 07:28:01 pm
      On reflection, I think it was a good result. 
      Sorry mate. could read no further than that
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #946: Jan 08, 2019 07:56:43 pm
      I hate seeing those half/half teams where you play a couple of fringe players mixed in with a bunch of youngsters. As soon as you looked at that team sheet you knew it was getting a replay at best (for me anyway).

      If we are going to take the approach of saying we need to prioritize the league over the cup then give the opportunity to someone other than e.g Moreno, who we all know will be out the door come summer and he probably does too. Having back line made up of 50 million quid central midfielder, two debutants and Alberto Moreno is an absolute joke.

      I desperately want to see us win something and now we have put more pressure on winning the league.

      Saying that? The FA Cup is basically on a par with the league cup these days so I understand the logic, but it is disappointing.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #947: Jan 08, 2019 08:20:29 pm
      As disappointing last night was, i dont think its the kick in the bawbag as some are making out, now, before i say anymore I'm going to be hypocritical,  cos in the pre-match thrread i said i wanted us to go all out to win it,  and therefore field a side stronger than we did,....but i can fully appreciate and understand why we didn't...
      We've just come through the most mental part of the season, from the start of December to last night, how many games have we played?
      I'm not entirely sure but i know we have played  4 full on 90+ minutes in the last 12 days,
      Incredible really, now what would you say was our priority this season?
      Carabau cup perhaps?
      FA cup, might have been!
      Champions league spot ?
      WINNING THE FUCKIN LEAGUE !!
      Winning the Champions league?

      My answer is in capitals...

      Last night's side, for the most part, HADN'T played together as a unit too often, some not at all, some, well one or two, COULDN'T BE FUCKIN ARSED !!

      One or two, maybe three, are not fit to wear our shirt, and imo, never should ever again, and one or two, no, make it three of our kids were brilliant,  when you consider who they shared the pitch with, and would no doubt look to for guidance, that wasn't there, Milner apart,

      Hate saying this,but I'm glad we're out, we don't have to worry about who we got next round, we can possibly have a longer recovery period, and that will be a huge benefit come the latter weeks of the season,

      So, f**k the FA cup, the League cup, they have almost become irrelevant for us atm, a inconvenience we could do without,  and this is how Jürgen sees it too i believe,  especially after a gruelling Xmas period and the amount of games we are expected to play.

      Talk of a Treble,  yeah on a f***in dart board maybe, trebles for show, doubles for dough, Bobby George once said, and he's right,
      But our Double is League & Champions league,  that's where the Dough is, so F**k the domestic cups !!


      YNWA


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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #948: Jan 08, 2019 08:50:19 pm
      I think that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read to be honest.

      People live far away, people can't afford to travel and buy the ticket and book accommodation etc. I don't think that's the best idea to only take the views of people based purely on the location or financial luxuries they have. They don't know more about football because of that and their opinion doesn't deserve to be taken more seriously.

      I've sat beside morons watching us play, and I'm sure I'm not alone in that. I've got very knowledgable mates who've never seen us play, and I'm sure I'm not the only one on that too.

      Doesn't add up.

      I’m pretty confident you knew what kind of arm chair fan I meant ,so I’ll just leave at that
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      Reply #949: Jan 08, 2019 09:09:56 pm
      Sorry mate. could read no further than that

      Yea, don't think Jürgen sent them out there 'wanting' to loose.
      But don't think he would have been super bothered if we didn't win.
      There is a difference though.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #950: Jan 08, 2019 09:42:03 pm
      Seeing the same posts from the same people who don't actually have any input or discuss football, their purpose is to come on here and attack anybody who says something they might not like or agree with.

      Ok, so you can be happy that we played a sh*t side, and you can be happy that we're no longer in the cup. That's something I don't agree with but I won't go out and attack all of you.

      What I will ask though is, if we don't actually win the league or we don't win the European cup, are you going to come back to this game in May and discuss it?

      And one last thing. If you don't care about the fa cup how about you don't watch the game then, get out the thread and stop talking about it and leave it to reds who actually do.

      That's why I rarely frequent this forum any more. No enlightened debate, no room for differing opinions, the same few hunt in packs and shut down any conversation they disagree with through claims of you being a 'WUM', descending into petty name calling and arguments. The juvenility of it can be quite tiresome.

      As for the FA Cup, not happy we went out but not sad either, entirely apathetic and that will not change come May regardless of what happens simply because you can only make decisions based upon the information you have on hand at the time you make it, and right now given our League position and that we're still in the - let's be perfectly honest about it - far more important Champions League, I can understand the need to rotate. What neither I nor Klopp can account for though is the underperformance by players who are more than capable of winning that game. People can criticise the gaffer all they like but they would make the same decision in the same circumstances were they the manager of the club.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #951: Jan 08, 2019 09:58:06 pm
      So how did the corrupt FA allow Utd to play Arsenal & Spurs play Palace away in the next round?

      That's the next round not this first round the PL teams go into.

      You keep your trust in the FA mate. To me they're all a bunch of cu*ts and it wouldn't surprise me one iota if they did rig it.

      Doesn't matter now...we're out!
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #952: Jan 08, 2019 10:01:52 pm
      That's why I rarely frequent this forum any more. No enlightened debate, no room for differing opinions, the same few hunt in packs and shut down any conversation they disagree with through claims of you being a 'WUM', descending into petty name calling and arguments. The juvenility of it can be quite tiresome.

      As for the FA Cup, not happy we went out but not sad either, entirely apathetic and that will not change come May regardless of what happens simply because you can only make decisions based upon the information you have on hand at the time you make it, and right now given our League position and that we're still in the - let's be perfectly honest about it - far more important Champions League, I can understand the need to rotate. What neither I nor Klopp can account for though is the underperformance by players who are more than capable of winning that game. People can criticise the gaffer all they like but they would make the same decision in the same circumstances were they the manager of the club.

      I, personally, have no issue with debate at any time.

      I, personally, just get bored with shouty, ignorant morons who think it’s really important everyone knows a) what they think; b) how pissed off they are that the manager doesn’t just do what they they think and c) pick the players they like.

      Same posts win or lose and same targets.

      That is not a debate. That’s seeing things as we actually are not as they, in fact, are.
      « Last Edit: Jan 08, 2019 10:07:16 pm by Scotia »
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #953: Jan 08, 2019 10:09:48 pm
      32 pages for a loss to Wolves in the Cup.

      Almost as much as the threads for the Arsenal and Newcastle games combined.

      Imagine if people showed this much enthusiasm to discuss our side when we play brilliantly.

      Genuinely don’t get this attitude where decisions and tactics get dissected to death in a loss. If some of y’all put that much effort in to seeing how we’re winning so many games you’d be happier and see why we’re top of the league and feared by everyone.

      Watch some highlights of our wins. Watch the supposed best team in the world celebrate beating us on their patch as if they’d won the World Cup. Enjoy the football we’re playing. Breathe. Smile.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #954: Jan 08, 2019 10:52:48 pm
      32 pages for a loss to Wolves in the Cup.

      Almost as much as the threads for the Arsenal and Newcastle games combined.

      Imagine if people showed this much enthusiasm to discuss our side when we play brilliantly.

      Genuinely don’t get this attitude where decisions and tactics get dissected to death in a loss. If some of y’all put that much effort in to seeing how we’re winning so many games you’d be happier and see why we’re top of the league and feared by everyone.

      Watch some highlights of our wins. Watch the supposed best team in the world celebrate beating us on their patch as if they’d won the World Cup. Enjoy the football we’re playing. Breathe. Smile.

      That brilliant Arsenal performance was like, NINE days ago? There were some posts earlier in the thread that would make you think we've squandered all of that good play and good standing because of the loss last night.

      Your advice to close your post, is sublime.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #955: Jan 08, 2019 11:04:39 pm
      I’m pretty confident you knew what kind of arm chair fan I meant ,so I’ll just leave at that

      I honestly didn't mate, thought you were making huge generalisations. However, pretty sure I catch your drift now
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #956: Jan 08, 2019 11:18:58 pm
      We have win league these year or think we won't get chance for long time, reason l Say that we only going one game week most season now were city going playing lot games, next season lot teams going be better like scum and Chelsea and even aresanl and city l think best players going look move on to real Madrid or Barcelona if we don't win anything these year or next l feel other rebuilt job on again so winning league will mean keep our best players
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      Reply #957: Jan 09, 2019 12:27:11 am

       :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

      Comedy post of the decade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

      Next you'll be telling me Lovren is one of the best centre backs in world football!!!!!  :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:


      Stop it!!!!!!!!!!!

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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #958: Jan 09, 2019 01:39:18 am
      I, personally, have no issue with debate at any time.

      I, personally, just get bored with shouty, ignorant morons who think it’s really important everyone knows a) what they think; b) how pissed off they are that the manager doesn’t just do what they they think and c) pick the players they like.

      Same posts win or lose and same targets.

      That is not a debate. That’s seeing things as we actually are not as they, in fact, are.

      Sometimes people just need to blow off steam after a debate and will say daft stuff in an attempt to vent their frustrations. Nothing wrong with that and certainly no reason for people to resort to calling them names. People who regurgitate the same nonsense outside of matches likewise should not be insulted, merely ignored. Point in proof of both in this very thread.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #959: Jan 09, 2019 02:31:51 am
      That brilliant Arsenal performance was like, NINE days ago? There were some posts earlier in the thread that would make you think we've squandered all of that good play and good standing because of the loss last night.

      Your advice to close your post, is sublime.


      Genuinely feels like some of those discussions we had on here during the end of the Rafa era, entire Hodgson reign and at different points of Rodgers’ management.

      Every loss was put under the magnifying glass and everyone was in the firing line.

      That in itself is bloody mad when you compare those situations to now.

      Jürgen rested a sh*t load, had so many injuries he had to reinstate one of two fit CBs, lost him to injury and people STILL angry he didn’t pick a stronger line up.

      The senior players let themselves, their manager and us fans down. No one else. But it’s one game. The carry-on in the aftermath is akin to a child taking their ball home after not getting their way.

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