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      Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #950: Jan 08, 2019 09:58:06 pm
      So how did the corrupt FA allow Utd to play Arsenal & Spurs play Palace away in the next round?

      That's the next round not this first round the PL teams go into.

      You keep your trust in the FA mate. To me they're all a bunch of cu*ts and it wouldn't surprise me one iota if they did rig it.

      Doesn't matter now...we're out!
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #951: Jan 08, 2019 10:01:52 pm
      That's why I rarely frequent this forum any more. No enlightened debate, no room for differing opinions, the same few hunt in packs and shut down any conversation they disagree with through claims of you being a 'WUM', descending into petty name calling and arguments. The juvenility of it can be quite tiresome.

      As for the FA Cup, not happy we went out but not sad either, entirely apathetic and that will not change come May regardless of what happens simply because you can only make decisions based upon the information you have on hand at the time you make it, and right now given our League position and that we're still in the - let's be perfectly honest about it - far more important Champions League, I can understand the need to rotate. What neither I nor Klopp can account for though is the underperformance by players who are more than capable of winning that game. People can criticise the gaffer all they like but they would make the same decision in the same circumstances were they the manager of the club.

      I, personally, have no issue with debate at any time.

      I, personally, just get bored with shouty, ignorant morons who think it’s really important everyone knows a) what they think; b) how pissed off they are that the manager doesn’t just do what they they think and c) pick the players they like.

      Same posts win or lose and same targets.

      That is not a debate. That’s seeing things as we actually are not as they, in fact, are.
      « Last Edit: Jan 08, 2019 10:07:16 pm by Scotia »
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #952: Jan 08, 2019 10:09:48 pm
      32 pages for a loss to Wolves in the Cup.

      Almost as much as the threads for the Arsenal and Newcastle games combined.

      Imagine if people showed this much enthusiasm to discuss our side when we play brilliantly.

      Genuinely don’t get this attitude where decisions and tactics get dissected to death in a loss. If some of y’all put that much effort in to seeing how we’re winning so many games you’d be happier and see why we’re top of the league and feared by everyone.

      Watch some highlights of our wins. Watch the supposed best team in the world celebrate beating us on their patch as if they’d won the World Cup. Enjoy the football we’re playing. Breathe. Smile.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #953: Jan 08, 2019 10:52:48 pm
      32 pages for a loss to Wolves in the Cup.

      Almost as much as the threads for the Arsenal and Newcastle games combined.

      Imagine if people showed this much enthusiasm to discuss our side when we play brilliantly.

      Genuinely don’t get this attitude where decisions and tactics get dissected to death in a loss. If some of y’all put that much effort in to seeing how we’re winning so many games you’d be happier and see why we’re top of the league and feared by everyone.

      Watch some highlights of our wins. Watch the supposed best team in the world celebrate beating us on their patch as if they’d won the World Cup. Enjoy the football we’re playing. Breathe. Smile.

      That brilliant Arsenal performance was like, NINE days ago? There were some posts earlier in the thread that would make you think we've squandered all of that good play and good standing because of the loss last night.

      Your advice to close your post, is sublime.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #954: Jan 08, 2019 11:04:39 pm
      I’m pretty confident you knew what kind of arm chair fan I meant ,so I’ll just leave at that

      I honestly didn't mate, thought you were making huge generalisations. However, pretty sure I catch your drift now
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #955: Jan 08, 2019 11:18:58 pm
      We have win league these year or think we won't get chance for long time, reason l Say that we only going one game week most season now were city going playing lot games, next season lot teams going be better like scum and Chelsea and even aresanl and city l think best players going look move on to real Madrid or Barcelona if we don't win anything these year or next l feel other rebuilt job on again so winning league will mean keep our best players
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #956: Jan 09, 2019 12:27:11 am

       :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

      Comedy post of the decade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

      Next you'll be telling me Lovren is one of the best centre backs in world football!!!!!  :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:


      Stop it!!!!!!!!!!!

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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #957: Jan 09, 2019 01:39:18 am
      I, personally, have no issue with debate at any time.

      I, personally, just get bored with shouty, ignorant morons who think it’s really important everyone knows a) what they think; b) how pissed off they are that the manager doesn’t just do what they they think and c) pick the players they like.

      Same posts win or lose and same targets.

      That is not a debate. That’s seeing things as we actually are not as they, in fact, are.

      Sometimes people just need to blow off steam after a debate and will say daft stuff in an attempt to vent their frustrations. Nothing wrong with that and certainly no reason for people to resort to calling them names. People who regurgitate the same nonsense outside of matches likewise should not be insulted, merely ignored. Point in proof of both in this very thread.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #958: Jan 09, 2019 02:31:51 am
      That brilliant Arsenal performance was like, NINE days ago? There were some posts earlier in the thread that would make you think we've squandered all of that good play and good standing because of the loss last night.

      Your advice to close your post, is sublime.


      Genuinely feels like some of those discussions we had on here during the end of the Rafa era, entire Hodgson reign and at different points of Rodgers’ management.

      Every loss was put under the magnifying glass and everyone was in the firing line.

      That in itself is bloody mad when you compare those situations to now.

      Jürgen rested a sh*t load, had so many injuries he had to reinstate one of two fit CBs, lost him to injury and people STILL angry he didn’t pick a stronger line up.

      The senior players let themselves, their manager and us fans down. No one else. But it’s one game. The carry-on in the aftermath is akin to a child taking their ball home after not getting their way.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #959: Jan 09, 2019 02:56:33 am
      That's why I rarely frequent this forum any more. No enlightened debate, no room for differing opinions, the same few hunt in packs and shut down any conversation they disagree with through claims of you being a 'WUM', descending into petty name calling and arguments. The juvenility of it can be quite tiresome.

      As for the FA Cup, not happy we went out but not sad either, entirely apathetic and that will not change come May regardless of what happens simply because you can only make decisions based upon the information you have on hand at the time you make it, and right now given our League position and that we're still in the - let's be perfectly honest about it - far more important Champions League, I can understand the need to rotate. What neither I nor Klopp can account for though is the underperformance by players who are more than capable of winning that game. People can criticise the gaffer all they like but they would make the same decision in the same circumstances were they the manager of the club.

      Same mate. If anything, they're the wum too. Why would they dismiss other reds wanting the very best for our club? Mind boggling at times some of the stuff you read on here.

      They must be boring as f**k in the boozer after the match as well. I bet their wolves post match conversation went something like this.

      'So what did you think of the game today'

      'We were excellent'

      'Even though we lost 2-1?'

      'Yes we were excellent'.

      'What did you think of the huge error that led to the first goal' 

      'Nobody's fault because we are excellent'

      'What did you make of jurgens line up'

      'It was excellent'

      'Could Mignolet have done any better for their second do you think?'

      'I don't care because he's excellent'.

      'Do you think we should take the domestic cups a little more serious considering we've only won one trophy in 12 years now?'

      'Doesn't matter because we're excellent'.

      'Ok. Have you got anything at all to add other than we're excellent?'

      'Nope'.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #960: Jan 09, 2019 05:44:08 am
      Sometimes people just need to blow off steam after a debate and will say daft stuff in an attempt to vent their frustrations. Nothing wrong with that and certainly no reason for people to resort to calling them names. People who regurgitate the same nonsense outside of matches likewise should not be insulted, merely ignored. Point in proof of both in this very thread.

      In isolation as a one off - possibly I’d agree.

      The same monotonous, self important drone all the time though is disruptive.

      It adds no value to any debate and often acts as a disincentive to others.

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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #961: Jan 09, 2019 06:14:27 am
      In isolation as a one off - possibly I’d agree.

      The same monotonous, self important drone all the time though is disruptive.

      It adds no value to any debate and often acts as a disincentive to others.

      Self important?

      What about the posters who continue to over praise certain players then? Why don't they get on your nerves?

      The thing is, and I've said this many times, I will happily admit and say a player has had a good game even if I don't particularly rate them. If I thought Moreno was motm on Monday then I'd have said so no problem, even though I think he's dog turd and want him out of this club.

      It's no secret I don't like Henderson or Lovren and I seriously worry that both could hinder our chances at silverware. The times I do think they've played well I say so in my post match opinions though. Look through them if you don't believe me, you'll find some.

      The people who continue to defend such players never admit they've had a sh*t game though, and that clearly frustrates posters as much as the likes of yourself who get annoyed when somebody blasts them which you find unfair. It's also unfair coming on here and reading the same old over the top praise bullshit as well.

      Funny place this forum. People stick to their guns and just argue for arguments sake. They've set their stall out and that's it now. I don't though. I just say things as I see them, game by game.

      I love our front three for example, but I've said many times that they haven't played well. I like James Milner, but he was f**king terrible on Monday. I like Trent, but he has shockers from time to time as well. I could go on and on.

      Anybody who can't have a proper conversation or discussion about the match afterwards who get deeply offended if there is a slight criticism about the team who they support neee to grow up. It's behaviour you get from a 9 year old who runs home because his mate said something nasty.

      It's a bloody football forum. It's our chance to voice our thoughts l. It's our chance to be a pretend manager and tell people what we'd do in klopps shoes. Or it's our chance to be Carra and analyse the game in our own way.

      Yet people come on here, quote them and resort to name calling. And the funny thing is, the only thing they themselves can come up with is 'klopp knows best' and 'if it's ok with klopp then it's ok with me'. They're the idiots on here. I don't even know why they bother coming on, they literally offer nothing.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #962: Jan 09, 2019 08:14:44 am
      Hate the being alright with going out of the cup. An FA Cup would be lovely.

      I'm fine with Klopp putting out the side he did but I'm not fine with the side he put out's performance. Was awful.

      Hard to slag young lads off as it must be very hard getting your chance every now and again. The pressure must be massive knowing you might be judged on one night only.

      Milner was awful and I know there's a few reasons that could have contributed to that but he struggled with even the basics and doesn't look either fit or in form enough at the moment.

      Sturridge, Moreno amd Mignolet really do need changing in the Summer. The drop of quality from the lads they're meant to be pressuring for a space is absolutely massive.

      I honestly can't undertand why we didn't keep Clyne for the season if not even a week after this game. We really aren't in the position to be making our squad thinner in January. While Klopp is believed to be a man who doesn't stand in the way of players who want out I would love a change of tact on that for four months while we are in a really good position yet one or two injuries away from the wheels falling off completely.

      Brighton is f**king huge.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #963: Jan 09, 2019 02:27:40 pm
      I, personally, have no issue with debate at any time.

      I, personally, just get bored with shouty, ignorant morons who think it’s really important everyone knows a) what they think; b) how pissed off they are that the manager doesn’t just do what they they think and c) pick the players they like.

      Same posts win or lose and same targets.

      That is not a debate. That’s seeing things as we actually are not as they, in fact, are.

      So why not try to change that person's opinion rather than just call them every name under the sun and accuse them of not being a fan etc. By the way I'm not saying that you do this, but there are plenty who are like this. I am more than happy to debate my point of view, but all to often its just a couple of keyboard warriors who gang up and shout me and others down without even trying to debate.
      I have had my option changed in the past through well argued posts, but I will never change my point of view by someone calling me names.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #964: Jan 09, 2019 04:41:38 pm
      I think that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read to be honest.

      He's not far wrong though. You see more at the match than on the telly and another undeniable fact is match regulars talkk more sense than half the tw*ts on the internet.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #965: Jan 09, 2019 04:49:16 pm
      He's not far wrong though. You see more at the match than on the telly and another undeniable fact is match regulars talkk more sense than half the tw*ts on the internet.


      the game looks different even from the point of view where your seated in the ground you have one angle but you can see more than just the picture the Camera shows. You can also hear more from the players and see how fluid the whole team is but the TV can show more angles and occasionally get someone to analyse without talking crap. If you have played the game and spent more than enough time at Anfield from the Boys pen to the Kop you can still see on here who is talking out of there arse and then spend almost an entire page trying to prove it.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #966: Jan 09, 2019 04:52:11 pm
      So why not try to change that person's opinion rather than just call them every name under the sun and accuse them of not being a fan etc. By the way I'm not saying that you do this, but there are plenty who are like this. I am more than happy to debate my point of view, but all to often its just a couple of keyboard warriors who gang up and shout me and others down without even trying to debate.
      I have had my option changed in the past through well argued posts, but I will never change my point of view by someone calling me names.

      You and I have been involved in a few arguments on here as you know, but I find you far more interesting than I do somebody like Walton for example who is only interested in quoting the likes of us to abuse us, then say the usual 'klopp knows more than you' etc.

      I may not always agree with you, but I like the way you're very opinionated and you're not a sheep. You're one of my favourite posters on here regardless whether I agree with you or whether I that you're completely wrong too.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #967: Jan 09, 2019 04:55:09 pm
      He's not far wrong though. You see more at the match than on the telly and another undeniable fact is match regulars talkk more sense than half the tw*ts on the internet.


      You see more off the ball at a game but I’d argue you see more on the ball action on telly, just a much better view of close control etc.

      Your going to get your spread of morons worldwide, some support Liverpool, some don’t, some go to games, some don’t
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #968: Jan 09, 2019 05:00:04 pm
      You see more off the ball at a game but I’d argue you see more on the ball action on telly, just a much better view of close control etc.

      Your going to get your spread of morons worldwide, some support Liverpool, some don’t, some go to games, some don’t

      I wouldn't, the cameras spend half the time showing either replays or focusing whats going on in the technical area like during the city game, missing bits of the game cos sky were more arsed about Pep having his bi*ch fit.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #969: Jan 09, 2019 07:24:13 pm
      I wouldn't, the cameras spend half the time showing either replays or focusing whats going on in the technical area like during the city game, missing bits of the game cos sky were more arsed about Pep having his bi*ch fit.
      Was just thinking this as I read. Lately the directors seem much apt to show a replay or close up at inopportune times, and then we often don't get a replay of what was missed.

      As to on TV vs at the match: I always get a better sense of how the match is going if there in person. At home you might know better if an offside ruling was correct, that kind of thing, but for 99 percent of the viewing experience, I'll take in the stand over on the couch anytime.

      As to fans talking crap, I've been to Anfield 6 times and have generally loved the banter/commentary from those around me. The only exception was a match where this fellow behind me wearing headphones kept shouting out fine details of I think it was a Stoke City match. Had nothing to do with our place in the table or anything, he just wanted everyone to know!  :)
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #970: Jan 09, 2019 07:35:54 pm
      I wouldn't, the cameras spend half the time showing either replays or focusing whats going on in the technical area like during the city game, missing bits of the game cos sky were more arsed about Pep having his bi*ch fit.

      Good point about Sky I must say
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #971: Jan 09, 2019 08:02:55 pm
      Self important?

      What about the posters who continue to over praise certain players then? Why don't they get on your nerves?

      The thing is, and I've said this many times, I will happily admit and say a player has had a good game even if I don't particularly rate them. If I thought Moreno was motm on Monday then I'd have said so no problem, even though I think he's dog turd and want him out of this club.

      It's no secret I don't like Henderson or Lovren and I seriously worry that both could hinder our chances at silverware. The times I do think they've played well I say so in my post match opinions though. Look through them if you don't believe me, you'll find some.

      The people who continue to defend such players never admit they've had a sh*t game though, and that clearly frustrates posters as much as the likes of yourself who get annoyed when somebody blasts them which you find unfair. It's also unfair coming on here and reading the same old over the top praise bullshit as well.

      Funny place this forum. People stick to their guns and just argue for arguments sake. They've set their stall out and that's it now. I don't though. I just say things as I see them, game by game.

      I love our front three for example, but I've said many times that they haven't played well. I like James Milner, but he was f**king terrible on Monday. I like Trent, but he has shockers from time to time as well. I could go on and on.

      Anybody who can't have a proper conversation or discussion about the match afterwards who get deeply offended if there is a slight criticism about the team who they support neee to grow up. It's behaviour you get from a 9 year old who runs home because his mate said something nasty.

      It's a bloody football forum. It's our chance to voice our thoughts l. It's our chance to be a pretend manager and tell people what we'd do in klopps shoes. Or it's our chance to be Carra and analyse the game in our own way.

      Yet people come on here, quote them and resort to name calling. And the funny thing is, the only thing they themselves can come up with is 'klopp knows best' and 'if it's ok with klopp then it's ok with me'. They're the idiots on here. I don't even know why they bother coming on, they literally offer nothing.

      Funny thing is, you also resort to name calling or dismiss other people's opinion by calling them ''deluded'' or have no ''knowledge of football''.

      double standard much?
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #972: Jan 09, 2019 08:16:29 pm
      In isolation as a one off - possibly I’d agree.

      The same monotonous, self important drone all the time though is disruptive.

      It adds no value to any debate and often acts as a disincentive to others.
      what about a game where a player hardly touched the ball, then somebody comes on here and says that he's the man on the match out of fanboyism knowing damn well people are getting bored of it and then when people say he was average all of a sudden they get sworn at? The abuse always goes towards the fans who say a player has been average and not when a fan exaggerated a performance.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #973: Jan 09, 2019 08:43:34 pm
      what about a game where a player hardly touched the ball, then somebody comes on here and says that he's the man on the match out of fanboyism knowing damn well people are getting bored of it and then when people say he was average all of a sudden they get sworn at? The abuse always goes towards the fans who say a player has been average and not when a fan exaggerated a performance.

      What about full stops and paragraphs Ribs?  :f_tongueincheek:

      To answer your question - to some extent I agree with you - but I think it’s a Chicken and egg scenario.

      There’s very, very few out and out “fanboys” (in my opinion) on here. There’s a good few obsessive haters though.

      Any personal obsession is selfish, distorting and boring as fuckity doodle doo.
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      Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #974: Jan 09, 2019 08:57:40 pm
      I think Lee Dixon is who said Liverpool's biggest obstacle to winning this season will be the pressure generated by how much supporters want/need it to happen.  It really is palpable with our group, and I think that has something to do with all the slagging that goes on here.  Not counting a few windup dolls just here to stoke dissent (these I put on ignore, like German Panzer) I always get good food for thought on here. I often don't agree with Heimdall and Hamann's the Man for instance, but they usually give me food for thought. Same w Walton, Swab and Scotia who perhaps line up on a differing side. I don't doubt all of the above are Reds through and through, and we all want to see our team lift the trophy at the end of the season.

      Maybe a little less infighting here wouldn't hurt.
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