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      West Ham United 1-1 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #30: Feb 04, 2019 07:17:26 pm
      I'd have been tempted to play Camacho RB to sure up that midfield. The knock on effect the RB situation has had on the midfield cannot be over stated. Rather see Milner there than one of Keita or Lallana. Looks a bit soft for an away game.
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #31: Feb 04, 2019 07:20:02 pm
      Love the line up technically our best midfield but they have never played together before.

      F**k it just unleash Lallana and Keita to press the f**k out of the Hammers.

      No sure about that. Keita technically inferior to Gini in my view, who is in the words of the previous manager a 'real tachnician'.
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #32: Feb 04, 2019 07:20:43 pm
      I'd have been tempted to play Camacho RB to sure up that midfield. The knock on effect the RB situation has had on the midfield cannot be over stated. Rather see Milner there than one of Keita or Lallana. Looks a bit soft for an away game.

      I entirely agree and don't understand why Jürgen isn't doing that. If not at an injury ravaged, inconsistent West Ham, then when?
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #33: Feb 04, 2019 07:21:27 pm
      Im getting a bit annoyed. In the midst of a title race and players are missing games with a 'slight muscle issue' and a 'sore knee'

      I know these lads are highly tuned athletes for ffs ....

      Im probably just stuck in the 80s when players did not want to give up their place. Time to get with the modern times.

      Injuries biting as hard as the cold now. Desperately need these points tonight.
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #34: Feb 04, 2019 07:23:25 pm
      I'd have been tempted to play Camacho RB to sure up that midfield. The knock on effect the RB situation has had on the midfield cannot be over stated. Rather see Milner there than one of Keita or Lallana. Looks a bit soft for an away game.

      Agreed actually. Milly in midfield would be a much better option than Lallana. Think Camacho could have filled in quite well, he’s around the age Trent was when he got regular games, this could have been a good opportunity for him.
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #35: Feb 04, 2019 07:24:22 pm
      City have had injuries to players; De Bruyne, Aguero, Mendy.

      Now we have to cope with ours. I'd take a 0-4 now.
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #36: Feb 04, 2019 07:25:19 pm
      No sure about that. Keita technically inferior to Gini in my view, who is in the words of the previous manager a 'real tachnician'.

      Yeah ok  :roll:
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #37: Feb 04, 2019 07:27:51 pm
      Team is what it is all things have to be dealt with cmon you red men three points please .
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #38: Feb 04, 2019 07:28:01 pm
      Im getting a bit annoyed. In the midst of a title race and players are missing games with a 'slight muscle issue' and a 'sore knee'

      I know these lads are highly tuned athletes for ffs ....

      Im probably just stuck in the 80s when players did not want to give up their place. Time to get with the modern times.

      Injuries biting as hard as the cold now. Desperately need these points tonight.

      Bulk of players aren’t like they used to be. Look at Gerrard in the season we finished 2nd with BR, he was literally playing through pain near enough every game, loading himself up with injections and doing everything in his power to play. As much as Hendo has improved of late, I dont think a sore knee would have come even close to keeping our last skipper from playing at a time like this.
      Klopp made a reference to some players needing to essentially man up a bit where it comes to knocks, couple of years ago I think. Maybe he needs to bring that speech out again because it seems the slightest knock is keeping the same players out time and again - Hendo, Lovren and Lallana largely. Look at Trent playing through the 90mins vs Brighton with an injury.
      Some players you know will battle through the pain barrier but some you know won’t even attempt it.
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #39: Feb 04, 2019 07:29:12 pm
      I'd have been tempted to play Camacho RB to sure up that midfield. The knock on effect the RB situation has had on the midfield cannot be over stated. Rather see Milner there than one of Keita or Lallana. Looks a bit soft for an away game.

      Klopp is not going to expose the lad in a game like this. He has a big future but Klopp knows how to develop him. He'll get opportunities.
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #40: Feb 04, 2019 07:32:14 pm
      Bulk of players aren’t like they used to be. Look at Gerrard in the season we finished 2nd with BR, he was literally playing through pain near enough every game, loading himself up with injections and doing everything in his power to play. As much as Hendo has improved of late, I dont think a sore knee would have come even close to keeping our last skipper from playing at a time like this.
      Klopp made a reference to some players needing to essentially man up a bit where it comes to knocks, couple of years ago I think. Maybe he needs to bring that speech out again because it seems the slightest knock is keeping the same players out time and again - Hendo, Lovren and Lallana largely. Look at Trent playing through the 90mins vs Brighton with an injury.
      Some players you know will battle through the pain barrier but some you know won’t even attempt it.

      Bit of an allegation there. Do you think pressure is getting to them and they are picking up "knocks"....
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #41: Feb 04, 2019 07:33:54 pm
      City have had injuries to players; De Bruyne, Aguero, Mendy.

      Now we have to cope with ours. I'd take a 0-4 now.

      City have better squad options.
      Hopefully losing Wijnaldum doesn't make it wide open in midfield, but glad to see Fabinho in there.
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #42: Feb 04, 2019 07:35:20 pm
      Chickens coming home to roost. Enjoy guys, off to find those nails
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #43: Feb 04, 2019 07:36:45 pm
      I'm confident that we will see a hungry Reds and they need to be like that to be honest.
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #44: Feb 04, 2019 07:37:29 pm
      Given all the headlines.. probably the pressure got to Henderson, Wini, Lovren.. was the reason why we struggled in the snow at Anfield.. and probably will be the reason if we don't win tonight.  :roll:

      Going to be a tough game this. 3 points will be huge.
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #45: Feb 04, 2019 07:39:24 pm
      Anderson v Milner is probably something they will look to exploit, let’s hope Jimmy gets plenty of support.

      Otherwise that midfield of West Ham we really ought to be giving them the run around.
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #46: Feb 04, 2019 07:39:31 pm
      I sense a lack of control in midfield without Gini. Prove everyone wrong tonight Keita, please.
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #47: Feb 04, 2019 07:39:35 pm
      Bit of an allegation there. Do you think pressure is getting to them and they are picking up "knocks"....

      It’s not an allegation and I don’t think it’s down to pressure, I think having a manager like Klopp actually takes so much pressure away from the team because of how he handles situations, interviews etc.
      It’s more a noticing of how any slight knock, the same players are missing on a regular basis. I think for as good as our management is, our coaching staff are and our scouts are etc, our medical department is shocking, how can they get to so long after Gomez initially fracturing his leg before they realise surgery is what he needs?! I’m guessing it’s the medical department of the club that are ruling these players out of games with any slight knock. But then at the same time, you get some players who will insist they are ok to play and others who just accept it and put their feet up for a game.

      Are people seriously suggesting that players are pulling out of these little knocks because of pressure ?!?

      I’m not, hopefully you haven’t gotten that impression from what I initially said.
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      Reply #48: Feb 04, 2019 07:39:36 pm
      Good luck to Lallana, must be his first start in a while. Thought he looked OK when on as a sub, chance for him to show more now.
      Lot of responsibility on Fab, with Lallana not having much time under his belt, and Naby not fully firing recently.
      Need the front three to do their stuff, work hard and close guys down - should also have a bit more space to work in than if this had been at Anfield.
      Can see us getting goals. Looking forward to it ...
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      Reply #49: Feb 04, 2019 07:39:56 pm
      Are people seriously suggesting that players are pulling out of these little knocks because of pressure ?!?

      Klopps statement about playing with pain etc was aimed at Sturridge

      We are coming into a key period of the season now - he won’t risk players that aren’t 100% fit
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #50: Feb 04, 2019 07:41:30 pm
      I think having Keita and Fabinho behind, Lallana will be forced to be more positive/creative. Very interesting to see how this will work out!
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      Reply #51: Feb 04, 2019 07:41:51 pm
      Are people seriously suggesting that players are pulling out of these little knocks because of pressure ?!?

      Klopps statement about playing with pain etc was aimed at Sturridge

      We are coming into a key period of the season now - he won’t risk players that aren’t 100% fit

      What f**king idiots are suggesting that?
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #52: Feb 04, 2019 07:42:30 pm
      We cannot afford Keita and Lallana to be passengers here, best performance of the season needed from Keita at a minimum and Lallana needs to find the form of 2 years ago which will be hard coming off a long layoff.

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      Reply #53: Feb 04, 2019 07:42:55 pm
      Given all the headlines.. probably the pressure got to Henderson, Wini, Lovren.. was the reason why we struggled in the snow at Anfield.. and probably will be the reason if we don't win tonight.  :roll:

      Going to be a tough game this. 3 points will be huge.

      If your saying they haven't got the bottle...then say so. I think the injuries are genuine. Because if there's even a slight element of truth in what you say then we have serious problems.

      I think this line you have spun is OOT. Players get injured more in slippery surfaces. 7-10 day knocks, the snowy slippery surface was to blame...either that or they have a dose..
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #54: Feb 04, 2019 07:43:51 pm
      I'd have been tempted to play Camacho RB to sure up that midfield. The knock on effect the RB situation has had on the midfield cannot be over stated.

      Got a lot of sympathy for that point of view.  Can definitely see the logic in it.

      Fingers crossed it all works out for tonight.
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      Reply #55: Feb 04, 2019 07:44:46 pm
      A lot of people been writing Lallana off this season, but if he's fit he can still be a very good player for us. Could really do with Kieta stepping up in this game. Pressure on them both, but I actually think fundamentally that is a good midfield - just about fitness and form for those 2, but they are good players.

      Fancy us to win. Let's see us really hit them hard with the gegenpress from the off. COYR.
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      Reply #56: Feb 04, 2019 07:45:49 pm
      We cannot afford Keita and Lallana to be passengers here, best performance of the season needed from Keita at a minimum and Lallana needs to find the form of 2 years ago which will be hard coming off a long layoff.



      Bench is a bit thin too, so yeah, need them to stump up and hopefully they will
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      Reply #57: Feb 04, 2019 07:46:11 pm
      Bulk of players aren’t like they used to be. Look at Gerrard in the season we finished 2nd with BR, he was literally playing through pain near enough every game, loading himself up with injections and doing everything in his power to play. As much as Hendo has improved of late, I dont think a sore knee would have come even close to keeping our last skipper from playing at a time like this.
      Klopp made a reference to some players needing to essentially man up a bit where it comes to knocks, couple of years ago I think. Maybe he needs to bring that speech out again because it seems the slightest knock is keeping the same players out time and again - Hendo, Lovren and Lallana largely. Look at Trent playing through the 90mins vs Brighton with an injury.
      Some players you know will battle through the pain barrier but some you know won’t even attempt it.

      Yes Trent played through 90 mins of pain but as a result we lost him for 4 important games.
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #58: Feb 04, 2019 07:46:40 pm
      since dubai all injures and illness come up...
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      Re: Live: West Ham v Liverpool
      Reply #59: Feb 04, 2019 07:47:18 pm
      Mane could be our match winner. I like the lad, he gives everything, doesn't hide, got a strong shot left or right. 1-3 Mane 2 and Salah with the goals.

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