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      Costly Draws - lesson from 2009

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      Re: Costly Draws - lesson from 2009
      Reply #25: May 07, 2019 12:41:12 pm
      None of ours draws were disasters, they were all against teams who played well while we had slightly off days, the only one that bugs me is the draw to Man Utd when they lost half their team and had Rashford limping around the pitch. We should have gone into full battle mode in that game and attacked relentlessly but for whatever reason we became very passive as if we had already decided to play tight that game and couldn't manage to get out of that mindset. This wasn't helped by having big defensive issues at that time and if I recall our midfield was also set up very negative in that game, which changed afterwards for the remaining games.

      I agree with this. the Manu game was one of the most frustrating games ever, they were there for the taking, all the stop starts ruined that game.
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      Re: Costly Draws - lesson from 2009
      Reply #26: May 07, 2019 02:07:47 pm
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      There is one more glimmer of hope on Saturday but it is gut wrenching to think that it was there, we had it, in our hands for us to lose....and lost it.

      The league will be won by either side this weekend, not lost. Last year, City needed 82 points to win the league. This year, they will need 98.

      City have had their fate in their own hands since early March and have taken advantage of it to date, while we've been sitting there waiting and waiting and waiting for a break. It hasn't come yet, even though we've done everything asked of us in every game since. Whether we win this fight or not, fans should be proud of this team and club this season. Everyone back in August, said we had no chance, let alone take it to the wire.

      Unlike the final game in 2009, we can still win the league on the final day this year. And I would fancy Brighton's chances more than I did West Ham's when it was their chance to help win the title for us 5 years ago. They have already beaten the mancs and made life very difficult for us and the rest of the top 6, in their own ground this season. Lewis Dunk can seal his own place in Anfield folklore if he can do the job at the weekend, without playing a game for us.

      We may not bring home the trophy this year, but we've won a lot more admiration and respect for our efforts from even the harshest anti-Liverpool critics and pundits. They certainly will be slower to write us off next season.
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      Re: Costly Draws - lesson from 2009
      Reply #27: May 16, 2019 11:58:39 pm
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      Important to remember that we were 7 clear just prior to playing City and obviously that then dropped to 4 points very quickly with the loss at the Etihad. But you’re right that we didn’t seem so comfortable being ahead. Our form since we were back to chasing has been incredible with 8 wins on the bounce. The fact we have taken it to the last game of the season and responded so well to the pressure should stand the lads in good stead next season should they be involved in another title race.

      As for the comparison to 08-09 it doesn’t quite stand up. We’re on the brink of a 97 point season, a points tally that would have won 118 of the last 119 league seasons. Unfortunately we’re up against the best domestic side of the Premier League era and if they win on Sunday that will be 198 points for two seasons work. Ridiculous.

      The 7 points lasted one game, not even a week. We lost 1 game in the time we led the league, while City lost 4 games in the same period, i.e. 0/12 points. So who coped better with the challenge?

      I don't know when we lost the league, it's difficult to say a team with 97 points has lost anything. We did everything we could to win it, while leading and chasing, unfortunately nobody else had the will to help us out. We needed just one break in the last two months. They didn't even have to win their games, just one draw was enough. Some of the bastrds were knocking in 3s and 4s either side of playing City, yet just downed tools as soon as they saw a blue shirt marked "Etihad" near them. They know who they are, they're a disgrace to themselves and the league in general.

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      Re: Costly Draws - lesson from 2009
      Reply #28: May 17, 2019 12:08:20 pm
      So with the ffp scandal currently going on with City and UEFA, the FA also police this. City may be banned from CL for a season, but what of the Prem. If they were deducted points for their cheating the system, and we were handed the title retrospectively, would that detract from the fact we had won it fairly, do you think we would deserve it, or do you think it would be a tainted trophy ?
      Your opinions please !
      Personally I’d accept it as No. 19, but wouldn’t be doing cartwheels over it, and probably wouldn’t celebrate it at all.
      The Prem has now clearly become tainted by the financial dopeing of city.
      Even with all that wealth available, they just couldn’t wait to build from it, they had to get it all NOW, and bring dishonour to the greatest show on earth.
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      Re: Costly Draws - lesson from 2009
      Reply #29: May 17, 2019 12:21:56 pm
      The 7 points lasted one game, not even a week. We lost 1 game in the time we led the league, while City lost 4 games in the same period, i.e. 0/12 points. So who coped better with the challenge?

      I don't know when we lost the league, it's difficult to say a team with 97 points has lost anything. We did everything we could to win it, while leading and chasing, unfortunately nobody else had the will to help us out. We needed just one break in the last two months. They didn't even have to win their games, just one draw was enough. Some of the bastrds were knocking in 3s and 4s either side of playing City, yet just downed tools as soon as they saw a blue shirt marked "Etihad" near them. They know who they are, they're a disgrace to themselves and the league in general.

      Rant over.

      Agree, it was embarrassing how some teams played against them. With us, you could see every team was up for it and ready to fight, but against that lot, nothing.
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      Re: Costly Draws - lesson from 2009
      Reply #30: May 17, 2019 12:30:15 pm
      97 points.
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      Re: Costly Draws - lesson from 2009
      Reply #31: May 17, 2019 03:18:14 pm
      I was interested in Klopps comment in yesterday's Echo about past Liverpool teams being strong but then hurting themselves by buying players from all over (presumably he means who were not good enough or who disrupted the squad).

      Expected only very targeted buys this summer. I'll sleep the morning after we beat Spurs and then wake me for the first preseason match to see what has changed.
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      Re: Costly Draws - lesson from 2009
      Reply #32: May 17, 2019 09:15:28 pm
      It's all very well talking about draws that could've been wins, but there were a lot of wins that could've been draws or defeats.

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