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      Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion

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      Harrisimo
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #500: Feb 19, 2019 10:36:36 pm
      Glad he was honest about our performance.

      I said as much at half time, but we were much better 2nd half.

      Last 15-18 in the first half wasn't to bad. But we just didn't get to grips with them.They passed and passed the urgency out of the game. Their movement and passing in their own half killed any momentum we tried to build up.

      They sat so deep and passed it.The suspicion is their defence could be vulnerable to pacy counter attacks. They dropped deep, held their position and passed it. We had absolutely no chance  to get in behind them. We will have that chance when they come out and try and attack US.

      At their place we have to use our pace, try and steel it and release Salah or Mane. Keita also has to release it quicker and support higher when we attack.Not without a chance but as I said we have to improve.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #501: Feb 19, 2019 10:43:01 pm
      Gone for Fabinho for MOTM for some one not playing in his natural position he was very good

      here here..

      Got my vote as well. Wasn't many candidates TBH. Few went for Hendo but he competent, not much more. Wasn't alone but BM did a number on us.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #502: Feb 19, 2019 10:46:18 pm
      Just left the ground pretty frustrating game but they got what they came for. Just wish we would have pulled the trigger more often and turned their two CBs more often so lax with ball over top Hummels and Sule not tested enough
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #503: Feb 19, 2019 10:47:48 pm
      If we are to progress and become Champions we need to go to places like Munich and get a result because that's what Champions do and we can do it.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #504: Feb 19, 2019 10:50:09 pm
      Last 15-18 in the first half wasn't to bad. But we just didn't get to grips with them.They passed and passed the urgency out of the game. Their movement and passing in their own half killed any momentum we tried to build up.

      They sat so deep and passed it.The suspicion is their defence could be vulnerable to pacy counter attacks. They dropped deep, held their position and passed it. We had absolutely no chance  to get in behind them. We will have that chance when they come out and try and attack US.

      At their place we have to use our pace, try and steel it and release Salah or Mane. Keita also has to release it quicker and support higher when we attack.Not without a chance but as I said we have to improve.

      Agree with that.

      One frustration of mine is our hesitation to shoot. We seem to always want to pass the ball into the net. In one example, Salah went running along into the box, ignoring chances to shoot, and even Gini didn't take the ball from him to shoot either.

      We also tend to do it the same way all the time. We are so used to the front three, that when changes are made, we seem hesitant to use them. Origi was storming forward, but Mane totally blanked him, and subsequently lost the ball.

      No doubt stronger when we move at speed, but part of that is making the right choice. We've been poor away from home in the tournament, but no reason we can't get the job done now.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #505: Feb 19, 2019 10:51:08 pm
      That's unrealistic, but once in a while - especially against top dogs - we should play with urgency. We did it against Napoli, we didn't today. I suspect Klopp behind this. He may find that our defense was not up for that because remember: when you press like Dr. Jekyill there will be fast breaks for the opponent and you need state of the art CB's we didn't have tonight.

      It's difficult to play with momentum and urgency when a quality team sit so deep and play keep ball.Which they did brilliantly. As we tried to press them their movement and first time passing was excellent. Chances were always at a premium and if you don't take them (Mane Ist half) then it becomes a struggle.

      Bayern looked very well rehearsed and stuck to their game plan. Quality team will take some beating at their own place but we will have a better chance to actually get in behind them.
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      Reply #506: Feb 19, 2019 10:55:34 pm
      Agree with that.

      One frustration of mine is our hesitation to shoot. We seem to always want to pass the ball into the net. In one example, Salah went running along into the box, ignoring chances to shoot, and even Gini didn't take the ball from him to shoot either.

      We also tend to do it the same way all the time. We are so used to the front three, that when changes are made, we seem hesitant to use them. Origi was storming forward, but Mane totally blanked him, and subsequently lost the ball.

      No doubt stronger when we move at speed, but part of that is making the right choice. We've been poor away from home in the tournament, but no reason we can't get the job done now.

      And we haven't done much shooting all season. Tonight on a wet pitch a few long shots might have had a sniff but they crowded Salah out. They did a number on us and we didn't have the combination to unlock them. The puzzle might be easier away from home
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #507: Feb 19, 2019 10:58:25 pm
      And we haven't done much shooting all season. Tonight on a wet pitch a few long shots might have had a sniff but they crowded Salah out. They did a number on us and we didn't have the combination to unlock them. The puzzle might be easier away from home

      Thinking about unlocking them, an obvious solution would have been to bring on Shaqiri but the fact he didn't come speaks volumes to me and i think that Klopp actually didn't want to take the chance of us conceding an away goal.

      We need to trust Klopp and his plan, i think he fancies us to go over there and do a job!
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #508: Feb 19, 2019 11:02:35 pm
      here here..

      Got my vote as well. Wasn't many candidates TBH. Few went for Hendo but he competent, not much more. Wasn't alone but BM did a number on us.

      Watched a different game then or just didn’t understand what you were watching.

      Henderson was the best player on the park. By a distance.

      Fab did pretty well - couple of outstanding challenges. Look forward to seeing them both in midfield.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #509: Feb 19, 2019 11:06:08 pm
      Thinking about unlocking them, an obvious solution would have been to bring on Shaqiri but the fact he didn't come speaks volumes to me and i think that Klopp actually didn't want to take the chance of us conceding an away goal.

      We need to trust Klopp and his plan, i think he fancies us to go over there and do a job!

      The suspicion is Shaq is not the defending type. Milner yes, but I would've gambled on Sturridge. We couldn't get at them and Sturridge does have a worldie in his locker. Origi is a bit more predictable. But it's not over till it's over.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #510: Feb 19, 2019 11:08:48 pm
      Watched a different game then or just didn’t understand what you were watching.

      Henderson was the best player on the park. By a distance.

      Fab did pretty well - couple of outstanding challenges. Look forward to seeing them both in midfield.

      No he wasn't and it was 0-0 by the way. Very often he didn't make himself available to take it from Fab and move it forward. He did OK but he was not outstanding...none of them were. And may be you were influenced by other posters rather than the evidence of the actual game.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #511: Feb 19, 2019 11:12:59 pm
      No he wasn't and it was 0-0 by the way. Very often he didn't make himself available to take it from Fab and move it forward. He did OK but he was not outstanding...none of them were. And may be you were influenced by other posters rather than the evidence of the actual game.

      No I was influenced by what I watched.

      Not what I pre-determined - like you ;)

      However I will concede that what I watched is backed up by pretty much every decent observer across twitter and other platforms.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #512: Feb 19, 2019 11:14:14 pm
      Not usually pleased with a draw but honestly without either of our starting CB’s you can’t ask for a whole lot more considering the changes we had but couldn’t convert. Should be a different story in the return leg. Our goals count much more than theirs will and the pressure will be on them.

      Henderson was fantastic tonight.
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      Reply #513: Feb 19, 2019 11:18:22 pm
      No I was evidenced by what I watched.

      Not what I pre-determined - like you ;)

      I see you don't dispute the Hendo assessment then. He did OK. I like him more as a playmaker. He's OK as holding player and he's OK a bit further up. He has more average games than any LFC player of the last 25 years.

      That's not necessarily a criticism because his game is about consistency.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #514: Feb 19, 2019 11:19:21 pm
      Surely next season Jürgen is looking to give himself real options off the bench in the forward areas.

      I know Origi scores against Everton and Sturridge against Chelsea. I know Shaq got 2 against United.

      But still Klopp is rightly reluctantly to change things even when the front 3 are misfiring.

      I don't think in this day and age your bench needs to be filled with players that are past it or players that never had it.

      A bench should be pushing the front 3 for places in the side and Origi and Sturridge certainly are not.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #515: Feb 19, 2019 11:20:56 pm
      I see you don't dispute the Hendo assessment then. He did OK. I like him more as a playmaker. He's OK as holding player and he's OK a bit further up. He has more average games than any LFC player of the last 25 years.

      That's not necessarily a criticism because his game is about consistency.

      Other than in the previous post where I said he was the best player on the park?

      Have a day off - it’s boring as f**k and you’re just spouting self satisfying hyperbole now as “opinion ballast”.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #516: Feb 19, 2019 11:25:09 pm
      I’ve not read through this thread but personally I’m quite content with tonight. No away goals for them, no injuries for us, Kimmich suspended for them, Robertson avoided suspension and VVD to come in for the second leg.

      And who knows, when we travel to Germany in 3 weeks time we might even have this man in contention.



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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #517: Feb 19, 2019 11:25:21 pm
      Not usually pleased with a draw but honestly without either of our starting CB’s you can’t ask for a whole lot more considering the changes we had but couldn’t convert. Should be a different story in the return leg. Our goals count much more than theirs will and the pressure will be on them.

      Henderson was fantastic tonight.

      Injuries and Illness have knocked us back a bit.One or two not quite hitting the high notes. Henderson did Ok. If you point out 2/3 passes that showed how great he was I'll concede. He was his usual consistent self. And that's what you get from Henderson.

      I went for Fabinho, playing out of position against a quality team. He did well and is a valuable asset.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #518: Feb 19, 2019 11:26:11 pm
      Jim beglan is still a tw*t ;D
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #519: Feb 19, 2019 11:27:37 pm
      Other than in the previous post where I said he was the best player on the park?

      Have a day off - it’s boring as f**k and you’re just spouting self satisfying hyperbole now opinion ballast.

      I won't debate with the likes of you because firstly you haven't the wit and secondly you can't keep a civil tongue in your head.

      Good evening.
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      Re: Live: Liverpool V Bayern
      Reply #520: Feb 19, 2019 11:27:48 pm
      What is the point in VAR when you have a situation where Salah is running onto a ball to have a direct shot at the goal, and the defender is only looking at Salah (completely away from the ball) and blocks him off with his arm.

      Clear obstruction to hamper Salah's chances of reaching the ball.

      VAR silent.

       :mad:

      Said this early into the match, but at the time the focus was on a Alisson mistake.

      Was there not a shout for VAR there? The system seems very iffy to me.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #521: Feb 19, 2019 11:29:31 pm
      I won't debate with the likes of you because firstly you haven't the wit and secondly you can't keep a civil tongue in your head.

      Good evening.

      Now that IS a result.

      Good evening.
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #522: Feb 19, 2019 11:44:55 pm
      My main worry is teams will continue to sit deep, control the midfield and hope for a quick break to score. And does klopp has any plans to overcome that or still to try to dribble the ball into goal? That can only be done if the front players has the vision to move into scoring spaces and undersrand each other's movement inside the box and i don't see any at the momrnt,. The outcome of every pass into the opposition box is random. The final decisive pass always under or overhit or blocked.
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      Re: Re: Champions League: Round of 16
      Reply #523: Feb 19, 2019 11:45:18 pm
      Lyon and Barca 0-0. With Fekir back for the next game, fancy Lyon to go through.

      I think Lyon will do it too!!
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      Re: Liverpool 0-0 Bayern Munich: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #524: Feb 19, 2019 11:52:57 pm
      Advantage Liverpool because we can get an away goal, they can't. VVD back for the second leg. Onwards and up.

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