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      This team beats the 2005 team

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      king kenny
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      Re: This team beats the 2005 team
      Reply #50: May 31, 2019 12:37:12 am
      I think if you put the argument of winning then Taraore gets ahead of Robertson and Diomede gets ahead Mane.  Both aren't fit enough to polish the boots of their current replacements.  For me  I think Carragher was fantastic I'd have him ahead Lovren maybe Matip.  Not sure about Gomez.  At 21 Gomez is better than Carragher at the same age IMO.  I do think Carragher was a very intelligent player but most of his career he played as a proper all out defender not play it from the back so there will have to be assumptions that he will have be able to make them adjustments.  I hope i am not coming across as disprespectful to the legend Carragher because he was a monster of a player that played his whole career under defensive managers.  I think right now he makes it into this team as a player in his peak years but as a 21 year old,  I would take Gomez for this team under the Klopp style of football. 

      Gerrard walks into this team with his name on the team sheet first in my opinion.  Personally I would take Alonso of 2005, but apart from his last season the middle season for me loses out to Wijnaldum of this season.
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      Re: This team beats the 2005 team
      Reply #51: May 31, 2019 10:37:28 am
      just remind us what Virgil has won because at the end of the day if you play for Liverpool you have to win things to be considered a legend. Saying Carra wasn't great is f***in bonkers and actually explains a lot of your posts

      Your post explains a lot about you, and your inability to construct coherent arguments. If you really think Carragher is better than Virgil simply because he won some trophies then that is just absurd, by that token you must think that Phil Neville was a fantastic footballer and that Le Tissier was sh*t.
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      Re: This team beats the 2005 team
      Reply #52: May 31, 2019 10:55:36 am
      just remind us what Virgil has won because at the end of the day if you play for Liverpool you have to win things to be considered a legend. Saying Carra wasn't great is f***in bonkers and actually explains a lot of your posts

      If memory serves me correctly, Carra has won.

      1 x FA youth cup
      2 x FA cups
      1 x League cup
      1 x Europa cup
      1 x champions league
      2 x Eufa Super cup

      Proper LEGEND !
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      Re: This team beats the 2005 team
      Reply #53: May 31, 2019 11:20:04 am
      I think if you put the argument of winning then Taraore gets ahead of Robertson and Diomede gets ahead Mane. 
      Diomede???
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      Re: This team beats the 2005 team
      Reply #54: May 31, 2019 11:30:13 am

      blast from the past that, didn't he leave in 2003?
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      Reply #55: May 31, 2019 12:07:37 pm
      blast from the past that, didn't he leave in 2003?
      Certainly didn't play in the 2005 final!
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      Reply #56: May 31, 2019 12:46:12 pm
      The current team is better in defence and attack, the midfield is possibly slightly weaker now but not by much. Overall I would back our current team to win 9 times out of 10.

      Aye, agree mostly with the exception of Hyppia. He and VVD would make a defense that a rampaging elephants would find it hard to breach.

      Wouldn't dismiss that team of 2005 so easily though, like everyone mentions, Alonso, Stevie, Hyppia, Carra, Hamman...would walk into most teams these days.

      Was in Liverpool for the final in 2005, will never forget the whole night. Tears at half time, city going into meltdown at final whistle, partying until early hours of the morning...unbelievable experience. Best CL final to date, hands down!
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      Re: This team beats the 2005 team
      Reply #57: May 31, 2019 01:04:01 pm
      Reminder of that 2005 team.

      Dudek

      Finnan
      Carra
      Hyypia
      Traore

      Alonso
      Garcia
      Gerrard
      Riise

      Kewell

      Baros

      I'd only take Gerrard,Alonso and Carra from that side. Could make a case for a Hyypia/VVD pairing but I'm going for a Carra/VVD. Finnan might edge out TAA on experience but I've gone for TAA.

      Alisson...TAA Carra VVD Robbo...Hendo,Gerrard,Alonso...Salah,Firmino,Mane.
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      Reply #58: May 31, 2019 01:27:53 pm
      I'd only take Gerrard,Alonso and Carra from that side. Could make a case for a Hyypia/VVD pairing but I'm going for a Carra/VVD. Finnan might edge out TAA on experience but I've gone for TAA.

      Alisson...TAA Carra VVD Robbo...Hendo,Gerrard,Alonso...Salah,Firmino,Mane.
      As classy as he was, I'm not sure Alonso would fit into the current team as I'm not sure he'd have the energy to play in our midfield.
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      Re: This team beats the 2005 team
      Reply #59: May 31, 2019 01:29:03 pm
      Reminder of that 2005 team.

      Dudek

      Finnan
      Carra
      Hyypia
      Traore

      Alonso
      Garcia
      Gerrard
      Riise

      Kewell

      Baros

      I'd only take Gerrard,Alonso and Carra from that side. Could make a case for a Hyypia/VVD pairing but I'm going for a Carra/VVD. Finnan might edge out TAA on experience but I've gone for TAA.

      Alisson...TAA Carra VVD Robbo...Hendo,Gerrard,Alonso...Salah,Firmino,Mane.

      I'd include a young Hyypia, but not the 2005 Hyypia.
      His strength was his positioning in a deep defense, and I think the high line Klopp plays would be a stretch for him at that stage of his career.
      Carragher wasn't the quickest either, but was quick enough I think.
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      Re: This team beats the 2005 team
      Reply #60: May 31, 2019 03:51:11 pm
      blast from the past that, didn't he leave in 2003?


      Ha ha yeah he wasn't in the team.   The funny think is I've used him as example in banter with Utd fans  comparing him to some of their legends in the years gone by.   He did win a World Cup though so not totally out of context.
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      Re: This team beats the 2005 team
      Reply #61: May 31, 2019 03:55:22 pm
      Would take Luis Garcia too, I’d much rather have him as an option off our bench than Sturridge or Lallana. Lallana in the final last year was brutal, it was clear at that point the game was going to go Madrid’s way.
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      Re: This team beats the 2005 team
      Reply #62: May 31, 2019 04:00:38 pm
      Would take Luis Garcia too, I’d much rather have him as an option off our bench than Sturridge or Lallana. Lallana in the final last year was brutal, it was clear at that point the game was going to go Madrid’s way.

      Had Cuntinho stayed, we would have been much better able to absorb the Salah injury as you could still have Phil-Bobby-Sadio up front, but no, he had to be an asshole and snake his way to Barcelona and instead we had to use Lallana as the best option off the bench. F**k that guy.
      king kenny
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      Re: This team beats the 2005 team
      Reply #63: May 31, 2019 04:03:14 pm
      If we are talking about the bench that I would take finnan,  Hamann Garcia and Hyppia,

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