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      This team beats the 2005 team
      May 24, 2019 09:36:52 pm
      Just rewatched the Istanbul final, compared to this current team, we were rubbish back then
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      Reply #1: May 24, 2019 10:02:18 pm
      Just rewatched the Istanbul final, compared to this current team, we were rubbish back then

      Nah - what a team and what a performance. Best night ever.
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      Reply #2: May 25, 2019 12:34:03 pm
      Just rewatched the Istanbul final, compared to this current team, we were rubbish back then

      I don't think we were rubbish

      we had a strong core of Alonso, Hamman, Hyypia, Carragher, Gerrard, Finnan, Riise and Garcia. We played against a world class side and we beat them!

      We looked inconsistent in the league because it was Rafa's first season plus Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United were world class sides back then.
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      Reply #3: May 25, 2019 12:49:09 pm
      This day next week the nerves will be seriously jangling :)
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      Reply #4: May 25, 2019 12:51:38 pm
      Just rewatched the Istanbul final, compared to this current team, we were rubbish back then

      I think this team would beat the 2005 team but it wouldn't be a walkover. Dudek, Traore and Baros stand out as weak links that would tip the game in this teams favour. However players like Hyypia, Carragher, Finnan, Luis Garcia (especially in Europe) were outstanding in their day and then Gerrard and Alonso are 2 generational talents, with Gerrard being one of the best centre midfielders of all time.

      To say we were 'rubbish' is ignorant to valiance of that legendary team.
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      Reply #5: May 25, 2019 01:25:56 pm
      I think this team would beat the 2005 team but it wouldn't be a walkover. Dudek, Traore and Baros stand out as weak links that would tip the game in this teams favour. However players like Hyypia, Carragher, Finnan, Luis Garcia (especially in Europe) were outstanding in their day and then Gerrard and Alonso are 2 generational talents, with Gerrard being one of the best centre midfielders of all time.

      To say we were 'rubbish' is ignorant to valiance of that legendary team.

      14 years ago ? That's unbelievable
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      Reply #6: May 25, 2019 01:34:36 pm
      I think this team would beat the 2005 team but it wouldn't be a walkover. Dudek, Traore and Baros stand out as weak links that would tip the game in this teams favour. However players like Hyypia, Carragher, Finnan, Luis Garcia (especially in Europe) were outstanding in their day and then Gerrard and Alonso are 2 generational talents, with Gerrard being one of the best centre midfielders of all time.

      To say we were 'rubbish' is ignorant to valiance of that legendary team.

      This 100% - we had Alonso AND Gerrard - players that would be valued at £150m + in today’s market
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      Reply #7: May 25, 2019 01:38:52 pm
      This 100% - we had Alonso AND Gerrard - players that would be valued at £150m + in today’s market

      Those 2 in the team now and we would win the lot.
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      Reply #8: May 25, 2019 02:39:12 pm
      14 years ago ? That's unbelievable

      seems like yesterday! what a game that was
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      Reply #9: May 25, 2019 03:25:38 pm
      14 years ago ? That's unbelievable

      Crazy isn’t it mate
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      Reply #10: May 25, 2019 04:19:18 pm

      It’s a shame that we were sold to H&G ...we could have built something special under Rafa in the league and Europe on the back of Istanbul..

      Am I right to believe next seasons champions league will be held at the Ataturk again..?
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      Reply #11: May 25, 2019 06:10:07 pm
      It’s a shame that we were sold to H&G ...we could have built something special under Rafa in the league and Europe on the back of Istanbul..

      Am I right to believe next seasons champions league will be held at the Ataturk again..?

      I believe so!

      Will be nice to lift number 7 there!
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      Reply #12: May 25, 2019 07:44:42 pm
      I believe so!

      Will be nice to lift number 7 there!

      Great sentiment let's make sure that we lift number 6 next week !
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      Reply #13: May 25, 2019 08:32:16 pm
      Those 2 in the team now and we would win the lot.

      Sami, Didi John Arne etc it wasn't a bad side at all you could say Dudek was a weak link as was Djimi but both of the proved to be total heroes and forever legends. For 6 mins we were the best team in the world
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      Reply #14: May 25, 2019 09:03:46 pm
      Nah - what a team and what a performance. Best night ever.

      My Fez is already in place next to the TV . Istanbul will never ever be beaten for drama it still feels like yesterday and incredibly it is 14 years ago.
      However we are now on countdown and for completely different reasons this Victory will be the most sweetest of all.
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      Reply #15: May 25, 2019 09:22:31 pm
      Awesome picture on the top left of this tweet. Sandwiched between two of the finest defenders the game has ever known, looking on helplessly. The start of the most miraculous few minutes of our lives!

      https://twitter.com/ThaiLFC/status/1132212026883788800
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      Reply #16: May 25, 2019 09:35:07 pm
      Awesome picture on the top left of this tweet. Sandwiched between two of the finest defenders the game has ever known, looking on helplessly. The start of the most miraculous few minutes of our lives!

      https://twitter.com/ThaiLFC/status/1132212026883788800

      it was like watching your life flash before your eyes for 6 mins. When Alonso had his penalty saved but then scored it was a complete emotional roller coaster
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      Reply #17: May 25, 2019 09:59:53 pm
      it was like watching your life flash before your eyes for 6 mins. When Alonso had his penalty saved but then scored it was a complete emotional roller coaster

      Even when the penalty was saved you felt sure it was going to be in on the rebound.

      Will be in Liverpool for this...but many places hosting formal events have already booked out. How many/are all pubs in the city running a booking system for next Saturday?
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      Reply #18: May 25, 2019 10:00:45 pm
      it was like watching your life flash before your eyes for 6 mins. When Alonso had his penalty saved but then scored it was a complete emotional roller coaster

      Pure shock and adrenaline. I was at university in Southampton watching in a pub with my housemates - non of them Liverpool fans and they were going mental too, the whole pub was.
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      Reply #19: May 25, 2019 11:37:49 pm
      I knew we won it when Dudek made the double save off Shevchenko. As for the 2005 team. I think the team  with Masch, Reina and Torres was better but we never had subs. H&G don't by the club and the Sheik Mahktoum (??)  buys it and different story in terms of the league, sliding doors moment.

      What got me about the team in 2005 campaign was the matches before the final. Juventus at Anfield with LaTallec up front. Mellor etc against Olympiakos. Biscan ? we got some insane results that season.
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      Reply #20: May 25, 2019 11:48:28 pm
      Just rewatched the Istanbul final, compared to this current team, we were rubbish back then

      wow are you sure?, in its day, It was a fantastic team,with a fantastic manager.  How long have you been a fan, or you a another wum,
      Either way, stupid comment.
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      Reply #21: May 26, 2019 12:31:52 am
      wow are you sure?, in its day, It was a fantastic team,with a fantastic manager.  How long have you been a fan, or you a another wum,
      Either way, stupid comment.

      The current team is better in defence and attack, the midfield is possibly slightly weaker now but not by much. Overall I would back our current team to win 9 times out of 10.
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      Reply #22: May 26, 2019 12:41:51 am
      The current team is better in defence and attack, the midfield is possibly slightly weaker now but not by much. Overall I would back our current team to win 9 times out of 10.

      Midfield possibly weaker ?
      Gerrard
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      No one in our current midfield comes close
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      Reply #23: May 26, 2019 12:43:33 am
      wow are you sure?, in its day, It was a fantastic team,with a fantastic manager.  How long have you been a fan, or you a another wum,
      Either way, stupid comment.

      Think it’s a fair comment to be honest. How we managed to beat that Milan team and other teams when we had Dudek, Biscan, Traore, Baros, Mellor, Pongolle, Nunez etc in our team was nothing short of a miracle.

      Back then, sure we had Alonso but he was still very early 20s and nowhere near the player he was a couple of years later, we had a slightly aging Hamman, Carra, Hyypia, a defensively poor Riise at LB, Finnan and Gerrard as the best players. To say we are currently miles better than that team is nothing short of an understatement and so many parts of that team wouldn’t have been so quickly moved on/or out of the team had they been as good as you are maybe suggesting. The team Rafa had then compared to the team he had in 08 was chalk and cheese.

      But that was then and this is now, and now we have probably our strongest team for as long as I can remember. Bring on the Spuds!!!
      « Last Edit: May 26, 2019 12:53:46 am by 7-King Kenny-7 »
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      Reply #24: May 26, 2019 01:10:20 am
      2005 was the best year ever and our campaign was absolutely fantastic but that team had many faults. Dudek wasn't reliable, Traoré was a Championship player at best, Riise was a good left back having to play at left wing, Baros was overhyped due to a good European championship but never actually scored that many, Luis Garcia was a magician on his day but more frequently went missing. Add to this that Kewell started the UCL final despite having contributed nearly nothing in the campaign, that we beat Juventus with the total nobody Le Tallec in the starting lineup and Scott Carson in goal, that Igor Biscan not only played but played well in a couple of games, that Neil Mellor actually scored some important goals, that Vladi Smicer who had been useless all season came on and scored in the final, and all that to me says a lot more about the fantastic manager we had back then than about the quality of the squad, which wasn't anything special. Just look at some of those players careers after LFC. They had just been European champions, and still Baros couldn't do better than, I don't know, Aston Villa. Traoré went to Portsmouth, wasn't it? Smicer to Bordeaux, Biscan to Panathinaikos. Dudek went to warm Real's bench, his career effectively over. Mellor ever even played in the Premier League again? I don't think so. I find it funny when people say Rafa won it with "Houllier's squad" as if that was some sort of nod towards Houllier. I see it the other way around. The squad that Gerard left us was hardly good enough to achieve European qualification, and that weight is on him. Rafa turned them into European champions, and that merit is all his.

      Especially as he beat a side virtually entirely composed of legends and/or world class players in Dida, Cafu, Nesta, Stam, Maldini, Pirlo, Gattuso, Seedorf, Kaká, Shevchenko and Crespo.
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