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      Hillsborough 30 years on, and counting.

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      HUYTON RED
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      Re: Hillsborough 30 years on, and counting.
      Reply #50: Apr 17, 2020 11:17:48 pm
      RIP.

      I read a book just after I started supporting LIverpool in 1998. Could someone who is knowledgeable, who really knows about the books written on the tragedy, please PM me? I have some questions as I want to recall the author and title of the book I read. It filled me with a profound sadness as I had just returned from my first trip to the city and to Anfield and I was so smitten with the entire place - then to read the personal accounts of people who were there that day.

      To all of you out there, wherever you are tonight. Be safe.


      Was it The Truth by Prof. P Scraton?
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      Reply #51: Apr 18, 2020 12:16:15 am
      Once sgsin I say Rest in piece 96
      But truthfully, I can never find the words to express what I really feel.
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      Re: Hillsborough 30 years on, and counting.
      Reply #52: Apr 18, 2020 12:44:44 am
      Was it The Truth by Prof. J Scraton?

      Yes
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      Reply #53: Apr 18, 2020 02:30:45 am
      Was it The Truth by Prof. J Scraton?

      So what I know is it was written before 2000. It was full of first-hand accounts and the narrative switched back from person to person going through the sequence of the day's events. One was a man whose son died, and he described how much fun his group had on the way to Sheffield, stopping for a shandy and getting some papers to read about the match. One was Trevor Hicks talking about standing in the less-crowded, adjoining pen and pleading with police officers to do something about what was happening, knowing his two daughters were in there, but a cop told him to shut it (get sad and mad at the same time just typing it). Another was Lee Nicol's mother talking about being in hospital with him afterward and Princess Diana visiting them at his bedside before he died.

      Yet another first-person account was of an older fan who saw the crowding outside the ground and decided to wait to go in, but who remembered from a previous trip that there were pens to each side of the center entrance that would be less crowded. There was also a man who was in the crush and he described what it was like not being able to move and thinking he was dying, including a girl tapping his foot with hers as that is all she could do (that one account is just about the most powerful thing I've ever seen written).

      I'd like to get a copy of the book for my son to read because it was the best thing I"ve seen so far as helping me understand what it was like (as best as someone can who wasn't there). I think it would help him to understand why it is still so important that justice be done.

      Any help is appreciated.
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      Re: Hillsborough 30 years on, and counting.
      Reply #54: Apr 18, 2020 11:04:38 am
      So what I know is it was written before 2000. It was full of first-hand accounts and the narrative switched back from person to person going through the sequence of the day's events. One was a man whose son died, and he described how much fun his group had on the way to Sheffield, stopping for a shandy and getting some papers to read about the match. One was Trevor Hicks talking about standing in the less-crowded, adjoining pen and pleading with police officers to do something about what was happening, knowing his two daughters were in there, but a cop told him to shut it (get sad and mad at the same time just typing it). Another was Lee Nicol's mother talking about being in hospital with him afterward and Princess Diana visiting them at his bedside before he died.

      Yet another first-person account was of an older fan who saw the crowding outside the ground and decided to wait to go in, but who remembered from a previous trip that there were pens to each side of the center entrance that would be less crowded. There was also a man who was in the crush and he described what it was like not being able to move and thinking he was dying, including a girl tapping his foot with hers as that is all she could do (that one account is just about the most powerful thing I've ever seen written).

      I'd like to get a copy of the book for my son to read because it was the best thing I"ve seen so far as helping me understand what it was like (as best as someone can who wasn't there). I think it would help him to understand why it is still so important that justice be done.

      Any help is appreciated.

      Kindle version on amazon. 1.copy on amazon of the book. Have the book myself
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      Re: Hillsborough 30 years on, and counting.
      Reply #55: Apr 18, 2020 02:08:19 pm
      Was it The Truth by Prof. J Scraton?

      I think this is the only book that has ever brought me to tears, reading about the way the families were treated.

      A masterpiece, by Prof Scraton.
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      Reply #56: Apr 18, 2020 02:51:58 pm
      I think this is the only book that has ever brought me to tears, reading about the way the families were treated.

      A masterpiece, by Prof Scraton.

      Yeah got an updated copy around time of 20th anniversary and possibly the hardest book I've read. So many times I literally had to put the book down and go do something else for a bit as it either got me very emotional or very angry.

      Apart from the actual HIP report, it's probably the only other definitive account of the disaster.
      « Last Edit: Apr 18, 2020 03:02:32 pm by HUYTON RED »
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      Reply #57: Apr 18, 2020 03:00:07 pm
      Defo must have book for all of us.I picked it up here again after i lost my original copy,https://www.bookdepository.com/Hillsborough-Truth-Phil-Scraton/9781910948019?ref=grid-view&qid=1587218128282&sr=1-1.They ship to the USA,Robby lad.
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      Re: Hillsborough 30 years on, and counting.
      Reply #58: Apr 18, 2020 04:20:51 pm
      Yeah got an updated copy around time of 20th anniversary and possibly the hardest book I've read. So many times I literally had to put the book down and go do something else for a bit as it either got me very emotional or very angry.

      Apart from the actual HIP report, it's probably the only other definitive account of the disaster.

      Yea definitely a tough read but we'll worth it for anyone who hasn't read it.

      We went to see Phil' lecture in Belfast in 2012, Speaking Truth to Power and was an interesting and emotional account of the fight for justice.

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