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      Reply #25: Feb 18, 2019 05:30:24 pm
      Guess it would all come back to israel eh ? Corbyn has the opportunity of a lifetime to grab the bull by the horns and lead this country out of the sh*t creek it is paddling up. Instead we get the same old indecisive,  dithering bluster and wasting time on side issues that could and should have been put to bed ages ago.

      Well it does come down to Israel.. they split from the party believing it was Anti Semitic & not much was done to address this issue.. Corbyn was attacked in most Jewish pint papers , was labelled a hater of Israel..So we have a foreign government  actually getting involved in our democracy & undermining the leader of the opposition...on film an agent willing to pay money to bring down Corbyn & other members of Labour...

      Labour under Corbyn is close to an election victory & what selfish 7 assholes have done is try to damage labour getting into power..

      If your happy with universal credit,food banks, no worker rights etc etc.. carry on as you are..

      But but the problem is Corbyn.. righty oh..
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      Reply #26: Feb 18, 2019 05:35:25 pm
      Well it does come down to Israel.. they split from the party believing it was Anti Semitic & not much was done to address this issue.. Corbyn was attacked in most Jewish pint papers , was labelled a hater of Israel..So we have a foreign government  actually getting involved in our democracy & undermining the leader of the opposition...on film an agent willing to pay money to bring down Corbyn & other members of Labour...

      Labour under Corbyn is close to an election victory & what selfish 7 assholes have done is try to damage labour getting into power..

      If your happy with universal credit,food banks, no worker rights etc etc.. carry on as you are..

      But but the problem is Corbyn.. righty oh..

      Meeting hamas ( however good the intentions) didn't play a part in their impression of him then ?
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      Reply #27: Feb 18, 2019 05:39:53 pm
      Meeting hamas ( however good the intentions) didn't play a part in their impression of him then ?

      Ahh Khamas card...🙄

      The link to the documentary if you wish to learn a bit more on the subject is in the link..


      https://twitter.com/asawinstanley/status/1097439786103726080?s=21
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      Reply #28: Feb 18, 2019 05:49:50 pm


      Supported Labour all my life and will continue to do so but it has to be said under it's present leader the fact that this corrupt Tory administration is still in power speaks volumes for his credibility or lack of.
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      Reply #29: Feb 18, 2019 06:00:27 pm
      Ahh Khamas card...🙄

      The link to the documentary if you wish to learn a bit more on the subject is in the link..


      https://twitter.com/asawinstanley/status/1097439786103726080?s=21


      You rail against the british media but lap up stuff from organisations such as al jazeera and russia today. We could talk about some of the utterings of stop the war coalition who have at times slandered israeli athletes killed at munich and advocated war against israel. The phrase about getting your own house in order is apt. Criticise diane abbot and your sexist or racist. Sort yourself out and he will be pm
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      Reply #30: Feb 18, 2019 06:08:45 pm
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      Reply #31: Feb 18, 2019 06:17:02 pm

      What about hus work... How about you counter his work with facts if his are false..
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      Reply #32: Feb 18, 2019 06:23:36 pm
      What about hus work... How about you counter his work with facts if his are false..


      Don't need to counter anything. I am certainly not going to defend israel in many counts but read his entire twitter history. The man is an ant-zionist which is fine but he is also a borderline crank who frankly isn't capable of having a balanced debate on anything. He states the labour anti-semitism crisis is a hoax, even those at the top admit there has been an issue.  Don't let your hatred of israel blind you to that fact.
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      Reply #33: Feb 18, 2019 07:31:05 pm
      That careerist lust for power for power’s sake - endemic under Blair / Brown - is one of the things that made my transition to full on Indy much easier.

      I was always pro Indy BUT Red Labour.

      Sorry, are we all meant to feel that the real victim in this is Corbyn or something? I find it rich people banging on about careerists when the only proper job Corbyn himself has ever held down is within the political arena.

      What is beyond reprehensible is that because she is identified (completely falsely as well) as being of the Blairite ilk that she doesn't deserve our sympathy. Remember, in Luciana Berger we have someone who sat as the first ever Shadow minister for mental health, an unprecedented role and one that shone a glaring light on the failings of the Tories when it came to mental health. It's one of the best things that she and Corbyn did and it gave hope to people who believed that Corbyn could lead his party properly.

      But let's just remember what Berger has had to put up with.

      https://twitter.com/lucianaberger/status/708956088864010240

      Are we supposed to ignore this in favour of a polemic stained by anti Jewish thought that this was just a false flag and the act of a career obsessed chancer? At best, she's dismissed because she's of a certain type of Labour MP that just isn't allowed to exist in today's Britain where extremism is the order of the day, but at it's worst she is attacked simply for being Jewish AND for being a woman.

      The sneers have only gotten louder since her pregnancy, getting so bad that far left extremists on twitter have been tweeting to her that they hope she loses her baby like all those 'dead Palestinian babies' she supposedly revels in. Are we supposed to ignore that too?

      It's only fair to mention that Berger's harrasment has not just come from the far left. Initially, in her first years in parliament, she was the subject of attacks from neo nazis on social media. And then UKIP candidates got in on the act as well. Where the far right shone a light on her Jewish ethnicity, the far left have picked it up and groped, ransacked and rummaged it, well beyond the supposed 'kind and gentler' politics they chanted to themselves as they marched into the Labour Party. So much that she had to receive a POLICE ESCORT to ensure her safety at conference events and anti semitism marches.

      The irony within this whole sorry episode of course is Corbyn's initial platform of campaigning on a leadership that would bring in a 'kinder and gentler' politics. So kind and gentle that they've driven away one of its best and most decent MPs away from the party. Corbyn isn't directly to blame but his followers are. But unfortunately he has chosen to continue to remain a part of such a following. And that following includes a lifetime of campaigning alongside people (and proclaiming them friends) who want to see Israel and beyond that the entire Jewish race wiped off the face off the earth.

      Berger's right. The Labour Party is institutionally anti-semitic. It's full of hate and aggression that has overflown to the point that it has put her own personal safety at risk. At the end of the day her only crime is that she is a Jew and a woman. Or, in the words of her extremist opponents, a 'Jewish whore'. But for standing up to such hate so forthrightly she's not just a credit to Jewish people across the continent who are increasingly finding themselves on the end of anti-semitic abuse, she's also a credit to every female politician standing up against the forces of sexism and macho pouting extremists that occupy the far left and right.

      To ignore her fears and side with those who have castigated her is to be complicit in aiding the increasingly violent, extremist political culture that we and many other countries find ourselves in today.
      « Last Edit: Feb 18, 2019 10:03:27 pm by Frankly, Mr Shankly »
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      Reply #34: Feb 18, 2019 07:39:38 pm
      Sorry, are we all meant to feel that the real victim in this is Corbyn or something? I find it rich people banging on about careerists when the only proper job Corbyn himself has ever held down is within the political arena.

      What is beyond reprehensible is that because she is identified (completely falsely as well) as being of the Blairite ilk that she doesn't deserve our sympathy. Remember, in Luciana Berger we have someone who sat as the first ever Shadow minister for mental health, an unprecedented role and one that shone a glaring light on the failings of the Tories when it came to mental health. It's one of the best things that she and Corbyn did and it gave hope to people who believed that Corbyn could lead his party properly.

      But let's just remember what Berger has had to put up with.

      https://twitter.com/lucianaberger/status/708956088864010240

      Are we supposed to ignore this in favour of a polemic stained by anti Jewish thought that this was just a false flag and the act of a career obsessed? At best, she's dismissed because she's of a certain type of Labour MP that just isn't allowed to exist in today Britain where extremism is the order of the day, but at it's worst she is attacked simply for being Jewish AND for being a woman.

      The sneers have only gotten louder since her pregnancy, getting so bad that far left extremists on twitter have been tweeting to her that they hope she loses her baby like all those 'dead Palestinian babies' she supposedly revels in. Are we supposed to ignore that too?

      It's only fair to mention that Berger's harrasment has not just come from the far left. Initially, in her first years in parliament, she was the subject of attacks from neo nazis on social media. And then UKIP candidates got in on the act as well. Where the far right shone a light on her Jewish ethnicity, the far left have picked it up and groped, ransacked and rummaged it, well beyond the supposed 'kind and gentler' politics they chanted to themselves as they marched into the Labour Party. So much that she had to receive a POLICE ESCORT to ensure her safety at conference events and anti semitism marches.

      The irony within this whole sorry episode of course is Corbyn's initial platform of campaigning on a leadership that would bring in a 'kinder and gentler' politics. So kind and gentle that they've driven away one of its best and most decent MPs away from the party. Corbyn isn't directly to blame but his followers are. But unfortunately he has chosen to be a part of such a following. And that following includes a lifetime of campaigning alongside people (and proclaiming them friends) who want to see Israel and beyond that the entire Jewish race wiped off the face off the earth.

      Berger's right. The Labour Party is institutionally anti-semitic. It's full of hate and aggression, that has overflown to the point that it has put her own personal safety at risk. At the end of the day, her only crime is that she is a Jew and a woman. Or, in the words of her extremist opponents, a 'Jewish whore'. But for standing up to such hate so forthrightly she's not just a credit to Jewish people across the continent who are increasingly finding themselves on the end of anti-semitic abuse, she's also a credit to every female politician standing up against the forces of sexism and macho pouting extremists that occupy the far left and right.

      To ignore her fears and side with those who have castigated her, is to be complicit in aiding the increasingly violent, extremist political culture that we and many other countries find ourselves in today.

      I wasn’t picking any sides in the Labour anti-semitism mess FMS.

      I was calling out an ongoing issue in credibility the party as a whole has.
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      Reply #35: Feb 18, 2019 07:44:48 pm
      Don't need to counter anything. I am certainly not going to defend israel in many counts but read his entire twitter history. The man is an ant-zionist which is fine but he is also a borderline crank who frankly isn't capable of having a balanced debate on anything. He states the labour anti-semitism crisis is a hoax, even those at the top admit there has been an issue.  Don't let your hatred of israel blind you to that fact.

      There is no hatred of Israel, it’s the genocidal policies towards the Palestinian population that is the issue..You can’t critisise Israeli policies without the anti Semite card being thrown at you..

      Out of the 7 name one that has left because of Corbyn’s domestic policies?.
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      Reply #36: Feb 18, 2019 07:46:43 pm
      Sorry, are we all meant to feel that the real victim in this is Corbyn or something? I find it rich people banging on about careerists when the only proper job Corbyn himself has ever held down is within the political arena.

      What is beyond reprehensible is that because she is identified (completely falsely as well) as being of the Blairite ilk that she doesn't deserve our sympathy. Remember, in Luciana Berger we have someone who sat as the first ever Shadow minister for mental health, an unprecedented role and one that shone a glaring light on the failings of the Tories when it came to mental health. It's one of the best things that she and Corbyn did and it gave hope to people who believed that Corbyn could lead his party properly.

      But let's just remember what Berger has had to put up with.

      https://twitter.com/lucianaberger/status/708956088864010240

      Are we supposed to ignore this in favour of a polemic stained by anti Jewish thought that this was just a false flag and the act of a career obsessed chancer? At best, she's dismissed because she's of a certain type of Labour MP that just isn't allowed to exist in today's Britain where extremism is the order of the day, but at it's worst she is attacked simply for being Jewish AND for being a woman.

      The sneers have only gotten louder since her pregnancy, getting so bad that far left extremists on twitter have been tweeting to her that they hope she loses her baby like all those 'dead Palestinian babies' she supposedly revels in. Are we supposed to ignore that too?

      It's only fair to mention that Berger's harrasment has not just come from the far left. Initially, in her first years in parliament, she was the subject of attacks from neo nazis on social media. And then UKIP candidates got in on the act as well. Where the far right shone a light on her Jewish ethnicity, the far left have picked it up and groped, ransacked and rummaged it, well beyond the supposed 'kind and gentler' politics they chanted to themselves as they marched into the Labour Party. So much that she had to receive a POLICE ESCORT to ensure her safety at conference events and anti semitism marches.

      The irony within this whole sorry episode of course is Corbyn's initial platform of campaigning on a leadership that would bring in a 'kinder and gentler' politics. So kind and gentle that they've driven away one of its best and most decent MPs away from the party. Corbyn isn't directly to blame but his followers are. But unfortunately he has chosen to continue to remain a part of such a following. And that following includes a lifetime of campaigning alongside people (and proclaiming them friends) who want to see Israel and beyond that the entire Jewish race wiped off the face off the earth.

      Berger's right. The Labour Party is institutionally anti-semitic. It's full of hate and aggression that has overflown to the point that it has put her own personal safety at risk. At the end of the day her only crime is that she is a Jew and a woman. Or, in the words of her extremist opponents, a 'Jewish whore'. But for standing up to such hate so forthrightly she's not just a credit to Jewish people across the continent who are increasingly finding themselves on the end of anti-semitic abuse, she's also a credit to every female politician standing up against the forces of sexism and macho pouting extremists that occupy the far left and right.

      To ignore her fears and side with those who have castigated her, is to be complicit in aiding the increasingly violent, extremist political culture that we and many other countries find ourselves in today.

      Have you see Diane Abbots twitter account?..
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      Reply #37: Feb 18, 2019 08:01:02 pm
      There is no hatred of Israel, it’s the genocidal policies towards the Palestinian population that is the issue..You can’t critisise Israeli policies without the anti Semite card being thrown at you..

      Out of the 7 name one that has left because of Corbyn’s domestic policies?.

      You wouldn't class brexit as a domestic policy ? Although it revolves around trade it ultimately concerns the economy. Antisemitism in your own party isn't domestic. Trying to fudge the issue.
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      Reply #38: Feb 18, 2019 08:39:02 pm
      You wouldn't class brexit as a domestic policy ? Although it revolves around trade it ultimately concerns the economy. Antisemitism in your own party isn't domestic. Trying to fudge the issue.

      If you can’t see why these 7 have jumped ship other than Corbyn’s stance on Israel I can’t help you mate..

      Not one has left because of domestic policies..

      Oh and a great start for the independent party.. people of “tinge”... we’re leaving because of racism but make a reference to other people as tinge..
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      Reply #39: Feb 18, 2019 09:16:18 pm
      These 7 leaving or staying makes no difference to Labour’s chances of election victory with Corbyn as the leader.
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      Reply #40: Feb 18, 2019 09:28:24 pm

      Sorry, off topic, but I f**king despise the far left keyboard warrior extremists, and even more so, the ones creeping into the entertainment industry and ruining the things we love.... especially, Star Wars  :(
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      Reply #41: Feb 18, 2019 09:31:30 pm
      Sorry, off topic, but I f**king despise the far left keyboard warrior extremists, and even more so, the ones creeping into the entertainment industry and ruining the things we love.... especially, Star Wars  :(

      The last jedi wasn't THAT bad, now i have said it
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      Reply #42: Feb 18, 2019 09:35:57 pm
      If you can’t see why these 7 have jumped ship other than Corbyn’s stance on Israel I can’t help you mate..

      Not one has left because of domestic policies..

      Oh and a great start for the independent party.. people of “tinge”... we’re leaving because of racism but make a reference to other people as tinge..

      When you can't solve problems or issues until you first admit you have them then all you will have is this attitude of blame everyone else.
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      Reply #43: Feb 18, 2019 09:37:43 pm
      The last jedi wasn't THAT bad, now i have said it

      Very decisive film & has split the fanbase! From the humour, Finn, Mary Sue, feminist agenda, Luke and pretty much ignoring FA, then to top it all off.... Rose Tico..... need I say more! And no, I am not a racist, misogynist & bigot!!
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      Reply #44: Feb 18, 2019 09:49:53 pm
      Very decisive film & has split the fanbase! From the humour, Finn, Mary Sue, feminist agenda, Luke and pretty much ignoring FA, then to top it all off.... Rose Tico..... need I say more! And no, I am not a racist, misogynist & bigot!!

      Oh come on, she's hardly jar jar binks
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      Reply #45: Feb 19, 2019 12:19:51 pm
      Ah , the good old character assassination angle. Have come to expect nothing else from corbyn's supporters. Suppose it's better than banging on about being infiltrated by tories or trotskyites. No wonder the state of politics is at an all time low, the whole rotten bunch of them are in it for themselves.  Heard and read the seven being called splitters ? Is this f**king life of brian ?

      yeah, you might try doing a bit of research before gobbing off.

      Try looking at the links between Umunna and Lord Sainsbury, who was Blairs backer since the 1990's.
      Try looking at where the funding for "Progress" comes from, and that's just his most famous "think tank" then remember this is the same bloke who spoke about "a party within a party" while taking backhanders.

      Try looking at the financing of his new "group" which hasn't registered as a political party and is using a private company called "Gemini A Ltd" to funnel donations and keep donors secret, which they can do thanks to not registering as a political party.
      It was formed in January by Shuker (another one of the 7) solely for use as a vehicle for donors money, not to mention the fact that their website privacy provider is registered in panama.

      So before gobbing off about "character assassinations", look at the f**king facts.
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      Reply #46: Feb 19, 2019 12:41:55 pm
      Sorry, are we all meant to feel that the real victim in this is Corbyn or something? I find it rich people banging on about careerists when the only proper job Corbyn himself has ever held down is within the political arena.

      What is beyond reprehensible is that because she is identified (completely falsely as well) as being of the Blairite ilk that she doesn't deserve our sympathy. Remember, in Luciana Berger we have someone who sat as the first ever Shadow minister for mental health, an unprecedented role and one that shone a glaring light on the failings of the Tories when it came to mental health. It's one of the best things that she and Corbyn did and it gave hope to people who believed that Corbyn could lead his party properly.

      But let's just remember what Berger has had to put up with.

      https://twitter.com/lucianaberger/status/708956088864010240

      Are we supposed to ignore this in favour of a polemic stained by anti Jewish thought that this was just a false flag and the act of a career obsessed chancer? At best, she's dismissed because she's of a certain type of Labour MP that just isn't allowed to exist in today's Britain where extremism is the order of the day, but at it's worst she is attacked simply for being Jewish AND for being a woman.

      The sneers have only gotten louder since her pregnancy, getting so bad that far left extremists on twitter have been tweeting to her that they hope she loses her baby like all those 'dead Palestinian babies' she supposedly revels in. Are we supposed to ignore that too?

      It's only fair to mention that Berger's harrasment has not just come from the far left. Initially, in her first years in parliament, she was the subject of attacks from neo nazis on social media. And then UKIP candidates got in on the act as well. Where the far right shone a light on her Jewish ethnicity, the far left have picked it up and groped, ransacked and rummaged it, well beyond the supposed 'kind and gentler' politics they chanted to themselves as they marched into the Labour Party. So much that she had to receive a POLICE ESCORT to ensure her safety at conference events and anti semitism marches.

      The irony within this whole sorry episode of course is Corbyn's initial platform of campaigning on a leadership that would bring in a 'kinder and gentler' politics. So kind and gentle that they've driven away one of its best and most decent MPs away from the party. Corbyn isn't directly to blame but his followers are. But unfortunately he has chosen to continue to remain a part of such a following. And that following includes a lifetime of campaigning alongside people (and proclaiming them friends) who want to see Israel and beyond that the entire Jewish race wiped off the face off the earth.

      Berger's right. The Labour Party is institutionally anti-semitic. It's full of hate and aggression that has overflown to the point that it has put her own personal safety at risk. At the end of the day her only crime is that she is a Jew and a woman. Or, in the words of her extremist opponents, a 'Jewish whore'. But for standing up to such hate so forthrightly she's not just a credit to Jewish people across the continent who are increasingly finding themselves on the end of anti-semitic abuse, she's also a credit to every female politician standing up against the forces of sexism and macho pouting extremists that occupy the far left and right.

      To ignore her fears and side with those who have castigated her is to be complicit in aiding the increasingly violent, extremist political culture that we and many other countries find ourselves in today.

      The problem here is that of an outsider looking in and using only one side of an argument.

      The fact is that like Umunna, Berger was facing censure from her CLP and was about to be the subject of a deselection hearing.
      She immediately started screaming "anti-semitism" which is a favourite tactic of hers (and has been since before she was parachuted into a safe seat), but seems odd in this instance because the chair of her CLP and the person who was bringing the VoNC is Jewish.
      Kind of puts a different slant on things.

      Then we have the remarkable case of Margaret Hodge, a serial tax avoider, who sent "200 examples of anti-semitism from Labour members on twitter".
      Great for a headline, and a bit of publicity of course, but it turns out less than a dozen were actually affiliated to Labour  and all received censure.
      The other 190? Random twitter tw*ts she threw in just to get the numbers up.

      Umunna himself recently tried to bypass, then sabotage his own CLP because he had received notice of a VoNC.
      That didn't work, so he jumped ship.

      Tehn I suppose we could talk about the "Israeli spy" since deported who had a bag full of cash (a million quid or so) to bribe Labour MP's and SPADs into briefing the media on "anti semitism in Labour".
      Pity someone filmed him doing it though, and an even bigger pity that it barely got a mention in the press.

      The really funny thing is that people who never gave a sh*t about Jewish people in their whole lives now profess great concern over this manufactured smear campaign.

      If you want to see endemic racism in a political party, look no further than the Tories and UKIP.

      Of course there are a small number of arseholes and conspiracy theorists who gob off a lot on social media, but even their posts amount to less than 0.1% of posts by Labour members.
      hmm, yes, a "real" problem.

      Forgot to add this earlier.
      Not that anyone will read it, being so focused on their own agenda.

      https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/blog/antisemitism-no-justification-for-singling-out-labour/?fbclid=IwAR3N6RrFzHJQaAaizTuxdq-KozTbET8JArkiBBJCXOhot_OcfTNUwKI9CU8
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      Reply #47: Feb 19, 2019 05:13:35 pm
      yeah, you might try doing a bit of research before gobbing off.

      Try looking at the links between Umunna and Lord Sainsbury, who was Blairs backer since the 1990's.
      Try looking at where the funding for "Progress" comes from, and that's just his most famous "think tank" then remember this is the same bloke who spoke about "a party within a party" while taking backhanders.

      Try looking at the financing of his new "group" which hasn't registered as a political party and is using a private company called "Gemini A Ltd" to funnel donations and keep donors secret, which they can do thanks to not registering as a political party.
      It was formed in January by Shuker (another one of the 7) solely for use as a vehicle for donors money, not to mention the fact that their website privacy provider is registered in panama.

      So before gobbing off about "character assassinations", look at the f**king facts.

      The whole point is that you whinge endlessly about corbyn's treatment in the press and what you call the msm. Yet any dissenting voices are subjected to the same hysterical rush to deselect them, question their personality , character and motives. What a f**king shower of hypocrites. 
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      Reply #48: Feb 19, 2019 07:18:59 pm
      The whole point is that you whinge endlessly about corbyn's treatment in the press and what you call the msm. Yet any dissenting voices are subjected to the same hysterical rush to deselect them, question their personality , character and motives. What a f**king shower of hypocrites.

      Nope.

      Deselection is always a last resort, following months of talks, appeals and requests.
      It is only ever used when someone continually undermines the party and the manifesto they agreed to when they stood for election.

      The fact that you (yet again) ignore factual evidence (like the LSE report on media bias) shows you don't care about truth or learning anything about processes and procedures in the Labour party.

      The fact is, Umunna's shady dealings with Lord Sainsbury, where he "earns" a sh*t ton of money heading at least 2 "think tanks" that are dedicated to working against the Party Leader and the manifesto Umunna agreed to means he would have been ripped to shreds and his frontline political career destroyed.
      As yesterday showed, he has no qualms about circumventing the law by setting up a shell company to funnel money through in order to hide where it came from.

      So I'll say again, you could read, learn and understand what really goes on, or you can ignore facts in favour of being shouty on the internet.

      I'm pretty sure I know which one you'll choose.
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      Re: Feb News Stories, 2019
      Reply #49: Feb 19, 2019 07:33:43 pm
      Nope.

      Deselection is always a last resort, following months of talks, appeals and requests.
      It is only ever used when someone continually undermines the party and the manifesto they agreed to when they stood for election.

      The fact that you (yet again) ignore factual evidence (like the LSE report on media bias) shows you don't care about truth or learning anything about processes and procedures in the Labour party.

      The fact is, Umunna's shady dealings with Lord Sainsbury, where he "earns" a sh*t ton of money heading at least 2 "think tanks" that are dedicated to working against the Party Leader and the manifesto Umunna agreed to means he would have been ripped to shreds and his frontline political career destroyed.
      As yesterday showed, he has no qualms about circumventing the law by setting up a shell company to funnel money through in order to hide where it came from.

      So I'll say again, you could read, learn and understand what really goes on, or you can ignore facts in favour of being shouty on the internet.

      I'm pretty sure I know which one you'll choose.

      You really are like a broken record aren't you.i could learn and read about what's really going on or listen and read your endless pro corbyn mantra, where any criticism is dismissed as smears but you can dig out all sort of nonsense that suits your agenda. Shouty on the internet.nah that's you with your head stuck up your ass. Cheerio and say hello to degsy hatton for me.

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