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      Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)

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      MIRO
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #30: Jan 16, 2019 09:34:55 am
      Another good bit of biz after Torres and Coutinho went.
      Benteke.... another flop
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #31: Jan 16, 2019 09:39:29 am
      Think that  I will be going for a 2  0 win for the red men.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #32: Jan 16, 2019 10:05:25 am
      Another massive game . Think we will win comfortably 3-0
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #33: Jan 16, 2019 10:35:39 am
      Another massive game . Think we will win comfortably 3-0
      Ynwa

      Fingers crossed mate
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #34: Jan 16, 2019 10:42:02 am

      Do not fear buddy
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #35: Jan 16, 2019 12:07:45 pm
      If Matip is fit I'd be tempted to play Fab as RB to give a little bit of extra protection down that flank, against Zaha, and then play a midfield three of Hendo, Keita and Shaq, bringing Milner in if need to get more defensive. I think that team should comfortably see off Palace 3-0
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #36: Jan 16, 2019 12:13:31 pm
      Milner is more than capable at right back - happy for him to play there.

      Despite all the injuries - the team is still looking really strong. Can’t wait to see the front 3 cause mayhem
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #37: Jan 16, 2019 12:25:32 pm
      Milner is more than capable at right back - happy for him to play there.

      Despite all the injuries - the team is still looking really strong. Can’t wait to see the front 3 cause mayhem

      You really think Milner is quick enough to cope with Zaha??
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #38: Jan 16, 2019 12:37:44 pm
      You really think Milner is quick enough to cope with Zaha??

      It’s not just about pace - Milner is a seasoned pro and will have a gameplan
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #39: Jan 16, 2019 01:44:00 pm
      Wilfried Zaha (if Fit) v.s. James Milner. a long old day for Milner if palace chose to play him on that side
      But If Matip starts them I expect Fab' to start at RB

      Not sure I like the idea of Fabinho in space vs Saha either tbh, he's not exactly the quickest from a standing start. It's really important that one of our midfield three get across and support the right back no matter who plays there. Will be less necessary if Saha plays through the middle though. Hopefully they won't have the ball and we're two up by half-time!

      As for team selection i'd go with Clint's team in the first post. I really like what Keita can bring to the team but I would go for Shaq ahead of him right now, particularly given Shaqs goal return in home matches recently.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #40: Jan 16, 2019 01:51:55 pm
      It’s not just about pace - Milner is a seasoned pro and will have a gameplan

      But this isn't just about finding a right back for Palace TAA will be out for 5/6 games. A month or so will take him up to Mancheater United away. So he could miss Bayern Munich so this is a serious problem for Klopp. He might rue sending Clyne out on loan.

      We have Milner but it's not ideal. I personally think it's a bit unfair to put Fabinho in there. I think loaning Clyne was a mistake as I would've played him even if TAA was fit.Not every time but having just TAA as your only specialist right back for such an important run in is a risky policy. A risk Klopp didn't have to take
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #41: Jan 16, 2019 01:57:41 pm
      But this isn't just about finding a right back for Palace TAA will be out for 5/6 games. A month or so will take him up to Mancheater United away. So he could miss Bayern Munich so this is a serious problem for Klopp. He might rue sending Clyne out on loan.

      We have Milner but it's not ideal. I personally think it's a bit unfair to put Fabinho in there. I think loaning Clyne was a mistake as I would've played him even if TAA was fit.Not every time but having just TAA as your only specialist right back for such an important run in is a risky policy. A risk Klopp didn't have to take

      Clyne was 4th choice at best - he played once this year when TAA , Gomez and Milner were not available - it was clear the manager didn’t see him the plans

      The players will be fine
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #42: Jan 16, 2019 02:07:35 pm
      Clyne was 4th choice at best - he played once this year when TAA , Gomez and Milner were not available - it was clear the manager didn’t see him the plans

      The players will be fine

      Clyne was second choice for right back. Clyne is a quality full back.He's had injuries but has 14 full England caps and over 70 games for us. So to dismiss him as 4th choice is a poor post.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #43: Jan 16, 2019 02:18:35 pm
      Clyne was second choice for right back. Clyne is a quality full back.He's had injuries but has 14 full England caps and over 70 games for us. So to dismiss him as 4th choice is a poor post.

      He wasn’t second choice - Gomez played when TAA was rested and then when both of them were not available Milner played

      He only played when 3 other people in front of him couldn’t play
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #44: Jan 16, 2019 02:18:59 pm
      But this isn't just about finding a right back for Palace TAA will be out for 5/6 games. A month or so will take him up to Mancheater United away. So he could miss Bayern Munich so this is a serious problem for Klopp. He might rue sending Clyne out on loan.

      We have Milner but it's not ideal. I personally think it's a bit unfair to put Fabinho in there. I think loaning Clyne was a mistake as I would've played him even if TAA was fit.Not every time but having just TAA as your only specialist right back for such an important run in is a risky policy. A risk Klopp didn't have to take

      I think that Klopp would prefer to play Milner at RB than Clyne mate so i'm not sure Clyne would have got the nod ahead of Milner this weekend even if he had still been at the club tbh. I strongly suspect Clyne would still be at the club if he was seen as next in line at RB in the event of an injury, don't you?

      I'm happy with Milner to deputise there, I read a few posters saying that Clyne offers more than Milner going forward? I thought that was nonsense. defensively I think Clyne has the edge but I think we will be alright with these lads for the rest of the season and I would assume that this is the pecking order:

      1. TAA
      2. Gomez
      3. Milner
      4. Fabinho

      PS. Don't forget Milner played an entire season at Left-Back under Klopp so I don't think he would view him as an emergency player playing out of position. He's the most adaptable player in the squad.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #45: Jan 16, 2019 02:21:20 pm
      He wasn’t second choice - Gomez played when TAA was rested and then when both of them were not available Milner played

      He only played when 3 other people in front of him couldn’t play

      This. Not sure why anyone would think Clyne was 2nd choice RB, the lad couldn't get a game for love nor money! Having said that hindsight is a wonderful thing and I suspect he'd be staying put if Klopp could have foreseen our current injury problems in defence.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #46: Jan 16, 2019 02:48:41 pm
      This. Not sure why anyone would think Clyne was 2nd choice RB, the lad couldn't get a game for love nor money! Having said that hindsight is a wonderful thing and I suspect he'd be staying put if Klopp could have foreseen our current injury problems in defence.

      Even taking names out of it [and assuming if we don't sign anyone in Jan :( ] you could boil it down to a question of whether you think Citeh have a stronger, deeper squad than us?
      If the answer is yes, then does it make sense for us to let people go in Jan?
      Expecting them to push us all the way, and for us to be stretched to the limit.

      Still, like you say, hard to foresee so many injuries in defence.
      And hope that we start getting guys back before it actually hurts us [points wise].
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #47: Jan 16, 2019 03:13:45 pm
      OMG! People are actually still not over Clyne, yet!
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #48: Jan 16, 2019 03:50:11 pm
      I'm wondering if it might be an option to play Robertson as RB and Milner as LB, just to counter Zaha. Would Robertson be able to adjust?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #49: Jan 16, 2019 04:38:08 pm
      Even taking names out of it [and assuming if we don't sign anyone in Jan :( ] you could boil it down to a question of whether you think Citeh have a stronger, deeper squad than us?
      If the answer is yes, then does it make sense for us to let people go in Jan?
      Expecting them to push us all the way, and for us to be stretched to the limit.

      Still, like you say, hard to foresee so many injuries in defence.
      And hope that we start getting guys back before it actually hurts us [points wise].


      I think they are deeper in the skill positions but at full-back and defensive midfield i'd say we have the edge slightly. They have played Delph as a makeshift left back at times for the last 12 months with Mendy being out with injuries and Danilo still has a bit to prove plus Walker's form has dropped off considerably. They have got Zinchenko on the left but he has looked very dodgy. In the middle of the park they look a bit rattled without Fernandinho so an injury there could leave them with Delph having to step in or Stones playing further forward. we are actually in pretty good shape for cover and flexibility in our own midfield.   


      I'm wondering if it might be an option to play Robertson as RB and Milner as LB, just to counter Zaha. Would Robertson be able to adjust?

      I wouldn't move Roberston no matter what is going on elsewhere, he's the best left back in the league so i'd leave him where he is. Milner will be fine, he's a savvy player, if Zaha looks like getting past him he will kick him! /You can guarantee that. Just go out and play our usual attacking game and let them worry about our lads.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #50: Jan 16, 2019 04:43:24 pm
      I think they are deeper in the skill positions but at full-back and defensive midfield i'd say we have the edge slightly. They have played Delph as a makeshift left back at times for the last 12 months with Mendy being out with injuries and Danilo still has a bit to prove plus Walker's form has dropped off considerably. They have got Zinchenko on the left but he has looked very dodgy. In the middle of the park they look a bit rattled without Fernandinho so an injury there could leave them with Delph having to step in or Stones playing further forward.


      I wouldn't move Roberston no matter what is going on elsewhere, he's the best left back in the league so i'd leave him where he is. Milner will be fine, he's a savvy player, if Zaha looks like getting past him he will kick him! /You can guarantee that. Just go out and play our usual attacking game and let them worry about our lads.


      Even if Zaha doesn’t go past him he is still guaranteed a kick from Jimmy.  :D
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #51: Jan 16, 2019 04:58:23 pm
      OMG! People are actually still not over Clyne, yet!

      Heaven forbid people complaining about weakening the squad

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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #52: Jan 16, 2019 05:08:03 pm
       :bert: at RB?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #53: Jan 16, 2019 05:16:21 pm
      It’s not just about pace - Milner is a seasoned pro and will have a gameplan

      And will also have support from CB and midfield. To be honest it shouldn't be often he sees the ball
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #54: Jan 16, 2019 05:19:19 pm
      Coming for the Owl and taking down the Eagle.

      3-0 Reds .
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #55: Jan 16, 2019 05:31:24 pm

      Yes because Robertson is quicker than Milner and Zaha operates on that flank, its not really that silly a suggestion, my only query is if Robertson could operate as a RB, we already know that Jimmy is ok as LB and he'd have Virgil as extra cover on that side.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #56: Jan 16, 2019 05:45:04 pm
      Yes because Robertson is quicker than Milner and Zaha operates on that flank, its not really that silly a suggestion, my only query is if Robertson could operate as a RB, we already know that Jimmy is ok as LB and he'd have Virgil as extra cover on that side.

      Starting to tinker too much to address the opposition for me Heimy.

      Also - lose too much as a team by moving Robbo
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #57: Jan 16, 2019 05:50:19 pm
      The last team to beat us at Anfield in the league I believe?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #58: Jan 16, 2019 06:13:47 pm
      The last team to beat us at Anfield in the league I believe?

      Ah yes, the Benteke/Mama secret handshake. Let's rout them.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool V Crystal Palace (19/01/19 - 15:00)
      Reply #59: Jan 16, 2019 06:24:01 pm
      The last team to beat us at Anfield in the league I believe?

      F***ing ages ago. Big Ben fu**ed us.

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