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      Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion

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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #675: Mar 04, 2019 10:52:16 am
      If some have sh*t bed so what don’t let that distract from what has been a great season so far and fingers crossed come May it may be a brilliant season.
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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #676: Mar 04, 2019 11:13:09 am
      You're comparing our stats from 29yr ago with this years and saying things are totally different these days, then quoting a Legends statement from Yrs ago, try using a modern legends quote like 'WE GO AGAIN' 
      This ain't over its 90 mins 11 v 11 x 38 Roll on May 12th!

      No, I'm not. I'm debunking the person that is. Read the original post in the quote.
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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #677: Mar 04, 2019 11:17:46 am
      If some have sh*t bed so what don’t let that distract from what has been a great season so far and fingers crossed come May it may be a brilliant season.

      It will only be a great season if we win something mate.

      If we come runners up in the PL and CL it will just go down as another disappointing "almost" season.
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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #678: Mar 04, 2019 11:24:45 am
      It will only be a great season if we win something mate.

      If we come runners up in the PL and CL it will just go down as another disappointing "almost" season.

      Maybe for you but think about it overtaking a juggernaut that is City!

      If they have the Silva’s playing poorly they bring on De Bruyne, Sterling or Sane they have Mahrez etc.

      Nothing subtle about that sort of play it’s a sledgehammer style which no one can financially compete with in this league not even Utd with their revenue stream.

      Until UEFA crack down on their cheating that is the situation.




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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #679: Mar 04, 2019 12:29:48 pm
      You really don't get it. It's a 1 point difference, with 9 games to go.

      Indeed mate, perspective is so difficult to come by these days, but hey we're a passionate lot and we're desperate for this league. Klopp said in an interview that the first generation to win after almost 30 years have it the hardest, once the monkey is off our back, it'll become easier. But to be in this position against the gazillionnaires of City at this stage of the season is unbelievable still.

      City had their blip, they lost 3 games against bottom half teams, and we're having our blip now. I'm as frustrated as everyone else, we should have been bolder, more aggressive, start with Shaq instead of Origi and thrown the kitchen sink at them in the last ten minutes as the United teams of yesteryear used to. Very frustrated at the moment. But it's still one point in it with 9 games to go.

      I'm going to remain positive and all I ask for from our team is a bit more belief on the pitch. We're being too conservative too often, and we're not attacking the games with the champions mentality away from home at mo. Hopefully that draw will be the end of our blip, gotta keep going. YNWA lads.
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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #680: Mar 04, 2019 01:57:36 pm
      What is the point of paying all of that money for Keita if you can't trust him in games like these? And what has Lallana done to warrant a spot over Shaqiri? You're playing in the Merseyside derby and you're desperate for a goal. Shaqiri provides the ability to unlock defenses with his passes and runs and Keita has the ability to drive the MF forward and join the attack. He's one of our few Pool midfielders who can actually add goals.

      Klopp really dropped the ball yesterday.
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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #681: Mar 04, 2019 02:04:19 pm
      Maybe for you but think about it overtaking a juggernaut that is City!

      If they have the Silva’s playing poorly they bring on De Bruyne, Sterling or Sane they have Mahrez etc.

      Nothing subtle about that sort of play it’s a sledgehammer style which no one can financially compete with in this league not even Utd with their revenue stream.

      Until UEFA crack down on their cheating that is the situation.






      Yes but none of that excuses our poor form over the last 8 weeks.

      What City do with the players they have when they aren't playing us is their own business.

      We also have a very strong squad but we're not making the most of it whether it's through nerves or poor team selection. There is no excuse to have drawn 4 in the last 6. 2 maybe but 4 is down to bottle and nothing else. Remember we are only in one other competition, City were in 4 up to last week.
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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #682: Mar 04, 2019 02:57:04 pm
      klopp moaning about the wind

      he isnt helping us with his talk

      Is it the Brendan influence (now that he is nearer to Liverpool than he was before)? Is one of Brendan's condition that he must start talking rubbish otherwise Brendan will move into his home? I wonder. Never see Klopp talk such nonsense as he has done for last couple of weeks.
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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #683: Mar 04, 2019 03:22:12 pm
      I think people are doing a big disservice to both Man Utd and Everton, both those fixtures are incredibly hard for us every single year. Yes on paper we should have won both and yesterday we really should have beaten Everton with the chances we created but just didn't have the rub of the green, it happens. The more disappointing results were Leicester and West Ham but it would have been inconceivable to go the whole season without a slip up.
      I saw more than enough in the Watford game to convince me that we can win 9 games on the bounce but the team need to play good positive football and no more of this negative midfield setup. I understand perfectly why we started Hendo yesterday as it was a physical match but he seems totally lost at times and interrupted the rhythm, especially at the start. We have to start at least one creative midfielder from now on, either Keita, Shaq or Ox, we have to have more penetration from midfield otherwise the forwards are all to easily neutralised.

      Exactly 2 away draws in the 2 derby games, 4 points each from Utd & Everton, aint a bad return.

      Our final ball and shooting was just a fraction out yesterday, thats it nothing else.

      Salah got into great positions, but his touch was as bad as I've seen it. Wont happen again, he is due to start scoring for fun again.

      Also before VVD & Allison, all these draws weve got would have been defeats, we would be fighting it out for 4th without the improvements in defense.



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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #684: Mar 04, 2019 03:24:34 pm
      Just heard that apparently Jim White was at the match yesterday and sat next to Kenwright and Moshiri.
      Just after the final whistle they got a text off Man City congratulating them on the result and saying thanks!
      Let’s stick two fingers up to them both and win the bl**dy thing! YNWA.
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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #685: Mar 04, 2019 03:27:25 pm
      Just heard that apparently Jim White was at the match yesterday and sat next to Kenwright and Moshiri.
      Just after the final whistle they got a text off Man City congratulating them on the result and saying thanks!
      Let’s stick two fingers up to them both and win the bl**dy thing! YNWA.

      We will win & it’s going to be the sweetest title win ever..
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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #686: Mar 04, 2019 03:54:38 pm
      Maybe for you but think about it overtaking a juggernaut that is City!

      If they have the Silva’s playing poorly they bring on De Bruyne, Sterling or Sane they have Mahrez etc.

      Nothing subtle about that sort of play it’s a sledgehammer style which no one can financially compete with in this league not even Utd with their revenue stream.

      Until UEFA crack down on their cheating that is the situation.






      That is clutching at straws mate to make yourself feel little bit better. I bet you (we) were not saying that in January.

      What hurts most is the way we are giving away points (to my pessimistic self - the title). If we don't win PL then the thing that would hurt is that we didn't go for it. We went ahead by 7 points and for some reason we decided to play 'safety first'. We have seven points in bag - we are okay, 5 points ahead - we are okay, 3 points ahead - we are okay, and so on. It wouldn't hurt as much as it does right now  if we had tried to beat teams down and may be lost a couple.

      Anyway, I an inconsolable today because I wanted (I know it is past tense and we have 9 games left to play) to see us win a PL.
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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #687: Mar 04, 2019 03:56:32 pm
      He used to love Hendo, Milly and Gini and I didn't like that.

      It now appears to he Fab, Hendo and Gini and I dislike that too.

      We need at least one central midfielder who can break the line and that was Keita for me in this game. The three we had were too far away from the front three and they were easier to deal with.

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      Reply #688: Mar 04, 2019 03:56:55 pm
      Think the negativity of setting up as LFC has done away against big opponents has cost valuable points against both United and Everton.

      Understandable against teams like City or Munich, but that midfield 3 against Everton really stifled the team.

      Any other year a point away would probably be good enough, but this isn't any other year.

      Should have been a shift to 4-2-2-2. Bring on Keita or Shaqiri.

      At a loss to why Henderson is in there and Lallana comes on.

      Lost for words really.
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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #689: Mar 04, 2019 04:04:30 pm
      I looked at the teams left and honestly, we suffered against good squads/teams whom defended deep and countered. West Ham, Utd, Leicester, Everton defended deep really and countered. Today was a bit different as they inclusion of Origi and then bringing on Lallana and Milner to change things was never going to help us.  Of all the teams left only Chelsea and Tottenham have the quality to defend deep and counter against us.  Chelsea might try and do it, I don't think Tottenham will. Against the team left we could run up cricket scores. I think maybe Roy and Rodgers might try and do us a favour. Utd are in the hunt for top 4 so you never know.
      This time of the season the teams in and around the relegation zone become the hardest to get three points from, every player in those teams want to either show their usefulness hoping that if thier team goes down so one in the premier League or a team coming up will buy them, or they can stave off relegation's and keep drawing the big bucks... so for them is about pick up every point they can from those not in and around that zone and beating those who are. There simple is no easy game against these teams
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      Reply #690: Mar 04, 2019 04:14:01 pm
      You really don't get it. It's a 1 point difference, with 9 games to go. If you think it's all over you're not pessimistic, realistic, or whatever bullshit you might tell yourself. You're thick.
      City have won their last six game while we have draw 4 and won  2 while you "Hope" City will drop points and "Hope"  that we can go on a magical run and win all of our remaining game as I said elsewhere Anything is mathematically possible... Using a line from JFK (The Movie) "Theoretical physics can prove that an elephant can hang off a cliff with its tail tied to a daisy!"... It is not about what is possible, but about what is likely
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      Reply #691: Mar 04, 2019 04:27:46 pm
      Well having taken some time, I’m still pretty pissed with the result, all I picture in the game is Salah missing that wonderful chance.

      I just don’t get it with Klopp. Says he’s playing Keita into form, Keita then hits form and he doesn’t play for 3 games. Ultimately, if you are pushing to win a game, you don’t bring on Milner and Lallana. You bring on Keita and Shaqiri. Especially the latter given the impact he’s made off the bench this season.
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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #692: Mar 04, 2019 04:30:18 pm
      City have won their last six game while we have draw 4 and won  2 while you "Hope" City will drop points and "Hope"  that we can go on a magical run and win all of our remaining game.

      Sounds like you don't hope those things happen?
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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #693: Mar 04, 2019 04:32:24 pm
      So what? And so was Milan in the first half of Istanbul. And Milan’s quality... forget it - what Smicer? Out of pace Hamman? Traore? Baros who? Kewell actually started? Oh but we had Stevie, Xabi, Sami, and Jamie. Yea we didn’t play with 5 men ya know...

      I guess you were probably born yesterday?

      I don’t know about you. You might want to give up now. Be our guest. Just be very aware that there will be many of us who won’t. We’re mentally stronger because we’ve experienced Istanbul, Olympiakos, Cardiff FA Cup Final, the Gerrard Final... Stevie may be the common denominator but the point is we fans never give up.

      For others it’s sport, for us this is a way of life. But if you do happen to throw in the towel now, just make sure you don’t celebrate with us when we win it. It’s your choice mate... You decide. Are you coming with us or not?
      Legendary post there Ruth... I truly mean it, it deserve 10 plus 1's unfortunately i can only give you 1

      I fully support the team, but it does not stop be from seeing the reality of he task a head if we are going to left no 19.
      I don't buy into all this "Believe" and think "Positive" BS and had Rafa allowed Team team to play it's game we may not have been 3-0 com half time in Istanbul, but i get what you are saying, and what you are feeling...

      I told a friend of mine, a Arsenal support who was laughing at us half time what i had been tell everyone else for months before. I told him that night "I don't know how we are going to come back from this, but I just feel that we have our name on that trophy" .... I do not get that same feeling about the Title
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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #694: Mar 04, 2019 04:35:27 pm
      Sounds like you don't hope those things happen?
      Not at all mate, really hope I am wrong, do i feel that I am...? No
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      Reply #695: Mar 04, 2019 05:05:33 pm
      That is clutching at straws mate to make yourself feel little bit better. I bet you (we) were not saying that in January.

      What hurts most is the way we are giving away points (to my pessimistic self - the title). If we don't win PL then the thing that would hurt is that we didn't go for it. We went ahead by 7 points and for some reason we decided to play 'safety first'. We have seven points in bag - we are okay, 5 points ahead - we are okay, 3 points ahead - we are okay, and so on. It wouldn't hurt as much as it does right now  if we had tried to beat teams down and may be lost a couple.

      Anyway, I an inconsolable today because I wanted (I know it is past tense and we have 9 games left to play) to see us win a PL.

      I never thought we were going to run away with the league.
      Maybe a few posters got carried away?
      All teams have blips City had theirs and we are having ours.

      Nothing new it’s what happens during the course of the season, no reason to suggest why we can’t return to the form of earlier season and why City won’t drop more pts.

      It’s not set in the rules.
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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #696: Mar 04, 2019 05:15:05 pm
      Having just seen Klopps interview I get the impression he was playing for the draw.



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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #697: Mar 04, 2019 05:22:01 pm
      Sounds like you don't hope those things happen?

      Some just enjoy the misery.

      It was a disappointing result yesterday, I'm not sure anyone disputes that, but still football to be played and a team that's already lost four games this season has it in them to drop more points.

      I agree with your post JD regarding the enjoyment in football and it's weird that so many seem so pissed off in a season where we're gathering more points than most times in our history.

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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #698: Mar 04, 2019 05:22:23 pm
      Having just seen Klopps interview I get the impression he was playing for the draw.





      Exactly and that has been the problem with us since for a while.
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      Re: Everton 0-0 Liverpool: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #699: Mar 04, 2019 05:22:50 pm
      Having just seen Klopps interview I get the impression he was playing for the draw.

      He was very triggered by reporters saying maybe he could have been more attacking in his changes.

      I think he saw the UTD and Everton games as games we could not afford to lose rather than ones we had to win, maybe we will look back at the end of the season and think to ourselves he was right.

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