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      Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion

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      LondonRed83
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #713: Jan 20, 2019 11:16:50 am
      Just on my way back from Liverpool now - absolutely F***ing hanging.

      What a game to catch live - I was not expecting that at all. It felt like palace had one attack in the first half and F***ing scored - was absolutely gutted, and it was a superb F***ing goal too.

      The two goals after half time happened so quickly - it was insane.

      And it just didn’t stop until the end - I was literally in the stand praying for a winner when it was 2-2. Atmosphere was a bit weird, amazing when we went 2 up, but a bit quiet rest of the game.

      Loved it though - I’ll take any type of win, was absolutely buzzing and drank half of Liverpool and threw up in the streets this morning as I walked to Lime Street station. Well worth it.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #714: Jan 20, 2019 12:14:09 pm
      Shearer trying to defend himself on Twitter for not condemning Kane's diving, but is that the real point here?



      I think fans need to speak up for Salah and not let that turnip tarnish Salah's name and our season.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #715: Jan 20, 2019 12:30:03 pm
      Shearer trying to defend himself on Twitter for not condemning Kane's diving, but is that the real point here?



      I think fans need to speak up for Salah and not let that turnip tarnish Salah's name and our season.

      There was contact yes,but it was still a dive from Salah, or certainly there was not enough contact for him to fall over in the way he did, BUT he is not the only one doing it.
      What I worry about now is that sooner or later we'll get a crucial penalty denied because he has built up a reputation, fairly or unfairly.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #716: Jan 20, 2019 01:27:53 pm
      There was contact yes,but it was still a dive from Salah, or certainly there was not enough contact for him to fall over in the way he did, BUT he is not the only one doing it.
      What I worry about now is that sooner or later we'll get a crucial penalty denied because he has built up a reputation, fairly or unfairly.

      But you can't accuse Salah of diving as he is a finely balanced player. You/we just do not know how much contact was made a Sakho on Salah's left shoulder. Pulling on the shoulder can easily unbalance a player. It's one of the area's of the body that can easily affect balance.

      I've tried a few time to say how balance is vital to players like Salah. Can't emphasis how important it is to flair players. It might look like he went down easily...and he might've...but we just don't know. We know he was pulled at when he was on his toes trying to wriggle and feint this way and that. Salah often operated, does his magic on an area no bigger than a manhole cover. Balance can be lost. He often does fall over without being touched. Watch his play closely and you see he loses control of the ball, loses his balance slightly and that happens EVEN when there is NO contact.

      Better understanding of the type of player Salah is, would help refs and fans understand the dynamics and physics that affect such players.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #717: Jan 20, 2019 01:31:34 pm
      No mention of VVD being held down for their second goal?
      Their player had hold of him from behind, just long enough so that he couldn't get up for the header.

      Salah was fouled.
      I've watched it a few times now, and Sakho (after the kick) put his hand across his shoulder and dragged him down.
      Was it enough contact?
      Yes, IMO, given the fact that pens showing the same amount of contact have been given by VAR.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #718: Jan 20, 2019 01:48:53 pm
      But the other thing, which is perhaps how irresponsible Shearer and MOTD are. Shearer was a bull of a player, good balance but not a flair player relying on balance and trickery but in calling Salah a diver how much does this type of crap bury itself into the subconscious  of watching refs.

      Could say Salah takes that risk when he does go down easily. We know diving is endemic or not far off it in the game. The main reason VAR was or is being introduced in the first place.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #719: Jan 20, 2019 01:56:01 pm
      First game at anfield about 1926 I think they said!
      That's amazing... Bet that he could tell a story or two that's not in the clubs history book
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #720: Jan 20, 2019 01:57:28 pm
      But the other thing, which is perhaps how irresponsible Shearer and MOTD are. Shearer was a bull of a player, good balance but not a flair player relying on balance and trickery but in calling Salah a diver how much does this type of crap bury itself into the subconscious  of watching refs.

      Could say Salah takes that risk when he does go down easily. We know diving is endemic or not far off it in the game. The main reason VAR was or is being introduced in the first place.

      Shearer wasn't above "going to ground when he felt the contact" either.
      In fact if memory serves, he did a fair bit of it.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #721: Jan 20, 2019 02:09:30 pm
      Garth crooks saying great players don't dive, F**k me i assume he never watched Cristiano ronaldo play
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #722: Jan 20, 2019 02:18:18 pm
      There was contact yes,but it was still a dive from Salah, or certainly there was not enough contact for him to fall over in the way he did, BUT he is not the only one doing it.
      What I worry about now is that sooner or later we'll get a crucial penalty denied because he has built up a reputation, fairly or unfairly.

      I get the feeling it's a tactic or just Salah deciding he won't ever be caught in a situation like with Ramos in the final last year.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #723: Jan 20, 2019 02:30:00 pm
      I’m disappointed he went to ground so easily - I personally don’t like it.

      But I F***ing love him xxxx
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #724: Jan 20, 2019 02:36:31 pm
      Aside from the annoying Salah thing, again, has to be said...Keita didn't impress, I mean he wasn't dire, he did play Bobby in but he just doesn't turn it on. I wanted him in yesterday. I do like him but the club won't wait.Huge bid has been reported, for Felix. Benfica are talking £100m +.

      So Nabby might not get another go anytime soon, unless he does something of note when he comes off the bench in the last 20 or so. Disappointed in the lad so far.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #725: Jan 20, 2019 02:40:52 pm
      Aside from the annoying Salah thing, again, has to be said...Keita didn't impress, I mean he wasn't dire, he did play Bobby in but he just doesn't turn it on. I wanted him in yesterday. I do like him but the club won't wait.Huge bid has been reported, for Felix. Benfica are talking £100m +.

      So Nabby might not get another go anytime soon, unless he does something of note when he comes off the bench in the last 20 or so. Disappointed in the lad so far.

      I think everything we know about Jürgen is that naby will get time, as for the felix stuff, smacks of bullshit to me
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #726: Jan 20, 2019 02:46:26 pm
      I think everything we know about Jürgen is that naby will get time, as for the felix stuff, smacks of bullshit to me

      Yeah and we paid Benfica top money for Markovic...say no more..nudge nudge..
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #727: Jan 20, 2019 02:54:28 pm
      Yeah and we paid Benfica top money for Markovic...say no more..nudge nudge..

      Not really sure how that is relevant
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      Reply #728: Jan 20, 2019 03:29:27 pm

      I'm sending you the racing program today from Santa Anita in California. I'd like your tips on winners in races 1, 2 and 7, the Exacta in race 4, and the Trifecta in race 8. Thank you.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #729: Jan 20, 2019 03:32:30 pm
      Garth crooks saying great players don't dive, f**k me i assume he never watched Cristiano ronaldo play

      or Neymar...
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #730: Jan 20, 2019 03:33:43 pm
      Garth crooks saying great players don't dive, f**k me i assume he never watched Cristiano ronaldo play

      or Messi, plenty of dives I've seen both of them go to ground easily.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #731: Jan 20, 2019 03:36:06 pm
      Aside from the annoying Salah thing, again, has to be said...Keita didn't impress, I mean he wasn't dire, he did play Bobby in but he just doesn't turn it on. I wanted him in yesterday. I do like him but the club won't wait.Huge bid has been reported, for Felix. Benfica are talking £100m +.

      So Nabby might not get another go anytime soon, unless he does something of note when he comes off the bench in the last 20 or so. Disappointed in the lad so far.

      I hear what you're saying but yesterday was a pretty weird game all round, he needs a a good run of games for us to really see whether or not he can make it. I still say there's a good player there, but he just isn't quite on the same wavelength of his team mates at the moment, but I also recall that it took the Ox a while to settle as well.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #732: Jan 20, 2019 03:37:13 pm
      Seen online today that apparently Jon Moss was Milly’s teacher back in school.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #733: Jan 20, 2019 04:10:11 pm
      Garth crooks saying great players don't dive, F**k me i assume he never watched Cristiano ronaldo play

      ......or Kane.
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      Reply #734: Jan 20, 2019 04:21:05 pm
      Seen online today that apparently Jon Moss was Milly’s teacher back in school.

      Breast feed him as well ?
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      Re: Liverpool 4-3 Crystal Palace: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #735: Jan 20, 2019 04:44:56 pm
      Not really sure how that is relevant

      Relevant in the sense that it is difficult to judge a player who impresses in the Primeira, especially with such a high price tag. Not a lottery but something of a risk and that was the point I was cryptically suggesting.

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