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      beardo number 7
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      Re: The title race: Call it
      Reply #125: Feb 11, 2019 03:38:50 pm
      Yeah as long as we get something from the Utd game I think we will be fine.
      Another factor with City that can not be ignored is they are stil in the two Cups and CL, anc fatigue towards the end of the season can not be ruled out.

      In fact a good kicking on the cow patch on the weekend for City would be a good start.

      I also think we will see more agressive pressing from our us, I think Klopp has purposely been holding back so we have enough fuel in the tank for the run in.

      Do I think we can do it of course, do I expect us to win it in a two horse race No.
      Bit stupid to expect to win in a 50:50 race!

      Said Klopp was holding them back a few months ago,let’s hope we go at every team now like we did last season and last Saturday against Bournemouth. Hassling and harrying the life out of every opponent now 😊
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      Reply #126: Feb 11, 2019 04:12:55 pm
      Man City is much much better than us. Their squad depth is frightening. They can replace one of their starters by Silva (x2) and Sane ! We have Shaqiri, Sturridge and Lallana...

      We're the underdogs, unfortunately Klopp did not do what it takes to put us in a more comfortable position when we could have easily.

      Yes I blame him, he's the manager.  Everyone makes mistakes but make 2 consecutive and same mistakes when you're challenging for something, you only have yourself to blame.
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      Reply #127: Feb 11, 2019 04:40:28 pm
      Man City is much much better than us. Their squad depth is frightening. They can replace one of their starters by Silva (x2) and Sane ! We have Shaqiri, Sturridge and Lallana...

      We're the underdogs, unfortunately Klopp did not do what it takes to put us in a more comfortable position when we could have easily.

      Yes I blame him, he's the manager.  Everyone makes mistakes but make 2 consecutive and same mistakes when you're challenging for something, you only have yourself to blame.

      Think the fact that we're level with a game in hand on a team that most everyone accepts is exceptionally strong says a lot about the job Jürgen has done.
      And the title race and the CL aren't over yet, we're still in there fighting for both :)
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      Re: The title race: Call it
      Reply #128: Feb 11, 2019 04:42:22 pm
      Man City is much much better than us. Their squad depth is frightening. They can replace one of their starters by Silva (x2) and Sane ! We have Shaqiri, Sturridge and Lallana...

      We're the underdogs, unfortunately Klopp did not do what it takes to put us in a more comfortable position when we could have easily.

      Yes I blame him, he's the manager.  Everyone makes mistakes but make 2 consecutive and same mistakes when you're challenging for something, you only have yourself to blame.

      Who put us in the position to challenge?
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      Reply #129: Feb 11, 2019 04:54:25 pm
      Man City is much much better than us. Their squad depth is frightening. They can replace one of their starters by Silva (x2) and Sane ! We have Shaqiri, Sturridge and Lallana...

      We're the underdogs, unfortunately Klopp did not do what it takes to put us in a more comfortable position when we could have easily.

      Yes I blame him, he's the manager.  Everyone makes mistakes but make 2 consecutive and same mistakes when you're challenging for something, you only have yourself to blame.

      Given how the standings are 70% into the season not sure how you can say they are "much much better" than us. They are, however, very deep up front which certainly gives them an advantage. If one of our front 3 struggles or is fatigued, we don't have a like-for-like replacement to come off the bench. They do.

      And who knows wtf you mean by saying "Klopp did not do what it takes to put is in a more comfortable position". We played Leicester in horrid conditions that unfortunately ended in a draw and its not his fault that outside of maybe Mane, everyone had an atrocious game at West Ham. Their tying goal went 2 feet from Alisson who got caught leaning the wrong way but we played so poorly that even a draw feels like a point gained. Maybe that's Klopp's fault to you, but it was the same team who got us to this point and for some reason did not show up that day.
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      Reply #130: Feb 11, 2019 04:55:50 pm
      Looking at some posts in here it seems some are struggling to enjoy this scrap we’re having , I’m loving it we’re Goin head to head with one of the dearest squads ever assembled , and were still there punching it out , enjoy it fellow reds we’ve been wanting to be in a scrap for the title for a long time ,
      Bring it all on as long as they all give their best that will be fine with me , let them loose Jürgen . Reds on the March .
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      Reply #131: Feb 11, 2019 06:51:07 pm
      Man City is much much better than us. Their squad depth is frightening. They can replace one of their starters by Silva (x2) and Sane ! We have Shaqiri, Sturridge and Lallana...

      We're the underdogs, unfortunately Klopp did not do what it takes to put us in a more comfortable position when we could have easily.

      Yes I blame him, he's the manager.  Everyone makes mistakes but make 2 consecutive and same mistakes when you're challenging for something, you only have yourself to blame.


      Wow, you are a real ball of fun, Jeez can't you just enjoy where we are and the rollercoaster ride to come. Never mind about the half glass full analogy, yours must be completely empty with a hole in the bottom.
      C'mon fella just enjoy it.
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      Re: The title race: Call it
      Reply #132: Feb 11, 2019 07:04:01 pm
      Given how the standings are 70% into the season not sure how you can say they are "much much better" than us. They are, however, very deep up front which certainly gives them an advantage. If one of our front 3 struggles or is fatigued, we don't have a like-for-like replacement to come off the bench. They do.

      And who knows wtf you mean by saying "Klopp did not do what it takes to put is in a more comfortable position". We played Leicester in horrid conditions that unfortunately ended in a draw and its not his fault that outside of maybe Mane, everyone had an atrocious game at West Ham. Their tying goal went 2 feet from Alisson who got caught leaning the wrong way but we played so poorly that even a draw feels like a point gained. Maybe that's Klopp's fault to you, but it was the same team who got us to this point and for some reason did not show up that day.

      The main difference is the squad
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      Reply #133: Feb 11, 2019 07:11:09 pm
      City are stronger in the squad department so it’s going to be tough but hey you gotta be in it to win it! One thing for sure it’s gonna be exciting.
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      Reply #134: Feb 11, 2019 07:20:24 pm
      United away is huge. Go there and get the 3 points coupled with a big performance and it could propel us on with the momentum for the rest of the season. Even a draw there and we are still bang in it.

      The margin of error now really is small. Despite what the media believe though, City could yet drop more points. They’ve lost 4 times this season.

      Souness annyoyed me yesterday saying “Liverpool have got to win every game now to win the league” - well in fact Greame, no we don’t. We can still afford to draw a game and still win the league on the other hand City can win every game 6-0 and still not win it so I don’t really get what he’s trying to say there.

      Make no mistake, we are capable of going on a winning run and if we find our form at just the right time then nobody can stop us but ourselves. Up the Reds 🔴
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      Re: The title race: Call it
      Reply #135: Feb 11, 2019 08:19:09 pm
      Man City is much much better than us.

      Which is why the title is in our hands and not theirs is it? They need us to slip up, we don't need anything of the sort from them.

      Their squad depth is frightening.

      They've spent like a gazillion quid so they should have a squad that good. However, despite having a squad depth is "frightening" they are still relying on us slipping up - whereas we're not relying on them making yet another cock up.

      They can replace one of their starters by Silva (x2) and Sane ! We have Shaqiri, Sturridge and Lallana...

      The same Shaqiri who won us the game against United to help us putting the League in our own hands with 12 games to go or the same Sturridge who scored arguably our goal of the season to earn a point against Chelsea to help us putting the League in our own hands with 12 games to go?


      Why, when it's in our hands? Do our job and we win the League. Plain and f**king simple.

      unfortunately Klopp did not do what it takes to put us in a more comfortable position when we could have easily.

      What could be more comfortable than knowing if you win your games, you win the League. City know they can win every game from now until the end of the season and still fail to be champions. We don't have such feelings. We know if we win every game from now until the end of the season then we are guaranteed to be champions. That's quite a comfortable position for us to be in.

      Yes I blame him, he's the manager.  Everyone makes mistakes but make 2 consecutive and same mistakes when you're challenging for something, you only have yourself to blame.

      Blame him for what? Putting the League in our hands with 12 games remaining?

      Do you, by your own logic, blame Guardiola for making the same mistakes against Palace and Leicester in consecutive games?

      Honestly lad, your post was total bollocks.
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      Reply #136: Feb 11, 2019 09:08:42 pm
      1947..!!

      Blimey Billy you have seen it all then....!

      I have seen the highs and lows like winning the league,European cups and getting relegated to the old second division and winning the 2nd division with our master manager Mr William Shankly. Winning the F.A.Cup for the first time in 1965.One of my most painful memories was listening to the 1950 Cup final against Arsenal on the radio (no tele those days) and the bas**rds beating us 2-0.I so want us to win the league this year it is long overdue for a club of Liverpool's standing.That 1950 cup final was the one which saw Bob Paisley get dropped after scoring against Everton in the semi Final.Most supporters at the time reckoned if Bob had played the result would of been different.
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      Reply #137: Feb 11, 2019 09:21:41 pm
      Man City is much much better than us. Their squad depth is frightening. They can replace one of their starters by Silva (x2) and Sane ! We have Shaqiri, Sturridge and Lallana...

      We're the underdogs, unfortunately Klopp did not do what it takes to put us in a more comfortable position when we could have easily.

      Yes I blame him, he's the manager.  Everyone makes mistakes but make 2 consecutive and same mistakes when you're challenging for something, you only have yourself to blame.

      Not your best work fella.

      Not anybody’s best work truth be told.

      First sentence is bollocks - look at the table.

      Second sentence utterly invalidates everything thereafter.



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      Reply #138: Feb 11, 2019 09:25:20 pm
      If my memory is not playing games I seem to recall us winning the old first division title on the last match of the season in 1947.So irrespective of what City do they better not try and claim the league title till we have kicked the last ball of the season. :kop5cf8koxp6: I have very fond memories of 1947 as it was the first year my Dad took me to Anfield.

      was it in black and white Bill.
      I think some on here are going to find it difficult to get through FEB but I think we turned a corner on Saturday because that is the performance we have been missing for a while now. The squad is almost back to full strength and well rested perfectly poised to have a real go now
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      Reply #139: Feb 11, 2019 09:38:47 pm
      Well we can still do it. City are favs and it be tough to win but we got a fighting chance. I can see us getting a draw at united if we got the win even better. Hopefully keep the squad fresh I cant believe there away to the sun again ;D. No more injuries please
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      Reply #140: Feb 11, 2019 09:51:24 pm
      Which is why the title is in our hands and not theirs is it? They need us to slip up, we don't need anything of the sort from them.

      They've spent like a gazillion quid so they should have a squad that good. However, despite having a squad depth is "frightening" they are still relying on us slipping up - whereas we're not relying on them making yet another cock up.

      The same Shaqiri who won us the game against United to help us putting the League in our own hands with 12 games to go or the same Sturridge who scored arguably our goal of the season to earn a point against Chelsea to help us putting the League in our own hands with 12 games to go?

      Why, when it's in our hands? Do our job and we win the League. Plain and f**king simple.

      What could be more comfortable than knowing if you win your games, you win the League. City know they can win every game from now until the end of the season and still fail to be champions. We don't have such feelings. We know if we win every game from now until the end of the season then we are guaranteed to be champions. That's quite a comfortable position for us to be in.

      Blame him for what? Putting the League in our hands with 12 games remaining?

      Do you, by your own logic, blame Guardiola for making the same mistakes against Palace and Leicester in consecutive games?

      Honestly lad, your post was total bollocks.

      Been looking through a lot of threads lately but couldn't seem to find you DLS.

      Here's where you've been hiding, dishing out your words of wisdom.

      Always knew what to say haha.
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      Reply #141: Feb 11, 2019 10:59:58 pm
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      Go there and get the 3 points coupled with a big performance and it could propel us on with the momentum for the rest of the season. Even a draw there and we are still bang in it.

      The margin of error now really is small. Despite what the media believe though, City could yet drop more points. They’ve lost 4 times this season.

      Souness annyoyed me yesterday saying “Liverpool have got to win every game now to win the league” - well in fact Greame, no we don’t. We can still afford to draw a game and still win the league on the other hand City can win every game 6-0 and still not win it so I don’t really get what he’s trying to say there.

      Make no mistake, we are capable of going on a winning run and if we find our form at just the right time then nobody can stop us but ourselves. Up the Reds 🔴

      We know what he's saying, what every other pundit has said since before Day 1. "City have the league won, and nobody else should show up and upset them".

      It's easy to get caught up in the hype about them, and obviously he has. It's not long ago since they told us how many points they would win it by, and the race would be officially over by February. The reality is they're not as good as they were last year, that's not an opinion, that's a fact.

      This is how Real Madrid fans felt when watching Barcelona dominate all those years. The depressing reality that most teams give up against City before ko and lie down as soon as the game starts. The key to taking points off City is to not lose the plot early on. If you can stay in the game, preferably until half time, you stand a good chance of getting a good result. It sounds obvious, but they try to kill games in the first 20 minutes, and when they're 4 up by then, you may as well do what the pundits suggest and just go home. We got the same treatment last year, after Moss did what Moss does and got himself in the headlines again. Every other time against them, we've shown we're more than capable of being a match for City, despite who is on their bench.

      It's still in our hands, but there's too many games left to expect to win them all. Then again, we don't have to, and I don't think they'll win all their games either. It will be like the games themselves between the sides. Ding ding, rollercoaster football at the very highest level. As fans this is what we want, and everyone should enjoy it. We don't have to look too far down the road to find clubs with their season over already.
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      Reply #142: Feb 11, 2019 11:03:40 pm
      I would happily have us get thrashed by Bayern in the CL if it meant that we had more productive time to focus on the league.
      I would happily have city got deep in the CL and even win the thing if it meant they were so spread out in terms of their focus.
      All I want is for us to remain competitive and push this battle for the league title till the very last moment.
      To not to be overwhelmed, be nervous, to not enjoy this challenge because if we do that, which ever team wins the title will truly deserve it.
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      Reply #143: Feb 12, 2019 06:12:55 am
      I have seen the highs and lows like winning the league,European cups and getting relegated to the old second division and winning the 2nd division with our master manager Mr William Shankly. Winning the F.A.Cup for the first time in 1965.One of my most painful memories was listening to the 1950 Cup final against Arsenal on the radio (no tele those days) and the bas**rds beating us 2-0.I so want us to win the league this year it is long overdue for a club of Liverpool's standing.That 1950 cup final was the one which saw Bob Paisley get dropped after scoring against Everton in the semi Final.Most supporters at the time reckoned if Bob had played the result would of been different.

      I have added a piece about the late great Bob Paisley.
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      Reply #144: Feb 12, 2019 08:53:20 am
      If the comments on this tweet are to be believed and our record after mid season warm weather camps of late are that bad then this is a little bit of a concern for me.

      It also indicates that it is going to be snowing next week in Liverpool.
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      Reply #145: Feb 12, 2019 09:46:43 am
      We’re going win, simple.. no if’s or but’s..

      City have to go in every game under pressure to perform & that pressure will cause a crack.. just wait till the CL starts..
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      Reply #146: Feb 12, 2019 10:23:58 am
      I would happily have us get thrashed by Bayern in the CL if it meant that we had more productive time to focus on the league.
      I would happily have city got deep in the CL and even win the thing if it meant they were so spread out in terms of their focus.
      All I want is for us to remain competitive and push this battle for the league title till the very last moment.
      To not to be overwhelmed, be nervous, to not enjoy this challenge because if we do that, which ever team wins the title will truly deserve it.

      I hear what you are saying but I think a bit of a run in the CL for us will keep us sharp and focussed, I also think that the CL will cause Citeh to lose some focus as they will be more focussed on winning that for the first time than the league again.

      I am absolutely certain that Citeh will drop more points than us in the league run-in and Spurs's luck cannot hold much longer, they are by far the luckiest team in the league right now!
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      Reply #147: Feb 12, 2019 11:13:45 am
      The Bournemouth showed what we are capable of when we play the type of football we did last season... some here calm that it is a more defensive style that Klopp wanted us to play that we are where are now with a goal tally similar to last season and less goal score against us... That would be true "If" we had the same players we had last season We now have VVD, and Allison in the back line. We control the game more and have more possession, but were we have lost out in a big way is in attack...

      We now build up so slow that it effects the way players like Firmino and Salah play... What was noticeable about the Bournemouth game was the speed of billed up similar to last season, and how we moved the ball allowing us to open up their defense.

      Yes it was Bournemouth, a team which everyone not being a Bournemouth supporter knew we would win, but if we play in the style the rest of the season that we did against Bournemouth  we will be hard pressed to drop points the rest of this season, but not dropping points may not be enough. Said it here before; City have the bit between their teeth and we need Utd and Spurs to do use a real favor, or we do it for ourselves (My preferred choice) and win every game going forward til the end of the season...
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      Reply #148: Feb 13, 2019 08:39:56 am
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      I would happily have us get thrashed by Bayern in the CL if it meant that we had more productive time to focus on the league.
      I would happily have city got deep in the CL and even win the thing if it meant they were so spread out in terms of their focus.
      All I want is for us to remain competitive and push this battle for the league title till the very last moment.

      We sweated blood last season to get back into that tournament now. Sorry I'm not willing to throw that hard won place away just to concentrate on the league. Putting all our eggs in one basket has not worked at this club for the past 20 years. It didn't work in 2009, it didn't work in 2014, it won't work now. We need a trophy, anything right now, just to experience what it's like to be winners again.
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      Reply #149: Feb 13, 2019 09:20:08 am
      but if we play in the style the rest of the season that we did against Bournemouth  we will be hard pressed to drop points the rest of this season, but not dropping points may not be enough.
      Eerrrmmm...... yes it will!  If we don't drop any points the rest of the season, we're champions!!

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