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      Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion

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      srslfc
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      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #540: Mar 10, 2019 05:08:10 pm
      Anyway we need to get maximum points fro our last 8 games then we see. If city are to drop points it won't be at the toilet

      Disagree. It's one of the games they may well drop points.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #541: Mar 10, 2019 05:10:42 pm
      Did not see the game, obviously important win for the Reds. I cannot judge MOTM, look forward to watching the highlights later tonight.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #542: Mar 10, 2019 05:24:56 pm
      Disagree. It's one of the games they may well drop points.
      Can't see it against prob a reserve United team. Anyway be irrelevant if we don't win our games and spurs fighting for a top 4spot and Ali and kane back willnot be easy and Chelsea at anfield is never straightforward. Anyway that's for another day. Today is a good one. Hopefully fifa now will dock city a few points and find them guilty in flouting all financial fair play.

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      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #543: Mar 10, 2019 05:30:27 pm
      Yep, we're so bad that we're a point from the top having scored the exact same amount of goals after 30 games as we did last season having conceded far less.

      Don't seem to be having too much trouble breaking many sides down at all.
      Or you could say that we're so good we've let a 9 points lead slide while doing nothing to fix the main problem that has been causing the slide. I don't go for this ''we've won so let's close our eyes and pretend we have no problem'' mentality and it's not every time that somebody comes up with a critical point of view that we have to act as if it was blasphemy. You can see good things in a bad game and the bad things in a good game. In either situation, it's not a crime to mention it.

      I'm not mad or anything. Just giving my opinion about what I'm seeing and what I'm seeing is that we're still struggling to create anything for the lads up front or link up with them deep in the opposition's half other than through the overlapping fullbacks when we are facing teams with quality lineups and managers which is a big problem at this point of the season considering we went from 9 points clear to trailing city by a point.

      The thing that makes it all so frustrating is not the players, but the fact that its tactical decisions that are leading to this. Sure Gini gets upfront against Burnley while we're trailing, but he also disappeared into a defensive role at 2-1. We also field him, Milner and Henderson against any stronger opposition and seemingly give them clear instructions to not get forward all while Keita and Shaqiri are sitting on the bench.

      Yet somehow, mentioning this is considered negative while ignoring it and pouring a ton of tactically inaccurate/uneducated (don't consider myself a football mastermind or anything) crap over Mane, Firmino, and Salah after each game we should've won and they've been offered nothing to play with other than a mistake or two from the opposition is okay.

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      Reply #544: Mar 10, 2019 05:33:12 pm
      (don't consider myself a football mastermind or anything)



      Let's just leave it there shall we?
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      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #545: Mar 10, 2019 05:48:44 pm
      Or you could say that we're so good we've let a 9 points lead slide while doing nothing to fix the main problem that has been causing the slide. I don't go for this ''we've won so let's close our eyes and pretend we have no problem'' mentality and it's not every time that somebody comes up with a critical point of view that we have to act as if it was blasphemy. You can see good things in a bad game and the bad things in a good game. In either situation, it's not a crime to mention it.

      I'm not mad or anything. Just giving my opinion about what I'm seeing and what I'm seeing is that we're still struggling to create anything for the lads up front or link up with them deep in the opposition's half other than through the overlapping fullbacks when we are facing teams with quality lineups and managers which is a big problem at this point of the season considering we went from 9 points clear to trailing city by a point.

      The thing that makes it all so frustrating is not the players, but the fact that its tactical decisions that are leading to this. Sure Gini gets upfront against Burnley while we're trailing, but he also disappeared into a defensive role at 2-1. We also field him, Milner and Henderson against any stronger opposition and seemingly give them clear instructions to not get forward all while Keita and Shaqiri are sitting on the bench.

      Yet somehow, mentioning this is considered negative while ignoring it and pouring a ton of tactically inaccurate/uneducated (don't consider myself a football mastermind or anything) crap over Mane, Firmino, and Salah after each game we should've won and they've been offered nothing to play with other than a mistake or two from the opposition is okay.

      I agree about lacking a creative midfield player and that our forwards are sometimes having to create their own chances. This might be something that is addressed in the summer window. But not sure that is relevant to the performance? We’ve just seen an incredible game from Lallana who made a huge difference today. 23 shot and 4 goals - not sure we seen those creativity problems in this game at all.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #546: Mar 10, 2019 06:05:16 pm
      I agree about lacking a creative midfield player and that our forwards are sometimes having to create their own chances. This might be something that is addressed in the summer window. But not sure that is relevant to the performance? We’ve just seen an incredible game from Lallana who made a huge difference today. 23 shot and 4 goals - not sure we seen those creativity problems in this game at all.

      If people took the time to understand how we play, they would know we have no creativity problems.
      This "creativity problem" is a red herring, promoted by twitter tw*ts who want to boost their numbers by appealing to malcontents who don't understand what they are looking at when they "watch" a match.

      I was really pleased for Lallana today.
      He's a cracking player who has had a sh*t time with injuries.
      I've seen people say the team has "outgrown him" whatever the f**k that means, but the fact is, today we saw what a good player he is, and how much he helps us, when he's fully fit.
      If we sell him this summer, it will be because of his fitness and injury issues, not a lack of talent.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #547: Mar 10, 2019 06:11:31 pm
      I agree about lacking a creative midfield player and that our forwards are sometimes having to create their own chances. This might be something that is addressed in the summer window. But not sure that is relevant to the performance? We’ve just seen an incredible game from Lallana who made a huge difference today. 23 shot and 4 goals - not sure we seen those creativity problems in this game at all.
      I agree that it probably needs fixing in the summer, but I also think it can be partly fixed by not going into games like the Everton one with an overly-precautious mindset and Keita and Shaq (and probably Lallana after this performance) all on the bench because while they may not be perfect, they are the closest things we have to that ''summer fix'' we're talking about and Keita actually showed an improving form and capability to fix this problem for us before being nailed back to the bench. This is basically it in terms of the point I'm trying to get across.

      To answer your question about the relevance of these problems to this game my point was that even while facing weaker opposition and despite scoring goals, sometimes lots of them, our lack of creativity and link between the midfield and forwards is still very much noticeable during stretches of the game. This is what prompted me to mention it alongside the fact that I'm happy with the 3 points and Lallana's performance...but apparently, some people die a little when somebody say something other than a positive comment after a win
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      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #548: Mar 10, 2019 06:55:49 pm
      Did what we had to do.

      Mane continues to step up big time.
      Think at times last season there was a bit of jealousy from Mane because Salah was scoring so often and the fans love of him, often he was not passing the ball to Salah... But now i think he sees that if they work together that he can score more goals and more importantly he is now feeling the love of the fans
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      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #549: Mar 10, 2019 06:58:50 pm
      I don't see Keita improving, not at all. He started well, then regressed, then stopped his regression recently, but still not remotely the force we all envisioned. If he didn't get it up to now - a full season - he won't get it. Cut the losses early and re-sell Keita and try Fekir.
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      Reply #550: Mar 10, 2019 06:59:23 pm
      Something tells me Mane will be our top scorer this season. No idea what’s going on with Salah, even 1v1s now, just expect him to make a mess of it.
      Everyone knows what he is about now, will be closely marked... But with Mane and Bobby scoring regularly don't expect the tight marking on Salah to last too long
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      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #551: Mar 10, 2019 07:03:16 pm
      more than happy sitting on City's shoulder and we get to play next week against Fulham we just need to win our games
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      Reply #552: Mar 10, 2019 07:03:55 pm
      Must check the scoreline, did we lose ?
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      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #553: Mar 10, 2019 07:11:47 pm
      I don't see Keita improving, not at all. He started well, then regressed, then stopped his regression recently, but still not remotely the force we all envisioned. If he didn't get it up to now - a full season - he won't get it. Cut the losses early and re-sell Keita and try Fekir.
      Think if he can score na couple of goals you will see the player that we thought we bought
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      Reply #554: Mar 10, 2019 07:26:30 pm
      Good performance from many today despite the artrocious weather
      Particularly happy to see Lallana put in a top quality performance.
      Always been a favorite of mine.

      Now looking ahead after united lost today, all I am really hoping for is that we continue to grind out the wins, that united get knocked out of the champions league and that the city game now becomes vital to them to try and get top 4
      I worry that the longer they go in the champions league that their focus will be on trying to win old big ears and they will not be committed to trying to beat city.

      Long way to go yet
      Keep the faith
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      Reply #555: Mar 10, 2019 07:52:09 pm
      What a difference a win can make to your weekend ay, buzzing!

      Wasn't our best performance at home was it? But does that even matter, at this stage, no! We need to keep grinding out the results and getting the points in, that is all that matters.

      Today Klopp made the right choice in bringing in Lallana, I like others wasn't sure as to why Lallana got the nod, but it shows again why I am no manager haha. Lallana was quality today and I hope his performance inspires Naby and Shaq that if they do the business in training they will get their chance. Adam was involved in the best of our play today, his pressure off the ball was immense and the passes he played for the front three were great, his movement around them though was what really stuck out for me, it helped create space and make our front three that more dangerous.

      VVD again showing his brilliance, I know Matip has been immense lately and I am still under the impression that Gomez needs to play him out of the starting 11, but I can't wait for them two to start playing together again.

      Our front three still hasn't clicked BUT if it does before the end of the season City will be the ones worrying, not us. Firmino and Mane both getting a brace each shows the quality we have up top, to get those goals in without even playing that well shows how good we can be.

      Salah, although he didn't get a goal and may have had a couple of heavy touches, he is constantly trying to get at players and letting them know when his on the run they need to be worried, it allows the other two more space and freedom to be dangerous, as long as he can keep that aspect of his game going there is nothing to worry about regarding Mo.

      Our home form is very promising, what we need to do now is find a way to carry that same momentum into our away games, if we do that the league is ours!

      Come on redmen!

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      Reply #556: Mar 10, 2019 08:05:28 pm
      Not going to read through the entire thread, but am I right in thinking Virgil played with a knock through most of the match? I know at one point in the first half he was down on his haunches and for a moment they were hurriedly getting Henderson ready. After that I thought his movement was less than ideal, although of course he still put in a shift.

      If I'm right, I only hope he can be ready for Wednesday. I saw Lovren was on the bench but if the above is right,  they didn't feel he could last very long.

      Agree with all who are happy with Lallana playing so well today. I don't know if he'll be available to go from the start Wednesday, but today was his biggest contribution so far this season to the title we are going to win, following so many injury issues.
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      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #557: Mar 10, 2019 08:10:07 pm
      City have Palace away Spurs at home then UTD away three tough games all we can do is win ours and we will be Champions
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      Reply #558: Mar 10, 2019 09:25:41 pm
      Some may like my posts some may hate them we all have our own personal choices but one thing that unites us is wanting LFC to win so for the remainder of this season try to make positive posts …...We Can Do This
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOuT38UOuU8

      Of course we can!
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      Reply #559: Mar 10, 2019 10:26:33 pm
      A much needed win , feared the worst when that useless tw*t Mariner allowed that goal to stand , but we came back well , Salah May not be scoring but he made our first and didn’t stop, still putting in the effort, it will come back ,
      A challenging game in very difficult conditions, well done redmen just keep at it .
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      Reply #560: Mar 10, 2019 10:55:17 pm
      Arsenal did us a small favor today by beating Utd. Utd has now dropped to 5th and Arsenal climbed to 4th while Chelsea is at 6th place, one point behind Utd. Utd will now have to beat city to improve the chances of climbing back to 4th while looking at the remaining fixtures, there are a few banana skins waiting for City. 
      « Last Edit: Mar 10, 2019 11:09:57 pm by redkop63 »
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      Reply #561: Mar 10, 2019 11:00:38 pm
      City have Palace away Spurs at home then UTD away three tough games all we can do is win ours and we will be Champions

      Chelsea and spurs at home are going to be tough. I don’t think we’ll lose just worried about getting a draw.

      Need Klopp to roll the dice in these games and be very attacking.

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      Reply #562: Mar 10, 2019 11:08:39 pm
      Chelsea and spurs at home are going to be tough. I don’t think we’ll lose just worried about getting a draw.

      Need Klopp to roll the dice in these games and be very attacking.



      Chelsea is very organised in their passing and if we look at their offensive build up, Hazard is doing all the running and across the edge of the opposition box and released the ball to others to shoot or he himself unleashed shots from there. If we could close down the space at the arc of our box and gives Hazard no chance to shoot and to rob hazard off possession an go on a counter we stand a very good chance. Chelsea has a particularly slow defence and if we could run behind their back four, they'll be in deep trouble.
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      Reply #563: Mar 11, 2019 01:12:55 am
      Chelsea and spurs at home are going to be tough. I don’t think we’ll lose just worried about getting a draw.

      Need Klopp to roll the dice in these games and be very attacking.

      Agree. Chelsea appears to have reorganized pretty well after the Kepa fiasco and Spurs will likely be in a dogfight for a top 4 spot so they will come in with the need and want to get something out of the game. Poch not being on the bench will be a nice break, however.
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      Reply #564: Mar 11, 2019 07:34:39 am
      Must check the scoreline, did we lose ?

      According to some posters we got slaughtered and will be lucky to avoid relegation.It does not matter how we get 3 points as long as we get them.
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      Reply #565: Mar 11, 2019 09:44:59 am
      Agree. Chelsea appears to have reorganized pretty well after the Kepa fiasco and Spurs will likely be in a dogfight for a top 4 spot so they will come in with the need and want to get something out of the game. Poch not being on the bench will be a nice break, however.

      yes Chelsea are a bit better since they got their arses kicked 6-0 by Citeh, but they are going to have to play a hell of a lot better than against Wolves to beat us at home. Spurs also seem to have lost their way and I'd fancy us to beat them. I'm not saying these 2 games are guaranteed but I definitely fancy us in both of them.
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      Reply #566: Mar 11, 2019 10:22:55 am
      yes Chelsea are a bit better since they got their arses kicked 6-0 by Citeh, but they are going to have to play a hell of a lot better than against Wolves to beat us at home. Spurs also seem to have lost their way and I'd fancy us to beat them. I'm not saying these 2 games are guaranteed but I definitely fancy us in both of them.

      Plus we’re at home which is massive, the crowd should be bang up for this
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      Reply #567: Mar 11, 2019 10:44:18 am
      great win, esp considering ref helped them with 1st goal. ffs.

      chuffed for lallana, played very well.
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      Reply #568: Mar 11, 2019 11:03:36 am
      According to some posters we got slaughtered and will be lucky to avoid relegation.It does not matter how we get 3 points as long as we get them.

      I think it matters to some who never ever enjoy any kind of win. They need to get a life.

      "We conceded two goals. Telltale signs of weakness. Not going to win the league like that. Alison was weak for the first goal. Let alone Matip. Salah misfiring is a worry. Midfield link up was poor. Need a fekir. Naby isn't gonna make it. Adam Lallana, don't count on him delivering consistently. We should be 10 points clear by now."   

      This list goes on. I'd like to add - we should be 5-0 up before we kick off every match. :lmao:
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      Re: Liverpool 4-2 Burnley: In game and Post Match discussion
      Reply #569: Mar 11, 2019 11:14:57 am
      I think it matters to some who never ever enjoy any kind of win. They need to get a life.

      "We conceded two goals. Telltale signs of weakness. Not going to win the league like that. Alison was weak for the first goal. Let alone Matip. Salah misfiring is a worry. Midfield link up was poor. Need a fekir. Naby isn't gonna make it. Adam Lallana, don't count on him delivering consistently. We should be 10 points clear by now."   

      This list goes on. I'd like to add - we should be 5-0 up before we kick off every match. :lmao:

      I burnt my toast this morning and one of my socks is missing. All down to Liverpool being down a point.

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