Pre Match : Liverpool v Spurs : Sunday 31st March : 16.30

Tough game of course. They were the best side to come to Anfield last year, long time since we were outplayed like we were in that second half. They still needed a dodgy pen to get a point though so in that sense I'd say we owe them one at Anfield.

Alisson; TAA, Matip, Van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Gini, Milner; Salah, Firmino, Mane.

Id not be disappointed if we started with this line up.
As for Millie, Gini and Hendo, I agree its a bit of a negative trio to have in midfield, and i'm also not a fan of Hendo. But credit where credit's due. Hendo has turned it on a bit of late. Put in some decent performances, and looking to get the ball forward more, and quicker than he has in the past.
I do have reservations about performances after international breaks though. Whoever plays, just seem to be a bit off key. Don't know what it is, but it keeps recurring, so the best we can hope for is, Jürgen puts his strongest side out, from what he sees in training. Doesnt really matter how good or bad you are, if you're off form, you're off form and thats that until you recover. I just hope we get some fluid flowing footy going, and not the disjointed looking stuff we've seen after previous breaks.
So...... I know who i'd like to start, but not really fussed, as long as we get the three points.  3-1 to the red men. And City gonna draw.

No, it's not like that though. As it goes I am seeing less and less bashing of Hendo and players in general and I haven't seen anyone I don't think saying Klopp needs to go if he doesn't win anything this season.

"This sack talk is always taken out of context, nobody has said that he should be sacked now. If Klopp finishes 5 seasons without a trophy we need to assess our options though." Wonder who posted this
Took me 30 seconds to find this and their are plenty more from the same poster. As far as Hendo is concerned on this page you get "I don't rate Hendo" what the F**k does that mean is Hendo a bad person is his hair upsetting people because anyone in the game who comments on him always gives him the highest praise. Its never a rational comment about his game which is largely dictated by the manager who wants sacking if he doesn't win something this season.Jürgen has a style of play and yet people still comment and completely ignore this and blindly attack players who aren't playing like Pirlo or Messi.

If its a case of not liking tactics or how a player plays within the structure of the team fair enough but it never is its just attack after attack with no real explanation of why " I don't rate Hendo"
We have lost so many quality posters over recent times and when they come back and stick their toe in the water they pretty much disappear again pretty damn quick.

"This sack talk is always taken out of context, nobody has said that he should be sacked now. If Klopp finishes 5 seasons without a trophy we need to assess our options though." Wonder who posted this
Took me 30 seconds to find this and their are plenty more from the same poster. As far as Hendo is concerned on this page you get "I don't rate Hendo" what the f**k does that mean is Hendo a bad person is his hair upsetting people because anyone in the game who comments on him always gives him the highest praise. Its never a rational comment about his game which is largely dictated by the manager who wants sacking if he doesn't win something this season.Jürgen has a style of play and yet people still comment and completely ignore this and blindly attack players who aren't playing like Pirlo or Messi.

If its a case of not liking tactics or how a player plays within the structure of the team fair enough but it never is its just attack after attack with no real explanation of why " I don't rate Hendo"
We have lost so many quality posters over recent times and when they come back and stick their toe in the water they pretty much disappear again pretty damn quick.

So what you’re saying is you have a problem with one poster in particular. Put him on ignore and then stop trying to tell people if they can or can’t have an opinion different to Klopp. Simple really.

Anyone here who thinks they could do a better job than Klopp is deluded, definitely. Everyone’s opinion should be valued exactly the same though; Klopp isn’t perfect and he can get things wrong and I’m sure he’s the first to admit that. It’d be a pretty dull forum if everyone was in agreement, right? I’m a big Klopp fan but there’s no need to be sheep and take his every word like it’s gospel.

I've seen someone post "I don't care what Klopp thinks"
What does that say to you?

And on the subject of "everyone's opinion is equal".
No, they're not, some are clearly bollocks, some are dressed up guesses, hardly any have any factual basis on which to form an opinion.

This is the trouble with internet forums, people think their opinion has value just because it's their opinion.
It's nonsense snowflake thinking.

Anyone can have an opinion, sure, but that doesn't mean I have to value it, and I can also have the opinion that the person is talking sh*te.

Then we have the "Klopp gets things wrong".
this isn't an opinion, it is a definitive statement, and as I've said before, if you don't have all the information Klopp has, how do you know he's made a mistake?
You don't, is the answer, because you can't unless you have the same information as the fella making the decision.

I've seen a lot of people say "Klopp made a mistake", but I've yet to see one of those posters backtrack when it turns out the player was injured, or ill or out of form.

It's all part of the same thing; some people think it's edgy to be hyper critical.
It's not, it's F***ing boring and incredibly pretentious.

No one actually thinks they can do a better job than Klopp (well, maybe Swab does?!), nor do they actually think they can do a better job than Moreno or Migs when disagreeing or criticising. It all stems from Swab who painted this narrative that if you disagree with Klopp, you think you can do better or that you have no right to disagree/criticise because we don't have all the information. He thinks he sits on a pedestal and attacks us for opinions and theories, but ironically, he does the same too. The funny thing is, he is just normal fan like all of us with no inside information or decades of experience in the professional game!

Oh bless, you've still got your arse in an uproar over being proved wrong.

You are a poster who is so F***ing arrogant you re-defined a whole set of different systems as "double pivot" because you couldn't tell the difference between them, and you have the F***ing gall to call out other people 

A fella who quoted Phil F***ing Neville as a football guru.

Jesus christ, you couldn't make this sh*t up. 

Just get the W lads.

Not going to be easy at all. Need someone checking that Eriksen bloke. Cut him out of the game from the off!

Oh bless, you've still got your arse in an uproar over being proved wrong.

You are a poster who is so f**king arrogant you re-defined a whole set of different systems as "double pivot" because you couldn't tell the difference between them, and you have the f**king gall to call out other people 

A fella who quoted Phil f**king Neville as a football guru.

Jesus christ, you couldn't make this sh*t up. 

I like to think me and racerx found a middle ground and both agreed that a double 6 can be considered a double pivot.

2 6's is a defensive posture to primarily cover fullbacks.

A double pivot is a sitter and a DLP or box to box.

Think about what you posted when I asked the difference between a double 6 and the double pivot, then go back to match threads where you talk about the Wijnaldum & Fabinho/ Hendo & Fabinho combo If you can't remember, I will be more than happy to refresh your memory or find the posts you made! Also, ask yourself this, why would Klopp go with a double 6 to primary protect the full backs when 433 is the better option?

And, Swab, remember how you bitched at people when they said Hendo was playing a DM role? Remember how you said players don't have set roles and everyone is so interchangable? Remember how you said Klopp doesn't like a DM , yet later goes out and buys a DM in Fabinho... a player you never seen before and couldn't acknowledge he was a specialist? Remember how you said Hendo would be picked everytime when fit? Remember how you said we don't use a double pivot/double 6? Remember how how... omg, I could keep going on!

As for P.Neville, the footballing guru that showed you we did in fact play with a double 6/double pivot  and a different system which you kept denying (even when I showed you the Klopp interview!). It's obvious for all to see you are still pissed at him schooling you because you keep going on and on and on about him.

Any news on TAA is he expected to be fit for this ?

So what you’re saying is you have a problem with one poster in particular. Put him on ignore and then stop trying to tell people if they can or can’t have an opinion different to Klopp. Simple really.

Exactly - it’s embarrassing going through the forum to find quotes. So who cares if someone wants Klopp sacked after 5 trophiless years. It’s not how I feel but people should be able to voice any opinion they want.

Think the break may have actually done the lads some good for once. Usually it’s a disaster after international break but looks like a clean bill of health

Think the break may have actually done the lads some good for once. Usually it’s a disaster after international break but looks like a clean bill of health

Fingers crossed mate

Gini - Fab - Lallana midfield for me.

The players are not negative, its the tactics given to them by the manager. ;-)

2 of them are predominantly DM's (Milner and Hendo) and for some weird reason Gini also plays super defensive when playing with them, you might be right that it is tactical but against Spurs it would be the wrong tactic, we need to attack them, push them backwards.

Those negative 3 have been an integral part of this team to get us where we are in Europe & the PL..

Not playing as a midfield unit they haven't. They are all good players and very valuable to the team but as a unit they become far too defensive and negative.

I've seen someone post "I don't care what Klopp thinks"
What does that say to you?

And on the subject of "everyone's opinion is equal".
No, they're not, some are clearly bollocks, some are dressed up guesses, hardly any have any factual basis on which to form an opinion.

This is the trouble with internet forums, people think their opinion has value just because it's their opinion.
It's nonsense snowflake thinking.

Anyone can have an opinion, sure, but that doesn't mean I have to value it, and I can also have the opinion that the person is talking sh*te.

Then we have the "Klopp gets things wrong".
this isn't an opinion, it is a definitive statement, and as I've said before, if you don't have all the information Klopp has, how do you know he's made a mistake?
You don't, is the answer, because you can't unless you have the same information as the fella making the decision.

I've seen a lot of people say "Klopp made a mistake", but I've yet to see one of those posters backtrack when it turns out the player was injured, or ill or out of form.

It's all part of the same thing; some people think it's edgy to be hyper critical.
It's not, it's f**king boring and incredibly pretentious.

You are conflating 2 things here, a person's right to have an opinion and how much you value that opinion, they are two completely different things.
Everyone has a right to an opinion and Everyone has a right to agree or disagree with it. What is nasty though is when some people try to shut down someone else's opinion, someone else's voice, to restrict their freedom of speech. That is ultimately the road to tyranny and I see it more and more in society at large and it scares the hell out of me.

“If you are not Jürgen Klopp or don’t agree with all of his decisions, your opinion is invalid.”

unless your name is pep and your the city manager yes. .

At the end of the day people are going to have opinions and that’s great especially on an open forum like this.

Some are much better articulated than others e.g. one person says ‘x is not performing as well as y because you can see the statistics and I’ve seen on the field they have a tendency to do this that or the other’... and another person who has the same opinion on player x just goes ‘he’s sh*te’. The same opinion, one coherently argues, the other lazily put.

While it’s clear I’ve always backed players like Henderson or Lucas back in the day, I’ve always had time for coherent arguments against them that incorporate well thought out opinions, that’s healthy debate which is sadly lacking in the UK currently as we can see with the shambles in Parliament. The ‘he’s sh*te just cos’ argument just doesn’t fly with me at all and I imagine that’s the case for others were it’s not nessesarily the opinion gap that’s the dissernable feature in a post, but instead the way it’s put.

Anyway....

Lets just smash spuds sunday. :-)

Let’s do these cu*ts - no mercy.

Salah hat-trick incoming

Well, I for one am bricking it. Then again, I have been nervous about pretty much every game since the turn of the year.

I have a few too many memories of dropping points against Spurs (i was at White Hart Lane when we somehow decided to play Skrtel at full back, up against Gareth Bale) and i'm still fuming over last season's result against them at Anfield (along with the penalty decisions).

International breaks have not been kind to us this season in that we seem to have been lethargic in every first game back following the break, but on the other hand, Spurs have not been in the best of form. Which obviously means, this will be the game they turn it back on!

I think the likes of Salah who have had a wee mini holiday will be buzzin for this game.

Lets go the RED MEN. !!

Let’s do these cu*ts - no mercy.

Salah hat-trick incoming

You can do the team talk mate because that is exactly the message they should be getting.

Alli and Son versus Alisson - I'll get my coat.