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      Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion

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      DanMann
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #750: Jan 21, 2019 11:57:08 am
      Bit of a difference in going down too easily having felt contact.. and faking a contact (e.g. trip) and throwing yourself over in the box.

      Mo is being called out for the first, but not the latter. Yet, they consider it all the same. No chance. We've seen plenty of the latter e.g. Kane. That's a proper dive. Mo has felt contact, and has won a couple of soft penalties, but on each of those previous, there was definite contact, and definite enough to cause either a fall or an obstruction to his movement and his opportunity to score.

      The Crystal Palace one however was 90% simulation 10% contact. Not enough to cause a problem, and Mo went down looking for it. Perhaps he tried to con the ref? perhaps he felt justified (initial contact etc)? perhaps he was expecting more contact and realised his error as he hit the floor (no appeal)? Could be either. Not really comfortable with that one, but I can take that one, and Mo has certainly changed his approach and is far more prepared to ensure that he doesn't let the fouls on him go unnoticed.

      The whole situation is exaggerated though. The Arsenal one was ridiculous - with Mo getting harassed as he was leaving the pitch at HT for a blatant penalty. Then there is Kompany taking him out, somehow avoiding a red card, and calling Salah a pussy. Definite hatred out there for him at the moment - which is odd really.

      Let's just go win the title, have Mo win the Golden Boot, and let them all stick it.

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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #751: Jan 21, 2019 12:06:02 pm
      Get the f**k in!!!

      I was shitting myself before the game and all week and my nerves were warranted but what a comeback from our lads.

      Finding ways to win with a makeshift defense. Grinding the wins out when not playing well has given me the confidence that when we went 1 behind, I knew we could come back and get 2 to get back in front. I didn't expect the end score though, just glad it was in our favour.

      Really starting to believe that Number 19 is going to be ours in 2019


      Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nnnnnnnnnnn.

      Its on for sure, If we can get to the Bayern game with another 9 points I will be even more a believer, as I think City will drop points by then.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #752: Jan 21, 2019 07:27:05 pm
      Harry Kane and Delle Ali are two of the biggest divers in the land and hardly ever get pulled up, but any Jonny foreigner try do that and the likes of Shearer are disgusted!


      Well said  :gt-happyup:
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #753: Jan 21, 2019 08:08:10 pm
      Haven’t read a post since full time and I’m finally ready to talk about it.

      Alisson was pretty sh*te.

      Milner was hit and miss.

      Matip...f**k me sideways that was the Joel of old. Dumb runs forward, sh*t passes to anyone, positionally all over the place. Utter crap.

      VVD can’t recall much happening with him.

      Robbo the same.

      Hendo and Fab were good in the middle but missing when we needed to tighten the ship.

      Attack saved our asses with a bit of fortune.

      We went 2-1 up and didn’t know what to do. Same again at 3-2. Palace didn’t even bother closing us down and we still insisted on trying to play passes in to a packed midfield and kept giving it away for them to counter attack. HOLD THE BALL.

      Such an annoying performance because it was everything we haven’t been this season. Lost, confused, panicky.

      But we won. And everyone would hate that. So roll on to the next one after a much needed mini break.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #754: Jan 21, 2019 08:47:42 pm
      Haven’t read a post since full time and I’m finally ready to talk about it.

      Alisson was pretty sh*te.

      Milner was hit and miss.

      Matip...f**k me sideways that was the Joel of old. Dumb runs forward, sh*t passes to anyone, positionally all over the place. Utter crap.

      VVD can’t recall much happening with him.

      Robbo the same.

      Hendo and Fab were good in the middle but missing when we needed to tighten the ship.

      Attack saved our asses with a bit of fortune.

      We went 2-1 up and didn’t know what to do. Same again at 3-2. Palace didn’t even bother closing us down and we still insisted on trying to play passes in to a packed midfield and kept giving it away for them to counter attack. HOLD THE BALL.

      Such an annoying performance because it was everything we haven’t been this season. Lost, confused, panicky.

      But we won. And everyone would hate that. So roll on to the next one after a much needed mini break.

      Bit harsh on alisson. Should have done better for the 3rd but otherwise couldn't do much for the other 2
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #755: Jan 22, 2019 09:20:24 am
      Bit harsh on alisson. Should have done better for the 3rd but otherwise couldn't do much for the other 2

      First goal shouldn't be trying to drop his hands. Use the feet - increases reach and reduces reaction time.

      Second goal bad positioning. Shouldn't be beaten at that trajectory and placement.

      My opinion of course.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #756: Jan 22, 2019 09:44:16 am
      First goal shouldn't be trying to drop his hands. Use the feet - increases reach and reduces reaction time.

      Second goal bad positioning. Shouldn't be beaten at that trajectory and placement.

      My opinion of course.

      Exactly what I noticed for 1st goal. DeGea is brilliant in these situations when he uses his feet so well. Countless no of times where he just stuck his foot to save a certain goal.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #757: Jan 22, 2019 09:46:23 am
      Quick summary on the palace goals;

      1st goal well played, great run and fantastic cut back and cracking finish, trent would have struggled to catch zaha, milner had no chance, the trick from our point of view was maybe stop zaha getting a run on milner.

      2nd goal, VVD was fouled, but a cracking header.

      3rd goal, we were 4-2 up cruising waiting on final whistle, let them have the ball really, then the lad put it away very well.

      I always prefer to look at it from an attacking point of view got goals we let in.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #758: Jan 22, 2019 10:29:08 am
      Quick summary on the palace goals;

      1st goal well played, great run and fantastic cut back and cracking finish, trent would have struggled to catch zaha, milner had no chance, the trick from our point of view was maybe stop zaha getting a run on milner.

      2nd goal, VVD was fouled, but a cracking header.

      3rd goal, we were 4-2 up cruising waiting on final whistle, let them have the ball really, then the lad put it away very well.

      I always prefer to look at it from an attacking point of view got goals we let in.

      Whereas I like to look at it from the goalkeeper's point of view. That is his job! :D

      Regarding the second goal, it was a looped header that was a couple yards inside the far post. Alisson is covering barely a third of his goal with his positioning and body weight going to his left at time of impact.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #759: Jan 22, 2019 10:55:52 am
      Whereas I like to look at it from the goalkeeper's point of view. That is his job! :D

      Regarding the second goal, it was a looped header that was a couple yards inside the far post. Alisson is covering barely a third of his goal with his positioning and body weight going to his left at time of impact.

      Fair enough.

      You can usually say with most goals the goalie could perhaps have done a bit better.

      Im not going to be too harsh on our defense at the weekend, considering we were missing; gomez, lovren & trent.

      If 2 of those 3 were playing, I reckon the score would have been a lot more comfortable.

      Bonus is those 3 guys will be back sooner rather than later, all set for the final push of the season.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #760: Jan 22, 2019 09:41:05 pm
      Its on for sure, If we can get to the Bayern game with another 9 points I will be even more a believer, as I think City will drop points by then.

      Everything crossed Brother.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #761: Jan 26, 2019 02:49:20 pm
      Couldn't see the first 15 minutes, so checked into LiveScore to see if there were any developments. They now have a virtual tracker of games, a glorified computer simulation of what's going on. Came across some new phrases as well, so everytime the ball comes within 30 yards of goal, it's a "dangerous attack", and when the opposition defend it, they are "ball safe". Anyway apparantly not much happened, so when I could see it, there seemed little likelihood of the rollercoaster to come, except John Moss was in charge, and when that's the case, mayhem usually follows.

      Having already denied us a stonewall pen for handball, a scuffle broke out over Mo just before half time, that took an age for him to sort out. I still can't decide if it was a foul or not, but either way, you wouldn't know what Moss would give, especially when there is no sound on the broadcast. By then, they had scored with their first attack, and I could see the keyboarders coming out to post their pieces up. That today was going to be the day, when everything we've done to this point would be rendered null and void.

      Within 7 minutes of the game resuming, we had turned it around, and the panic was over, or so it seemed. Instantly, the pace of the game dropped off to walking pace level. With over half an hour left and us vulnerable to counter attacks, it seemed a bit early to me, for easing down. Most refs like to penalise pushing and holding at set plays, Moss didn't spot it on VVD and the equaliser stood. So we had to pick up the pace again and hunt down the winner. We were opening them up easy enough, but keeping the back door shut was a bigger problem. Before the game, I saw a pundit say their keeper would throw a howler at some point, given his status and lack of first team action. Sure enough he obliged and we went in front, so the pace could drop again. And it did for a while before the fireworks started. A third red card by Moss to one of our players in his last 4 LFC games iirc. When Mane made it 4-2, the game should have been done and dusted. But it wasn't, and so it was a nervy last couple of minutes. Not a great performance, a blast from the past at the back, but we got over the line.

      We have scored 17 goals in the last 5 home league games. But we've gone behind in 4 of the last 5 games in all competitions, and that has to stop soon. Otherwise, the keyboarders will be out in force soon enough, posting online and printing offline what they have had to save as a draft, since the beginning of the season.

      That is hopefully the last time we see Moss this season. He is by some distance the worst ref in the league, not just for us, but for everyone. And with the likes of Friend and Pawson and Taylor as colleagues, that's some achievement. I shudder the thought of him reffing us again before VAR comes in. At least then, someone in Stockley Park can cover for him and make him look good for a change.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #762: Jan 29, 2019 07:38:31 pm
      Relive the rollercoaster with the audio highlights.

      https://youtu.be/mDkn56-_cQc

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