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      Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)

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      LondonRed83
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #75: Feb 26, 2019 12:28:00 pm
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #76: Feb 26, 2019 12:28:16 pm

      Definitely Henderson was farther forward. Also, playing  Shaquiri for 90 minutes does not seem like a good idea. his contribution in the 2nd half of the season, even as a sub, has been minimal for the most part.

      I kind of expect to see Origi start vs Watford.

      had great hopes for Shaq but he seems to have gone back in Jurgens plans. Is he still carrying an injury. This is going to be a very interesting team selection but Jürgen doesn't change things too often unless injuries force him to do so. Being top of the league means he will show loyalty to those who got them there
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #77: Feb 26, 2019 12:29:58 pm
      had great hopes for Shaq but he seems to have gone back in Jurgens plans. Is he still carrying an injury. This is going to be a very interesting team selection but Jürgen doesn't change things too often unless injuries force him to do so. Being top of the league means he will show loyalty to those who got them there

      Think he had an injury to his abs?
      Not sure.
      Whatever it was has restricted him.
      I think we're yet to see the best of him.

      It will be interesting to see how we line up if Firmino is out.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #78: Feb 26, 2019 12:30:54 pm
      Am I right in thinking our midfield is normally set up to allow the wing backs to play high up the park  they are not really there to score goals or be too creative and so far its worked quite well. So I don't get the point of looking at assists or goals from midfield.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #79: Feb 26, 2019 12:34:27 pm
      Am I right in thinking our midfield is normally set up to allow the wing backs to play high up the park  they are not really there to score goals or be too creative and so far its worked quite well. So I don't get the point of looking at assists or goals from midfield.

      You want to stop reading too much of Swab’s crazy postings.

      Don’t see the point in goals or assists from midfield  :lmao:
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #80: Feb 26, 2019 12:37:32 pm
      Am I right in thinking our midfield is normally set up to allow the wing backs to play high up the park  they are not really there to score goals or be too creative and so far its worked quite well. So I don't get the point of looking at assists or goals from midfield.

      Yes mate.
      Klopp himself has said numerous times that our FB's are the primary attacking outlet.

      It's apparently difficult for some to get their heads round this.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #81: Feb 26, 2019 12:38:27 pm
      Am I right in thinking our midfield is normally set up to allow the wing backs to play high up the park  they are not really there to score goals or be too creative and so far its worked quite well. So I don't get the point of looking at assists or goals from midfield.

      While I agree were set up like that we need more goals and assists from midfield.

      Should be a priority this summer.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #82: Feb 26, 2019 12:39:55 pm
      While I agree were set up like that we need more goals and assists from midfield.

      Should be a priority this summer.

      Yup. Was last summer so can’t see why it would change.

      Two things make it more stark.

      A) we didn’t sign Fekir

      B) Naby has been a disappointment to date
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #83: Feb 26, 2019 12:41:47 pm
      While I agree were set up like that we need more goals and assists from midfield.

      Should be a priority this summer.

      Yup. Was last summer so can’t see why it would change.

      Two things make it more stark.

      A) we didn’t sign Fekir

      B) Naby has been a disappointment to date

      Work in progress.
      Rafa had a similar system of employing the FB's further up, but he did it differently and had Gerrard to play behind Torres.
      Lucky f**ker.  ;)
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #84: Feb 26, 2019 12:53:03 pm
      You want to stop reading too much of Swab’s crazy postings.

      Don’t see the point in goals or assists from midfield  :lmao:

      is that your best attempt at serious post . You need to speak with Jürgen not me and you need to read posts before trying to be smart which you are clearly not.
      Despite the lack of assists from our midfield and despite the lack of goals from midfield we are top of the League so come on smartarse you explain how we achieved that with our defensive midfield.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #85: Feb 26, 2019 01:15:54 pm
      depends on how Watford  set up, if the leave deaney up front and sit behind the ball we probably won't break them down.  We seem to have lost all sense of urgency lately with too many players not turning up apart from Allison, VVD & Fab.

      Hope they prove me wrong.

      YNWA
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #86: Feb 26, 2019 01:16:44 pm
      Are you sure about this?

      Because I saw Fabinho and Wijnaldum in the deep positions and Henderson playing further up.
      That's why Shaqiri came on for Henderson, and incidentally, didn't do any better.

      In the first half Hendo ambled thru. Didn't push on and didn't impose any real urgency or leadership. The midfield wasn't set up to be on the front foot. Klopp was expecting United to come at us and we were set up to contain. The reported bust up, I think was mostly Klopp saying we failed to capitilise on United's disarray. Klopp frustration showed when he took Hendo off.

      Henderson has to take more risks, as do the rest of midfield. Playing the ball to feet is not always the best option. I have supported Hendo but the situation calls for action, and urgency. It was clearly lacking against United especially in that vital first half.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #87: Feb 26, 2019 01:20:45 pm
      In the first half Hendo ambled thru. Didn't push on and didn't impose any real urgency or leadership. The midfield wasn't set up to be on the front foot. Klopp was expecting United to come at us and we were set up to contain. The reported bust up, I think was mostly Klopp saying we failed to capitilise on United's disarray. Klopp frustration showed when he took Hendo off.

      Henderson has to take more risks, as do the rest of midfield. Playing the ball to feet is not always the best option. I have supported Hendo but the situation calls for action, and urgency. It was clearly lacking against United especially in that vital first half.

      why do they have to take more risks?  We are top of the league playing with a style that Jürgen likes and has brought us to a point where we have lost just 1 league game and top of the League. Pogba didn't get a touch and because of that Lukaku hardly had a touch.
      Utd were the form team in this game not us but the first twenty mins we battered them the changes including Bobby's disrupted the rhythm .
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #88: Feb 26, 2019 01:29:35 pm
      We won't be top of the league when it counts if we don't up our performances and take our chances in front of goal.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #89: Feb 26, 2019 01:35:09 pm
      In the first half Hendo ambled thru. Didn't push on and didn't impose any real urgency or leadership. The midfield wasn't set up to be on the front foot. Klopp was expecting United to come at us and we were set up to contain. The reported bust up, I think was mostly Klopp saying we failed to capitilise on United's disarray. Klopp frustration showed when he took Hendo off.

      Henderson has to take more risks, as do the rest of midfield. Playing the ball to feet is not always the best option. I have supported Hendo but the situation calls for action, and urgency. It was clearly lacking against United especially in that vital first half.

      Hmm, are you sure about that?
      Because what I saw was Henderson sitting behind the front 3, working the ball wide (as he's supposed to) supporting the flanks and creating a couple of things out of thin air.
      The little dink inside for (I think) Salah who pulled it back was one that sticks in my mind.

      The sub was tactical.

      Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he had a great game, but he was decent.

      A bit hard to do anything against a packed defense, particularly when that packed defense is full of players that cost a sh*t ton of money.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #90: Feb 26, 2019 01:55:19 pm
      I can't remember when we last played well to be honest, and were top of the league - so surely it has to change at some point.

      Come on lads this is getting serious now.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #91: Feb 26, 2019 02:01:47 pm
      Bobby is still a maybe for this game, suspect he wont be risked.

      But Naby should comeback into team.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #92: Feb 26, 2019 02:28:52 pm
      Heard nothing of this but no doubt some, you included, take this type of stuff as gospel.

      Not as gospel but assuming he's not a robot how could he not go apeshit at them after that crap display, it seems fairly plausible.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #93: Feb 26, 2019 02:33:30 pm
      Not as gospel but assuming he's not a robot how could he not go apeshit at them after that crap display, it seems fairly plausible.

      So a total guess then.
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #94: Feb 26, 2019 02:34:10 pm
      is that your best attempt at serious post . You need to speak with Jürgen not me and you need to read posts before trying to be smart which you are clearly not.
      Despite the lack of assists from our midfield and despite the lack of goals from midfield we are top of the League so come on smartarse you explain how we achieved that with our defensive midfield.

      Let me try, we achieved that by having an outstanding defence and brilliant strikers, but put a Stevie G in midfield and we would be pissing on everyone right now, Imagine having attacks coming from FB's AND through the middle, now that is a bit radical isn't it!!!
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #95: Feb 26, 2019 02:37:13 pm
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #96: Feb 26, 2019 02:38:49 pm

      The daily star? Really?
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #97: Feb 26, 2019 02:56:26 pm

      Yes, I like a bit of gossip and trash journalism, have to level things out with the Telegraph and FT ;-)
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #98: Feb 26, 2019 03:04:25 pm

      You’ll get a virus clicking on that sh*t
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      Re: Pre-Match: Liverpool v Watford (Wed, 27th Feb 2019 - 20:00)
      Reply #99: Feb 26, 2019 03:05:58 pm
      You’ll get a virus clicking on that sh*t

      LOL, good point.

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