Trending Topics

      Next match: LFC v Huddersfield [Premier League] Fri 26th Apr @ 8:00 pm
      Anfield

      Today is the 23rd of April and on this date LFC's match record is P25 W11 D4 L10

      LFC Reds Poll

      Q. LFC Man of the Match v Burnley?

       Alisson
      0 (0%)
      Trent Alexander-Arnold
      0 (0%)
      Joel Matip
      1 (0.9%)
      Virgil van Dijk
      6 (5.2%)
      Andy Robertson
      1 (0.9%)
       Fabinho
      2 (1.7%)
      Georginio Wijnaldum
      0 (0%)
      Adam Lallana
      56 (48.3%)
      Sadio Mane
      32 (27.6%)
      Mohammed Salah
      5 (4.3%)
      Roberto Firmino
      12 (10.3%)
      Jordan Henderson
      0 (0%)
      Naby Keïta
      1 (0.9%)
      Daniel Sturridge
      0 (0%)

      Total Members Voted: 116

      Voting closed: Mar 14, 2019 01:54:09 pm

      Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion

      Read 3517 times
      0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
      heimdall
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 8,202 posts | 1732 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #525: Mar 10, 2019 04:11:38 pm
      How anyone can be negative after that display is beyond me, the first goal to them should never have stood and the second was a typically scruffy extra time goal where concentration lapses after we've dominated the entire match, not good but sh*t happens. In between that and indeed afterwards we played some lovely free flowing attacking football, in very tricky conditions.
      If you compare that performance to Citeh's yesterday then I think we played much better football all round, for one thing we were playing a team that actually gave a sh*t as opposed to Watford B team.

      My only slight concern is that we often look very flat at the start of the second half, I think Klopp needs to address that to get the lads a bit more fired up as they come out for the second half. I've noticed this quite often recently.


      Having said all that I nearly lost my sh*t when Allison nearly fumbled the goal at the end, that would have been to f**king cruel!
      barney73
      • Forum Graeme Souness
      • ***

      • 370 posts | 53 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #526: Mar 10, 2019 04:13:14 pm
      There is no way that Manure will bend over for their noisy neighbours, I simply cannot imagine that happening.
      Of course they will. Even there manager and players have said they will do everything to prevent lpool winning. It be like Watford a reserve teamout
      Borg
      • Forum Paul Ince
      • *

      • 86 posts | 27 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #527: Mar 10, 2019 04:14:01 pm
      Question: Is there a running total for MOTM winners this season?
      barney73
      • Forum Graeme Souness
      • ***

      • 370 posts | 53 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #528: Mar 10, 2019 04:19:21 pm
      We need silverware more than city do!!!!!, they’ve won a couple of trophies so f**king what?  We’ve got a f**king cabinet full fella,before the Mansour family rocked up with there billions & there bent ways they where a nothing club and on the grand scheme of things they’ve got a long f**king way to go before they can match our history & our trophy cabinet  and that of utd’s to.
      Yes but that's in bygone age. Since 2006sum13 seasons ago we have only won a league cup which hardly counts as a serious competition anymore. We need silverware. I think if we get the monkey off our back more will follow quickly. But it's an awful drought. Anyway we're progressing I think we deserve sum silverware considering all the bad luck we had in number of recent years concerning finals. I hope fifa get tough on city too and Dock them. Points if there found guilty. Or will they be let off with slap on wrists ie fine that they laugh atand mean nothing,
      Diego LFC
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 18,714 posts | 2313 
      • Sempre Liverpool
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #529: Mar 10, 2019 04:20:20 pm
      That principle also applies to you ...


      Oh don't take offence, I'm just SAYING IT AS IT IS.
      srslfc
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 25,640 posts | 2001 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #530: Mar 10, 2019 04:25:00 pm
      Of course they will. Even there manager and players have said they will do everything to prevent lpool winning.

      Have they really?
      LMW
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 316 posts | 95 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #531: Mar 10, 2019 04:31:21 pm

      You didn’t know? Very credible article on BlueMoon discussing the matter.
      srslfc
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 25,640 posts | 2001 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #532: Mar 10, 2019 04:33:23 pm
      You didn’t know? Very credible article on BlueMoon discussing the matter.

      Nope, barely have enough time to post on here at times never mind trawling through other clubs sites.
      barney73
      • Forum Graeme Souness
      • ***

      • 370 posts | 53 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #533: Mar 10, 2019 04:34:18 pm
      Yes they will not lift a leg v city. There manager has said it be his worst nightmare and united fans will be cheering city. Anyway that's further down the line.  Today we won so alls good. Still mad at Watford and Bournemouth putting out reserve teams vcity. Hooe that dosent become a patrern
      PolarBearRed
      • Forum Vladimir Smicer
      • **

      • 190 posts | 50 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #534: Mar 10, 2019 04:34:24 pm
      Happy with the 3 points, happy with Lallana's performance and I'm happy for him too. However, despite Lallana's performance, I don't think I saw anything that indicates a change in the way we play that might help us against tougher opposition.

      Still over-relying on the opposition being bad enough for us to bypass the need for creativity and midfielders who carry the ball deep into the opposition's half by giving the ball to an isolated Mane or Salah for them to create a spark all while dealing with 2 or 3 players being on their shoulders.

      At this point, I'm past getting excited by a win over Burnley at home. We've struggled all year against anybody with enough quality in their squad/manager to figure out and deal with the fact that we're playing with 3 blocks (defense, midfield, offense) that are separated from each other.

      No excuse for starting games with both Milner and Henderson on the pitch when we needed the 3 points especially that before the last spell of matches on the bench for Keita the lad was growing into form and proved to be the only player available that can give us creativity and carry the ball forward.

      We're going to seriously struggle, at the very least, against Bayern as well as Tottenham and Chelsea.

      LMW
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 316 posts | 95 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #535: Mar 10, 2019 04:36:13 pm
      Nope, barely have enough time to post on here at times never mind trawling through other clubs sites.

      Dammit my sarcasm didn’t quite come across there.
      srslfc
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 25,640 posts | 2001 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #536: Mar 10, 2019 04:37:31 pm
      Dammit my sarcasm didn’t quite come across there.

      Sorry mate totally missed that. ;D

      Yes they will not lift a leg v city. There manager has said it be his worst nightmare and united fans will be cheering city.

      Don't believe that for a second.
      CT_LFC
      • Forum Legend - Benitez
      • *****

      • 1,115 posts | 243 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #537: Mar 10, 2019 04:39:41 pm
      Happy with the 3 points, happy with Lallana's performance and I'm happy for him too. However, despite Lallana's performance, I don't think I saw anything that indicates a change in the way we play that might help us against tougher opposition.

      Still over-relying on the opposition being bad enough for us to bypass the need for creativity and midfielders who carry the ball deep into the opposition's half by giving the ball to an isolated Mane or Salah for them to create a spark all while dealing with 2 or 3 players being on their shoulders.

      At this point, I'm past getting excited by a win over Burnley at home. We've struggled all year against anybody with enough quality in their squad/manager to figure out and deal with the fact that we're playing with 3 blocks (defense, midfield, offense) that are separated from each other.

      No excuse for starting games with both Milner and Henderson on the pitch when we needed the 3 points especially that before the last spell of matches on the bench for Keita the lad was growing into form and proved to be the only player available that can give us creativity and carry the ball forward.

      We're going to seriously struggle, at the very least, against Bayern as well as Tottenham and Chelsea.

      After a well-earned win and 3 points, this is the garbage you come up with? FFS
      srslfc
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 25,640 posts | 2001 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #538: Mar 10, 2019 04:58:58 pm
      Happy with the 3 points, happy with Lallana's performance and I'm happy for him too. However, despite Lallana's performance, I don't think I saw anything that indicates a change in the way we play that might help us against tougher opposition.

      Still over-relying on the opposition being bad enough for us to bypass the need for creativity and midfielders who carry the ball deep into the opposition's half by giving the ball to an isolated Mane or Salah for them to create a spark all while dealing with 2 or 3 players being on their shoulders.

      At this point, I'm past getting excited by a win over Burnley at home. We've struggled all year against anybody with enough quality in their squad/manager to figure out and deal with the fact that we're playing with 3 blocks (defense, midfield, offense) that are separated from each other.

      No excuse for starting games with both Milner and Henderson on the pitch when we needed the 3 points especially that before the last spell of matches on the bench for Keita the lad was growing into form and proved to be the only player available that can give us creativity and carry the ball forward.

      We're going to seriously struggle, at the very least, against Bayern as well as Tottenham and Chelsea.



      Yep, we're so bad that we're a point from the top having scored the exact same amount of goals after 30 games as we did last season having conceded far less.

      Don't seem to be having too much trouble breaking many sides down at all.
      barney73
      • Forum Graeme Souness
      • ***

      • 370 posts | 53 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #539: Mar 10, 2019 05:03:21 pm
      Sorry mate totally missed that. ;D

      Don't believe that for a second.
      Anyway we need to get maximum points fro our last 8 games then we see. If city are to drop points it won't be at the toilet
      srslfc
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 25,640 posts | 2001 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #540: Mar 10, 2019 05:08:10 pm
      Anyway we need to get maximum points fro our last 8 games then we see. If city are to drop points it won't be at the toilet

      Disagree. It's one of the games they may well drop points.
      David Wright
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 2,938 posts | 162 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #541: Mar 10, 2019 05:10:42 pm
      Did not see the game, obviously important win for the Reds. I cannot judge MOTM, look forward to watching the highlights later tonight.
      barney73
      • Forum Graeme Souness
      • ***

      • 370 posts | 53 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #542: Mar 10, 2019 05:24:56 pm
      Disagree. It's one of the games they may well drop points.
      Can't see it against prob a reserve United team. Anyway be irrelevant if we don't win our games and spurs fighting for a top 4spot and Ali and kane back willnot be easy and Chelsea at anfield is never straightforward. Anyway that's for another day. Today is a good one. Hopefully fifa now will dock city a few points and find them guilty in flouting all financial fair play.

      PolarBearRed
      • Forum Vladimir Smicer
      • **

      • 190 posts | 50 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #543: Mar 10, 2019 05:30:27 pm
      Yep, we're so bad that we're a point from the top having scored the exact same amount of goals after 30 games as we did last season having conceded far less.

      Don't seem to be having too much trouble breaking many sides down at all.
      Or you could say that we're so good we've let a 9 points lead slide while doing nothing to fix the main problem that has been causing the slide. I don't go for this ''we've won so let's close our eyes and pretend we have no problem'' mentality and it's not every time that somebody comes up with a critical point of view that we have to act as if it was blasphemy. You can see good things in a bad game and the bad things in a good game. In either situation, it's not a crime to mention it.

      I'm not mad or anything. Just giving my opinion about what I'm seeing and what I'm seeing is that we're still struggling to create anything for the lads up front or link up with them deep in the opposition's half other than through the overlapping fullbacks when we are facing teams with quality lineups and managers which is a big problem at this point of the season considering we went from 9 points clear to trailing city by a point.

      The thing that makes it all so frustrating is not the players, but the fact that its tactical decisions that are leading to this. Sure Gini gets upfront against Burnley while we're trailing, but he also disappeared into a defensive role at 2-1. We also field him, Milner and Henderson against any stronger opposition and seemingly give them clear instructions to not get forward all while Keita and Shaqiri are sitting on the bench.

      Yet somehow, mentioning this is considered negative while ignoring it and pouring a ton of tactically inaccurate/uneducated (don't consider myself a football mastermind or anything) crap over Mane, Firmino, and Salah after each game we should've won and they've been offered nothing to play with other than a mistake or two from the opposition is okay.

      Frankly, Mr Shankly
      • Forum Legend - Paisley
      • *****

      • 19,508 posts | 4902 
      • YNWA
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #544: Mar 10, 2019 05:33:12 pm
      (don't consider myself a football mastermind or anything)



      Let's just leave it there shall we?
      LMW
      • LFC Reds Subscriber
      • *****
      • 316 posts | 95 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #545: Mar 10, 2019 05:48:44 pm
      Or you could say that we're so good we've let a 9 points lead slide while doing nothing to fix the main problem that has been causing the slide. I don't go for this ''we've won so let's close our eyes and pretend we have no problem'' mentality and it's not every time that somebody comes up with a critical point of view that we have to act as if it was blasphemy. You can see good things in a bad game and the bad things in a good game. In either situation, it's not a crime to mention it.

      I'm not mad or anything. Just giving my opinion about what I'm seeing and what I'm seeing is that we're still struggling to create anything for the lads up front or link up with them deep in the opposition's half other than through the overlapping fullbacks when we are facing teams with quality lineups and managers which is a big problem at this point of the season considering we went from 9 points clear to trailing city by a point.

      The thing that makes it all so frustrating is not the players, but the fact that its tactical decisions that are leading to this. Sure Gini gets upfront against Burnley while we're trailing, but he also disappeared into a defensive role at 2-1. We also field him, Milner and Henderson against any stronger opposition and seemingly give them clear instructions to not get forward all while Keita and Shaqiri are sitting on the bench.

      Yet somehow, mentioning this is considered negative while ignoring it and pouring a ton of tactically inaccurate/uneducated (don't consider myself a football mastermind or anything) crap over Mane, Firmino, and Salah after each game we should've won and they've been offered nothing to play with other than a mistake or two from the opposition is okay.

      I agree about lacking a creative midfield player and that our forwards are sometimes having to create their own chances. This might be something that is addressed in the summer window. But not sure that is relevant to the performance? We’ve just seen an incredible game from Lallana who made a huge difference today. 23 shot and 4 goals - not sure we seen those creativity problems in this game at all.
      Swab
      • Forum Legend - Paisley
      • *****

      • 11,219 posts | 2161 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #546: Mar 10, 2019 06:05:16 pm
      I agree about lacking a creative midfield player and that our forwards are sometimes having to create their own chances. This might be something that is addressed in the summer window. But not sure that is relevant to the performance? We’ve just seen an incredible game from Lallana who made a huge difference today. 23 shot and 4 goals - not sure we seen those creativity problems in this game at all.

      If people took the time to understand how we play, they would know we have no creativity problems.
      This "creativity problem" is a red herring, promoted by twitter tw*ts who want to boost their numbers by appealing to malcontents who don't understand what they are looking at when they "watch" a match.

      I was really pleased for Lallana today.
      He's a cracking player who has had a sh*t time with injuries.
      I've seen people say the team has "outgrown him" whatever the f**k that means, but the fact is, today we saw what a good player he is, and how much he helps us, when he's fully fit.
      If we sell him this summer, it will be because of his fitness and injury issues, not a lack of talent.
      PolarBearRed
      • Forum Vladimir Smicer
      • **

      • 190 posts | 50 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #547: Mar 10, 2019 06:11:31 pm
      I agree about lacking a creative midfield player and that our forwards are sometimes having to create their own chances. This might be something that is addressed in the summer window. But not sure that is relevant to the performance? We’ve just seen an incredible game from Lallana who made a huge difference today. 23 shot and 4 goals - not sure we seen those creativity problems in this game at all.
      I agree that it probably needs fixing in the summer, but I also think it can be partly fixed by not going into games like the Everton one with an overly-precautious mindset and Keita and Shaq (and probably Lallana after this performance) all on the bench because while they may not be perfect, they are the closest things we have to that ''summer fix'' we're talking about and Keita actually showed an improving form and capability to fix this problem for us before being nailed back to the bench. This is basically it in terms of the point I'm trying to get across.

      To answer your question about the relevance of these problems to this game my point was that even while facing weaker opposition and despite scoring goals, sometimes lots of them, our lack of creativity and link between the midfield and forwards is still very much noticeable during stretches of the game. This is what prompted me to mention it alongside the fact that I'm happy with the 3 points and Lallana's performance...but apparently, some people die a little when somebody say something other than a positive comment after a win
      The Real Donavan Ried
      • Forum Legend - Fagan
      • *****

      • 4,967 posts | 907 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #548: Mar 10, 2019 06:55:49 pm
      Did what we had to do.

      Mane continues to step up big time.
      Think at times last season there was a bit of jealousy from Mane because Salah was scoring so often and the fans love of him, often he was not passing the ball to Salah... But now i think he sees that if they work together that he can score more goals and more importantly he is now feeling the love of the fans
      German_Panzer
      • Forum Phil Thompson
      • ***

      • 488 posts | 60 
      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #549: Mar 10, 2019 06:58:50 pm
      I don't see Keita improving, not at all. He started well, then regressed, then stopped his regression recently, but still not remotely the force we all envisioned. If he didn't get it up to now - a full season - he won't get it. Cut the losses early and re-sell Keita and try Fekir.

      Quick Reply